Author Topic: Moving to Tulsa, could use some help (Read 2177 times)

bruce malm · « **on:** July 09, 2008, 11:09:38 AM »

Teena and I are pushing to move to Tulsa by early next year. There is one home in Chelsea we are looking at. If anyone might have the time and would be willing to help me out with information on this area or maybe even looking at this home or maybe some others, I would really appreciate it. I spoke to Bob Reeves when we were looking out in Tulsa last year. Bob , I don't know if I can find your PH #. If anyone is willing to help, please e-mail me or give me a call. Cell # (916) 257-7216, Home (530) 677-9061. I will of course be happy to buy you a tank of gas, etc. to help pay the freight, and of course take you out to dinner. This particular house looks like it would let me put in the circles and runway I must have. It is only ten acres , but looks fairly open.

Thank you to anyone who could provide assistance.

Bruce and Teena Malm, currently in Rescue, CA.

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:14:36 PM »

Hi Bruce,

Would sure think you could find what you are looking for closer to Tulsa than Chelsea but I haven't been looking

Drop me an email with the details and I'll see what we can do..

Bob

Randy Powell · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:05:30 PM »

Bruce,

I can tell you that it's flat. Of course, that is most of Oklahoma (my Dad lives in Oklahoma City).

EddyR · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:38:40 PM »

Bruce Contact a Realtor in the area. Give them the area and info and they will look in the local MLS and send you all the info no charge. I am a retired Realtor and did that for years. Many properties never have signs but can be found through a Realtor.You can find them on the internet.
Ed

walter weatherford · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2008, 07:21:36 AM »

The Tulsa area is not necessarily flat, everyone has heard of the Tulsa Mountains. News recently stated in Tulsa and surrounding area. $300k-$500k housers are selling slower than normal, lesser priced houses are selling well. Compared to California, our housing is cheap.

The Tulsa Mountains are older than the Himalayan Mountains, only they have weathered to the point where the roots are all that is left and they are no longer visible. Geologists know they are here however.

Hothandle

catdaddy · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2008, 09:27:25 AM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 09, 2008, 03:05:30 PM

Bruce,

I can tell you that it's flat. Of course, that is most of Oklahoma (my Dad lives in Oklahoma City).

Not exactly correct. Maybe a third of Oklahoma could be considered "Flat". From OKC to the west, but the Eastern half of the Sooner state has small mountains and large pine trees. It is home to the only mountain range in the U.S. that runs East to West, the Ouachitas which were once as tall as the Rockies. Lumber is big in far southeast Oklahoma. They may not be the Rockies but Oklahoma is home to 7 minor mountain ranges from the Southwest, Southeast and Northeast. They are Arbuckle, Glass, Kiamichi, Boston, Ouachita, Ozarks, and Wichita.

There are also lots of hills. I live north of Tulsa amoung the Osage Hills, there are the Antelope Hills in Roger Mills County, Oklahoma. They are a series of low hills in the bend of the Canadian River. The highest peak has an elevation of 2585 feet. They were a major landmark for the Plains Indians and travelers on what is now the western plains of Oklahoma. The hills are on the National Register of Historic Places. The Red Hills are a grouping of large red colored hills in south Kansas and north west Oklahoma. They are also referred to as the Gypsum or "Gyp" Hills, especially in Oklahoma, after the mineral capping this series of erosional mesas and escarpments. They are part of the Permian Redbeds region in Oklahoma and the Red Hills Prairie region in Kansas. The Red Hills have large vistas and some small steep canyons. The highest elevations reached in the range are on Twin Hills (2,708 feet (825 m)) and Table Mesa (2,643 feet (806 m). The world's highest hill, Cavanal (elevation 1,999 ft. above sea level) is located just west of Poteau in LeFlore County.

With 200 man-made lakes, Oklahoma has more man-made lakes than any other state and boasts over one million surface-acres of water and 2,000 more miles (3,200 km) of shoreline than the Atlantic and Gulf coasts combined. Lake Eufaula is the largest lake in the state, covering 102,000 surface acres. I mention the lakes because almost everyone of our man made lakes are surrounded by hills and small mountains.

Oklahoma has some salt flats that start just west of Ponca City and Enid and stretch through the panhandle but don't get the impression that most of Oklahoma is anything like Kansas, which is definetly flat.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:06:33 AM »

Rick,

It's a matter of perspective, I guess. I live on the border of Kitsap and North Mason counties between the Olympic Mountains and Cascade Mountains. I've been all over Oklahoma and to me, it's a pool table. But as I say, it's a matter of perspective.

Tulsa has what I would see as low, rolling hills at best. But hey, to each his own. Everybody has to live someplace.

Below is what I see at home.

Just One-eye · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:22:27 AM »

Yup. Perspective! I grew up within sight of snow-capped mountains, my kids spent all their lives in either southest Texas, or right here in San Antonio. One day when the boys were about nine and ten, they came home covered in fresh topsoil, gaily speaking of playing on a "hill".

It seems that the Bellaire Parks people were going to do some landscaping, and bought a couple of truckloads of dirt to do it with. To kids having seen only a few flattened rolls of low hills between San Antonio and Houston, a six foot tall pile of dirt was a "hill".

catdaddy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:28:49 AM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 10, 2008, 10:06:33 AM

Rick,

It's a matter of perspective, I guess. I live on the border of Kitsap and North Mason counties between the Olympic Mountains and Cascade Mountains. I've been all over Oklahoma and to me, it's a pool table. But as I say, it's a matter of perspective.

Tulsa has what I would see as low, rolling hills at best. But hey, to each his own. Everybody has to live someplace.

Below is what I see at home.

Randy,
If you want to describe Oklahoma as a pool table that's certainly your right. If that is your perspective again I can't fault you for that. However, I've been all over this planet, from Iceland to the Caribbean from Saudi Arabia to Spokane from Miami to Fairbanks and Oklahoma doesn't even come close to being flat, that's just my perspective.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:11:46 AM »

Well, I'm not going to get into a my place is better than your place arguement. But I will say, it's a comparitive issue. Compared to a place like this, Oklahoma is flat. Granted, it has areas that aren't. Just like water. compared to hear, it's dry, but it's a relative issue. there are a lot of manmade lakes there. There are literally thousnds of lakes and many, many humdreds of miles of shoreline here. But then, it rain incessantly here which is why it's basically a green environment compared to Oklahoma that is not.

On the other hand, maybe I'm just mad at Clay Bennett.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »

Catdaddy, Randy and all, I have driven across a lot of this great country called the United States of America. While in the Tri-Cities area for the NATS, the first one in that area I almost fell in love with it. Drove across parts of Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, Oregon and into Washington state. Seen flat lands, hills and mountains in almost every one of them. The one part of the country I have ready made my mind up on was Florida the southern half. Too humid and hot in February. The northeast is too crowded. The states north of me have great building weather if your shop is equiped for it. The states south of me don't have long enough building weather. But, all in all I think if I could have my way it would be to Tuscon Arizona. They have flat lands and mountains. A sign I read at one of the rest stops described the mountains as islands in the desert. Anyway every has their choice of where to live and why. Lets keep having fun, DOC Holliday

PS:Have not been to California yet. jeh

catdaddy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2008, 12:27:19 PM »

I wasn't trying to start an argument for christ sake. I repect Randy, but I felt his discription of Oklahoma was misleading that's all. I tried to point out some facts about the geography/topography of Oklahoma. The facts say Oklahoma is not flat, pure and simple. Just as the facts say Washington has lots of rain and big mountains, but even that doesn't begin to describe the whole state. It's much different around Spokane for instance. Facts is Facts, they have nothing to do with perceptions. People all to often let perceptions confuse the facts.

Truth be known I'd love to live in Spokane, you can have Seattle though, never did like that place.

oh yeah, Basketball sucks anyway, don't worry the Sonics won't be any better here

Photo of my better half in the Ouachita Mt's I still love her even though she went to Oklahoma State and U of Texas as well Arghhh.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:37:26 PM »

If you really want to see flat, bare country, check out the Texas Panhandle, esp. around Amarillo. At night you can see the lights on the water towers of every little town within 50 miles. Standing on the ground, not from a high-rise. And if a tree happens to grow there, the locals will soon cut it down 'cause "it gets in the way of the view."

Great place for claustrophobics, you can really stretch out and relax. that's part of what I miss about west OK. these hills and big trees sorta close in on me here in MN!

Keith Spriggs · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:41:15 PM »

Kansas flat? What about Mt. Sunflower elev. 4039

I have seen scenes of equal beauty in every state I have been in. Here is a picture of the Flint Hills in Kansas.

Here is Oklahoma just south of the place the Kansas picture was taken.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:22:11 PM »

Yea, no real argument. I spent a lot of time in Oklahoma, mostly around Oklahoma City but I've seen the whole state. When I was in college, I was on the track team and saw much of the country and others as well. Every place has their advantages and drawbacks. It's green here and the scenery is beautiful, but we get rain. A lot of rain. More rain than you would believe possible. This week it's 75 degrees and sunny. And of course, it's beautiful. You can see a mile and some of the overlooks are stunning. But in January, it can be a depressing place. Oklahoma seems flat to me. Granted, it has rolling hills, but as I say, it's a matter of perception.

Doc is right, I have no interest in living in Seattle. It's an odd place. Given a choice, I think I'd move to Oregon around Salem. Same scenery, a bit warmer and somewhat less rain in the winter and better politics. Tucson is wonderful about 8 months a year, it's the other 4 that are the killer. Nowhere is perfect, as far as I can tell. Some are better than others and most have something to recommend them. (though a lot of Eastern Oregon you can keep).

So no argument. The folks that live in Oklahoma obviously like it. It's an interesting place.

dave shirley jr · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:26:22 PM »

Last I heard,
Oklahoma is OK!!!
sorry i couldn't resist

Randy Powell · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:31:53 PM »

Dave,

And Idaho has Famous Potatoes. (though Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon grow more potatoes)

dave shirley jr · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2008, 04:00:53 PM »

Yeah,Yeah, and everyone in california lives on the beach and surfs.
well everyone but me anyway
hope your felling well soon randy
if it was a hisnia i know how that feels
Dave jr.

EddyR · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2008, 11:03:22 AM »

I lived in Florida for 30 Years and the highest point there is 345 ft. Now live in west central NC and we have mountains 75 driving miles away and the ocean 200 driving miles away.People around here think it is a big deal to go to the ocean for the weekend but it has no appeal for me as I lived on the Gulf for 30 years.We can fly and "ride my bike "all year here and isn't that what this forum is all about.
EddyR

bruce malm · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2008, 12:13:13 PM »

Update on Tulsa Move.

Teena and I will be flying out to Tulsa on July 23 rd to look at homes and probably purchase one with actual moving date to be early 2009 with some trips in between. I have spoken to Bob Reeves a little bit but have not sent a return e-mail to De Hill. Looks like Saturday will be pretty open as the
Realtor has a prior commitment. I plan on getting to the Gluedobbers sight on Saturday or Sunday, so hope to see everyone there. Please have a Club application with you and I'll bring my checkbook, IF you will let me join your club?

Bruce Malm AMA 27695 ?/ Wackydaddy

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2008, 08:16:31 AM »

Hi Bruce,

Well of course you are welcome.. Looking forward to meeting you.

Bob