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Title: Mystery Engine
Post by: Robert Zambelli on December 31, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
Found it at a swap meet around 30 years ago, put it in a box, forgot all about it.
Anyone know what it is?
New, never been run or mounted.

I don't think I've posted this before.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: James Lee on December 31, 2022, 02:30:18 PM
Bob
Vivell 'Forty - Niner"  from about 1946

Cool!!
Jim
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Robert Zambelli on December 31, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
Thanks, Jim - I appreciate the reply.

I thought Vivell made only one engine, the 35 (pictured).
The 35 actually looks like a smaller version of the Madewell 49!

Comments?
Bob Z.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: James Lee on January 02, 2023, 11:09:00 AM
 
Bob
Earl Vivell Designed the Madewell 49.   So, yes, it is a 'big' Vivell 35....  And the 49  makes a LOT of noise.   Had one in a Humongous for a long time,  to the annoyance of a lot of OTS stunt judges!!   
thanks
Jim
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: GallopingGhostler on January 02, 2023, 01:02:41 PM
Those photos of the engines are a nice bit of history of early C/L engines. Interesting, the Madewell .35 ignition has a hole in the hollow bolt shaft to run the wire to coil / ignition battery through. Having never experienced it, I think it would be a personal thrill to watch one of these motors in a stunt plane doing its rounds. Matched to the right airframe, flyers must have made them very competitive then.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Robert Zambelli on January 02, 2023, 07:38:26 PM
Here's a video of me flying my spark ignition OK Super 60 powered Viking.
Fuel is gasoline and castor oil.

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxGZa8nk5Lg&t=36s


Bob Z.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Robert Zambelli on January 02, 2023, 07:52:17 PM
My Viking, built around 30 years ago, still flying with the same OK Super 60 on spark ignition.
The only change I made is using 25%, 50-50 castor-synthetic oil instead of straight castor and the addition of a muffler.

Still runs like new, with now close to one thousand flights.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Jim Kraft on January 03, 2023, 02:06:04 PM
Flying ignition engines doubles the fun. I have 6 control line planes with ignition engines and two old free flights with radios and ignition engines.

Fuel cost is next to nothing compared to glow. I have many hours of flying and running them on the bench and they seem to run forever if taken care of.

But then I grew up watching them fly at the park. I was hooked the first time I saw one. They are just so unique. All the different manufacturers had a different idea on how to build an engine.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on January 03, 2023, 02:21:32 PM
Even this dark sider (electric!) is a HUGE fan of Bob Z's Viking with the more-than OK Super 60!  If only if he could eliminate the smell & the "greasy kid-stuff"... (flame suit on)
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: GallopingGhostler on January 03, 2023, 08:25:05 PM
Robert, your Viking flight on ignition was fantastic, I never gave much thought to ignition before. Plus, using lower cost gasoline versus glow fuel, that's a big plus.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Phil Spillman on January 04, 2023, 12:11:29 PM
Hi Bob, It's always a trip down memory lane when you fly that NOISY thing but fun to watch as long as I remember to put my ear plugs in to tone down the racket! I do like Brunhilda though!
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Robert Zambelli on January 07, 2023, 04:35:03 PM
OK, another on for you engine guys!

It's an Ipro-Ikar, whatever the hell that means.

It's .49 CID and glow.

Anyone ever seen or heard of one?

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Crist Rigotti on January 07, 2023, 06:56:27 PM

Bob
Earl Vivell Designed the Madewell 49.   So, yes, it is a 'big' Vivell 35....  And the 49  makes a LOT of noise.   Had one in a Humongous for a long time,  to the annoyance of a lot of OTS stunt judges!!   
thanks
Jim

...and contestants too!
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: James Lee on January 08, 2023, 10:35:35 AM
Crist
I think You are just jealous!!   ;-)
Jim
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on January 08, 2023, 12:28:35 PM
 /DV
...and contestants too!

Crist, I can't hear you.  Must be Jim Lee is flying his Madewell 49, or his Fox 59, or his...
Title: Re: Mystery Engine
Post by: James Lee on January 08, 2023, 01:26:13 PM
Dennis
It is an Atwood Super Champion in a Don Still 'Victory'....     And the Sparker Atwood in the  Go Devil     #^ #^ #^ ~^ LL~ LL~ LL~
Jim