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Title: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 03, 2013, 08:00:49 PM
I bought a new camera today, a good excuse to try it out on a nice day.   Norm Whittle designed this model a few years ago as an IC, a piped Magnum .36 and it flew great.  Pete Peterson has since built one.  Norm converted his to electric
power and drew up a nice set of plans, being a straight wing is a simple build.

Here are some specifics:

Starfinder, approx 650 sq. in. and 58 oz. (for now).

Power is E-Flite Power 25, Castle Creations 50 Ice Lite esc. and Hubin FM-9R timer.  Prop is APC 12 X 6 for starters.

Battery is Thunderpower 5S 2700 ProLite

I hope to get some flights in the next week or so.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 03, 2013, 08:01:34 PM
Another picture
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Post by: Mike Haverly on March 03, 2013, 08:02:05 PM
One more
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Post by: George Grossardt on March 03, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
What a great looking plane.  Love the Chipmunk paint scheme.  Can't wait to hear the flight report.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: RC Storick on March 03, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
I bought a new camera today, a good excuse to try it out on a nice day.   Norm Whittle designed this model a few years ago as an IC, a piped Magnum .36 and it flew great.  Pete Peterson has since built one.  Norm converted his to electric
power and drew up a nice set of plans, being a straight wing is a simple build.

Here are some specifics:

Starfinder, approx 650 sq. in. and 58 oz. (for now).

Power is E-Flite Power 25, Castle Creations 50 Ice Lite esc. and Hubin FM-9R timer.  Prop is APC 12 X 6 for starters.

Battery is Thunderpower 5S 2700 ProLite

I hope to get some flights in the next week or so.


Great job!
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Bob Hudak on March 03, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Outstanding!
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Post by: Dan McEntee on March 03, 2013, 08:32:25 PM
   Very Nice! Should present very well. Are the plans available?
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 03, 2013, 08:37:45 PM
I'll get in touch with Norm, it is his design.  Pat Johnston has a file for the ribs to be laser cut, which I used.  It is actually designed for wing mounted gear, I chose to use CF fuse mounted gear mostly because I had a set.
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Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on March 03, 2013, 09:03:22 PM
Really, really nice! H^^
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Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 03, 2013, 10:48:54 PM
Looks great Mike,, see you soon at a contest near YOU
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Post by: wwwarbird on March 03, 2013, 10:53:18 PM

 Sweet! y1
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Post by: Steve Helmick on March 03, 2013, 11:37:52 PM
Looks good, Mike! Let me know when you want a stooge.  :-\ Steve
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Post by: Larry Fruits on March 04, 2013, 01:01:00 AM
Very stunning Mike. An outstanding job.

 Larry Fruits
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Post by: Dan Bregar on March 04, 2013, 04:03:57 AM
Beautiful !    #^
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Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 04, 2013, 05:35:03 AM
Gorgeous!
Mike, could you please post a pic of the nose showing how you hold the battery, etc?
It looks so "clean", I 'd like to have a better look if it's OK with you H^^

Marcus
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 04, 2013, 06:09:41 AM
MIke great looking airplane, just like all of your efforts..Top Notch.

Now, what kind of camera did you get?
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Bill Little on March 04, 2013, 07:35:13 AM
Brother Mike,

That looks really awesome.  I cannot push myself to put that good a finish on a profile!  Looks nice and I am sure it will fly great!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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Post by: john e. holliday on March 04, 2013, 08:04:57 AM
Another great looking plane.
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Post by: Avaiojet on March 04, 2013, 08:51:28 AM
Mike,

Impressive!

Great looking model!!

Double outstanding!

Charles

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Post by: Randy Powell on March 04, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
So, Pete gave you the plans? He, he. Looks very good, Mike.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Derek Barry on March 04, 2013, 10:29:02 AM
Looks GREAT Mike!!

Derek
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 04, 2013, 10:49:02 AM
Marcus, here are a couple of pictures of how things hook up.  I like things as simple as possible.

Tom, I bought an inexpensive Canon, less than $200.00 but it has some pretty nice features.

Bill, I can't bring myself to bring any less than at least a reasonable effort to the flying field.  In this case it was good practice for my new buffer and more experience with my vinyl cutter.  No, there are no "stickers", that is what I call vinyl  pretending to be "decals".  I made a paint mask for every detail, including the canopy trim.  Kinda fun actually.  I plan to do a product review for Stunt News on the cutter.

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: keith varley on March 04, 2013, 11:06:13 AM
Well MIke , that's really something great.I might as well just have the pilots choice award made with your name on it this year.Keith
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 04, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
Thanks Mike.

Really neat installation, love it!!!
Congrats on the great ship.

Marcus
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 04, 2013, 12:04:39 PM
Bill, I can't bring myself to bring any less than at least a reasonable effort to the flying field.  In this case it was good practice for my new buffer and more experience with my vinyl cutter.  No, there are no "stickers", that is what I call vinyl  pretending to be "decals".  I made a paint mask for every detail, including the canopy trim.  Kinda fun actually.  I plan to do a product review for Stunt News on the cutter.

Thanks everyone.
.
Mike,
We talked before, I need to upgrade my cutter,, which software is your cutter running?
I like the new bird, thanks for sharing
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 04, 2013, 12:31:13 PM
Mark, my cutter is most happy with a .DXF but the easiest way for me is Corel.  I can copy and paste directly, but I have to make sure everthing is converted to curves and grouped.  The software that comes with the machine is kinda stupid, Corel is vector and transfers easily. Also, it will open Autocad files, very useful.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 04, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
so you can "print" right from Autocad?
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Post by: Dennis Adamisin on March 04, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
Tremendous effort, beautiful install.  Birds like this really blur the line between Profiles and full fuse...
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Bill Little on March 04, 2013, 04:12:30 PM
Mark, my cutter is most happy with a .DXF but the easiest way for me is Corel.  I can copy and paste directly, but I have to make sure everthing is converted to curves and grouped.  The software that comes with the machine is kinda stupid, Corel is vector and transfers easily. Also, it will open Autocad files, very useful.

HI Mike,

First, I usually do a pretty decent job on finishing even my profiles.  But, yours is exceptionally nice. ;D

Second, I have worked in coreldraw for quite a while now, does it actually cross over to CAD? (I do know it is vector based, not raster)

Thanks!
Bill
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 04, 2013, 05:11:54 PM
Mark, my machine will import from Corel but I've had problems with the transport from time to time.  I found it easier to just copy and paste.  Sometimes it gets confused with open geometry so I make sure everything is closed, could be something I'm doing too.  Still a lot to learn.

Bill I wouldn't say it crosses over to cad, but I can pick dimensions and move things around.  It is not a true CAD in the, actual "drafting" sense but it seems to open autocad files.  I'm sure you know more about it than I do.  The software that came with the plotter/cutter is limited when it comes to applying any personal touches to a design.  It will do basic shapes and quite a few different fonts they want you to buy more expensive software to to do anything extra.  Corel made a lot more sense, more versatile.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Crist Rigotti on March 04, 2013, 05:49:50 PM
Nice, Mike, very nice.
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Post by: Gene O'Keefe on March 04, 2013, 06:25:25 PM
I'm very impressed...beautiful aircraft !
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Post by: Jim Kraft on March 04, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
Just superb Mike. Love that color scheme.
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Post by: Paul Taylor on March 04, 2013, 07:18:54 PM
Wow!
Very Kewl.
You just raised the bar for profiles.  y1
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Bob Kruger on March 04, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
HI Mike,

First, I usually do a pretty decent job on finishing even my profiles.  But, yours is exceptionally nice. ;D

Second, I have worked in coreldraw for quite a while now, does it actually cross over to CAD? (I do know it is vector based, not raster)

Thanks!
Bill

Bill;

Corel files are vector based not raster based, so Corel will allow you to save to either .dxf or .dwg format, and that is the format native to Autocad and its derivatives.   

The results can still be a little "jervous and nerky".  So, finishing the conversion into something useable and editable in Autocad sometimes requires some third party LISP programs or other "creative approaches".

For example, some of the curves created in Corel would not always work some CNC based machines.  So, for something done in Corel, we had to convert it to a .dxf file.  That would take everything back to simple curves, arcs, lines, polylines, etc.  Then the CNC could handle the file and make the cut.

Walt Umland's laser cutter seems to handle everything, including splines.  Things develop with time.

Bob
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 04, 2013, 11:27:43 PM
Bob, you are correct (of course) Corel will save as a DXF, DWG and many others.  I tried both and imported to my machine and got bad results.  For some reason, the machine makes some of the curve facetted.  Cutting and pasting seemed to eliminate that particular problem.  Like I said, it could very well be something I'm doing.  I had the same problems with some of CNC programs when I was still working in a machine shop.  As it turned out in that case it was usually a programming error, or a post process problem.
Title: Re: My new profile, airplane that is
Post by: SteveMoon on March 05, 2013, 03:10:14 AM
Great looking plane!

Steve