Well it looks like I wont be going to scale NATS this year. I cant afford the entry this year. All because of having to go to Indy 2 times, Once to judge stunt appearance and once for scale. I just cant swing the extra cost of the $70.00 entry fee and extra hotel fees. I might have been able to do it if they were together as it always has been. It seems to me rather outrageous.
Robert,
What would be the total cost for that stay and participation at the NATS?
I would chip in, bet others would also.
Charles
Entry and stay around 300.00
Well it looks like I wont be going to scale NATS this year. I cant afford the entry this year. All because of having to go to Indy 2 times, Once to judge stunt appearance and once for scale. I just cant swing the extra cost of the $70.00 entry fee and extra hotel fees. I might have been able to do it if they were together as it always has been. It seems to me rather outrageous.
The scale powers that be moved their events earlier because of overfly complaints by the CL guys.
Well I didn't expect any support and I am glad some have shown appreciation if you choose to help me fund my scale entry you can do so here http://stunthanger.com/smf/paypal/
They have damn near a mile in which to maneuver, and yet time and again, they were out on the far side of the L-pad - DURING TOP 20 DAY. RC should *never, ever* overfly other people, but doing from carelessness and/or incompetence during a national championship event is beyond the pale.
It wasn't the distraction, although that was bad, the overflights (many directly over the heads of 100 spectators and competitors, time and again), but the safety issue. We know they can't fly worth a damn, and a fair number will crash, so please crash them into an empty field, note into a crowd.
Never mind that they eventually crashed, exactly as predicted for 45 minutes, right in the middle of the road between the L-pad and the farmhouse, a foot in front of a passing truck. I predicted it, Brenda tried to stop it, and yet, right in the middle of my vertical 8, at about 45 degrees (maybe 1/2 mile on the wrong side of the L-pad), I see some RC scale plane. Didn't effect anything and it was the high combined score for Top 20 day, but it's stunningly dangerous.
They were told repeatedly to stay on their own side of the road, which gives them about half the entire site over which to crash and burn. But they were completely incapable and there was NO sanction for violaters. We were close to going to Greg to have them DQed for safety code violations.
RC guys need to learn to fly, if they can't, stay home.
Brett
They have damn near a mile in which to maneuver, and yet time and again, they were out on the far side of the L-pad - DURING TOP 20 DAY. RC should *never, ever* overfly other people, but doing from carelessness and/or incompetence during a national championship event is beyond the pale.
It wasn't the distraction, although that was bad, the overflights (many directly over the heads of 100 spectators and competitors, time and again), but the safety issue. We know they can't fly worth a damn, and a fair number will crash, so please crash them into an empty field, note into a crowd.
Never mind that they eventually crashed, exactly as predicted for 45 minutes, right in the middle of the road between the L-pad and the farmhouse, a foot in front of a passing truck. I predicted it, Brenda tried to stop it, and yet, right in the middle of my vertical 8, at about 45 degrees (maybe 1/2 mile on the wrong side of the L-pad), I see some RC scale plane. Didn't effect anything and it was the high combined score for Top 20 day, but it's stunningly dangerous.
They were told repeatedly to stay on their own side of the road, which gives them about half the entire site over which to crash and burn. But they were completely incapable and there was NO sanction for violaters. We were close to going to Greg to have them DQed for safety code violations.
RC guys need to learn to fly, if they can't, stay home.
Brett
Though I may have misunderstood, one of the C/L FLYING judges told me that at least a year or two ago they were using the same STATIC judges for both to find the best qualified judges. If so then I guess that's why they took the C/L event with them during our Nats week. A shame. It's always been a highlight to go watch and I had been considering entering myself down the road as an add on event but now I doubt I'll make two trips to Muncie over it.as a judge for Scale,, ( NOT at the NATS just to be clear) I almost think the best judges are ones who konw nothing about airplanes, becuase the basis for judging is not knowledge, its "look at the pictures and documentation provided with the model, how close does the model match the documentation"
Dave
And all this comes off of Sparkys original post, "My Nats scale entry". That is one good looking scale aircraft Robert, can't wait to see it. Any help I can offer don't hesitate to call.
Blessing
Allen
As both a commercialy licensed pilot and a scale judge at the nats, I feel knowledge is essential to being a good judge. How else are you going to accurately judge the flying part? That is where the boys are seperated from the men. Does a Cub fly that fast, ever? Or can a Buster actually do a lazy eight? Or....? there are so many uninformed as to which flying manuevors should be used as options that a good working knowledge of what any airplane can and CANNOT do is a real plus, at least in my opinion and experience. Just my two cents worth.
Though I may have misunderstood, one of the C/L FLYING judges told me that at least a year or two ago they were using the same STATIC judges for both to find the best qualified judges. If so then I guess that's why they took the C/L event with them during our Nats week. A shame. It's always been a highlight to go watch and I had been considering entering myself down the road as an add on event but now I doubt I'll make two trips to Muncie over it.
Dave
As both a commercialy licensed pilot and a scale judge at the nats, I feel knowledge is essential to being a good judge. How else are you going to accurately judge the flying part? That is where the boys are seperated from the men. Does a Cub fly that fast, ever? Or can a Buster actually do a lazy eight? Or....? there are so many uninformed as to which flying manuevors should be used as options that a good working knowledge of what any airplane can and CANNOT do is a real plus, at least in my opinion and experience. Just my two cents worth.I must retract part of what I said, I was more thinking in terms of static judging,, as to flight judging, most certainly knowing that a Piper cub will not do a round loop ( just a random example) is important,, but for static, you ONLY judge based upon the provided documentation,, using personal knowledge goes outside the parameters outlined for judging,, or at least that is how I read the rules,,,
Sparky, what is the status? Did you get enough to go?
I have entered and plan on going. I thank everyone for the support. I am a little short yet but I should be able to swing it.
Sparky, has the goal been met yet? H^^
I know you dont want to Sparky, but that prop really destroys the illusion, I would really really consider carving a scale prop for it,, your going, you may as well maximize your chances,, its a great build and deserves to have a great shot
Robert,
Congratulations!
There are some hidden expenses. You do have to eat and drink. Correct?
So, I hope contributions still flow in, and I'm sure they will.
Don't forget, AMA numbers for anyone who contributes. Anyone.
I would like to see this as an annual event/fundraiser. Our payback for Robert's efforts.
And it's really not much of a payback when you think about it.
"Get Robert to the NATS!"
Charles