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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Shorts,David on June 19, 2023, 11:04:31 AM
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Hi all, I've written several pieces titled "From the History Books" for the Pampa newsletter. This time I'm doing my research on stunt hanger. I'm looking for some photos and/or information on unusual planes that COMPETED in stunt events. If you have a photo, I'll give you credit if you give permission to publish it.
Example - Windy's Sweeper 1200
Paul's b-17. I could use a photo with permission
What's the smallest plane someone has entered a contest with?
Thanks
David
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How's this for wild? Pusher canard electric flapped stunter, that actually competed in a well-known West Coast event and beat out conventional stunters!
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Bob Harness electric Push-me-Pull-me “Two Bits”
May 2013
Knights of the Round Circle club
Whittier Narrows field
Bob Palmer Memorial CL Stunt Contest
David I can email a link to the Flickr album with a dozen full-size photos IF it’s unusual enough.
Paul
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Was to have competed last week in the 2023 Gieseke Open but family issues prevented it. Will fly in 2023 Southwesterns. Not even close to the most unusual, just unusual.
Ken
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Smallest: Warren Walker’s Cox Tee Dee .010 powered Ringmaster. Pat King sells a kit that is advertised to have a 17” wingspan, but as you can see from the wineglass (for scale Lol!) the one in the picture is much smaller than 17”.
Paul
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Looked through Elwyn Aid’s facebook pictures he posted over there years and found these. Here are a couple unusual ones. The first one is a Flying Star designed by Don Yearout. Second one is an Air Trails flying wing
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Was to have competed last week in the 2013 Gieseke Open but family issues prevented it. Will fly in 2013 Southwesterns. Not even close to the most unusual, just unusual.
Ken
Ken,
When you're finished with the time machine can I borrow it? There's a couple of contests in the 90's that I would like to go to.
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Ken,
When you're finished with the time machine can I borrow it? There's a couple of contests in the 90's that I would like to go to.
They wanted unusual, gotta admit that is unusual. LL~
Ken
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You will never beat Jim Sumner's creations.
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You will never beat Jim Sumner's creations.
How true - only proving that there's a fine line between genius and insanity!!!!
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Smallest: Warren Walker’s Cox Tee Dee .010 powered Ringmaster. Pat King sells a kit that is advertised to have a 17” wingspan, but as you can see from the wineglass (for scale Lol!) the one in the picture is much smaller than 17”.
Paul
Maybe that is a Dean Martin wine glass and the WS is actually 42"! LL~ LL~ LL~
Jerry
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Around twenty years ago, I acquired and restored the Sweeper.
Anyone want to see some photos?
Bob Z.
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I would appreciate seeing a picture Bob.
Thanks
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OK, here's the story.
When I was given the Sweeper, it just needed some TLC, not really a restoration.
The plane was rescued from a basement. It was totally covered in about an eighth of an inch of dirt and grime.
Took me a few hours just to clean it.
The engine was seized, due to a piece of metal wedged between the piston and liner. I installed a new engine that I just happened to have.
The tires were totally deteriorated - the rubber was all rotted.
It had no tank.
Some of the hinges were loose.
So, I made everything right and we test flew it. Although a handful, performed beautifully.
Here are a few photos.
The young fellow holding it is John and Buzz's late grandson, Alex.
The Sweeper is hanging on my kitchen wall - compare it to the Nobler!
Comments welcome.
Bob Z.
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Didn't one of the Adamisin's fly a stunter with a canard and conventional tail at the '86 NATS? Seems like it was yellow..... Also, didn't people try a freewheeling counter-rotating behind the "regular" prop?
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..... Also, didn't people try a freewheeling counter-rotating behind the "regular" prop?
Well, one person did. I would have to go Stunt News to find the year Randy Smith did that. Could have been 1994 or earlier.
Keith
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Didn't one of the Adamisin's fly a stunter with a canard and conventional tail at the '86 NATS? Seems like it was yellow.....
I seem to recall an unusual Adamisin design.... Quite likely, there's photos in some old thread here.
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The contenders so far, above, are indeed curious and fascinating. Here is an unusual stunter ( Courtesy of Keith Trostle) that I think deserves a place amongst them from LittleOle NZ . It won at the NATS in 1952. It is called a Vampire. Looks like it would hang off the prop pretty much anywhere in the dome. Powered by a Frog 500 ( can't remember if it's 1 or 2 g's)
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The contenders so far, above, are indeed curious and fascinating. Here is an unusual stunter ( Courtesy of Keith Trostle) that I think deserves a place amongst them from LittleOle NZ . It won at the NATS in 1952. It is called a Vampire. Looks like it would hang off the prop pretty much anywhere in the dome. Powered by a Frog 500 ( can't remember if it's 1 or 2 g's)
Is that a pully elevator horn?
Ken
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Bob Harness electric Push-me-Pull-me “Two Bits”
May 2013
Knights of the Round Circle club
Whittier Narrows field
Bob Palmer Memorial CL Stunt Contest
David I can email a link to the Flickr album with a dozen full-size photos IF it’s unusual enough.
Paul
Two bits is a great one. A good photo would be nice.
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Looked through Elwyn Aid’s facebook pictures he posted over there years and found these. Here are a couple unusual ones. The first one is a Flying Star designed by Don Yearout. Second one is an Air Trails flying wing
That's right. I forgot about the flying star. He brought it to vsc one year before I started. The other one I don't know.
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You will never beat Jim Sumner's creations.
Okay, I'm not familiar with Jim summers creations. Any pics or detail?
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I have a couple...
The first photo shows the prototype Occam's Razor canard. It was a smallish electric powered sub-version of my moderately successful Klingon canard. More may follow...
The second photo is of my Second Wind twin. Not a too unusual layout, but it had the distinction of being one of the first two electric powered, retract-equipped twins to ever fly at the Nats. Buddy Wieder's Ryan's Evil Twin ship was the other one, and that one is now in the AMA museum! A year later Rick Huff flew a Pathfinder Profile electric twin that was also fitted with retracts.
Later - Bob Hunt
That Klingon canard looks great.
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OK, here's the story.
When I was given the Sweeper, it just needed some TLC, not really a restoration.
The plane was rescued from a basement. It was totally covered in about an eighth of an inch of dirt and grime.
Took me a few hours just to clean it.
The engine was seized, due to a piece of metal wedged between the piston and liner. I installed a new engine that I just happened to have.
The tires were totally deteriorated - the rubber was all rotted.
It had no tank.
Some of the hinges were loose.
So, I made everything right and we test flew it. Although a handful, performed beautifully.
Here are a few photos.
The young fellow holding it is John and Buzz's late grandson, Alex.
The Sweeper is hanging on my kitchen wall - compare it to the Nobler!
Comments welcome.
Bob Z.
Thank you, what I love most about the sweeper is it isn't just gigantic, but it is gorgeous too.
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The contenders so far, above, are indeed curious and fascinating. Here is an unusual stunter ( Courtesy of Keith Trostle) that I think deserves a place amongst them from LittleOle NZ . It won at the NATS in 1952. It is called a Vampire. Looks like it would hang off the prop pretty much anywhere in the dome. Powered by a Frog 500 ( can't remember if it's 1 or 2 g's)
Perfect. Any itrr detail, like designer pilot? Etc?
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How's this for wild? Pusher canard electric flapped stunter, that actually competed in a well-known West Coast event and beat out conventional stunters!
As I recall, that poor guy only brought one battery to that contest and forgot the rest at home. But he did take second in advanced at the NW regionals with the same plane.
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Keith: I believe Air Ministry has pans for the Vampire.
I hope so because I have a brand new spark ignition Frog 500 and if I get the plans, I'll build the Vampire.
Bob Z.
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Ken -
YES .
John
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The contenders so far, above, are indeed curious and fascinating. Here is an unusual stunter ( Courtesy of Keith Trostle) that I think deserves a place amongst them from LittleOle NZ . It won at the NATS in 1952. It is called a Vampire. Looks like it would hang off the prop pretty much anywhere in the dome. Powered by a Frog 500 ( can't remember if it's 1 or 2 g's)
That design called the Vampire won the 1952 New Zealand Nationals. It was published in the August 1953 issue of Aeeromodeller. Had pully actuated elevators and flaps. Sort of a "ducted wing" format where the prop/air stream was directed through the middle of the wing. Had a hint of a "lifting surface" (my description) inside that wing duct so that the airstream would help maintain line tension.
Been tempted to build it for years just to see if it flies. Other projects get in the way.
Keith
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Found a thread on Arch Adamisin's Tri-Canard:
https://stunthanger.com/smf/stunt-design/arch-adamisin%27s-tri-canard/
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(https://stunthanger.com/smf/stunt-design/arch-adamisin's-tri-canard/?action=dlattach;attach=24512;image)
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Don't forget Walt Musciano's Martian Invader...
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And...
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few years ago i have spend a week to cut and build this oddity, called Nucleus, found on Outerzone.
Stunt? hardly stays on the air LOL
we had a meeting with a "race" challenge, and the late Marcos ( he was very well known here on SH and active) was bragging he would win the challenge. so i wanted to tease him and said i would come with a secret weapon to crush his plans....
he doubt i would pull a plane within a week. When i arrived he was in disbelief and i was acting like a "champion". He was worried until the thing got airborne
Nightmarish fligts but a hell of fun
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few years ago i have spend a week to cut and build this oddity, called Nucleus, found on Outerzone.
Stunt? hardly stays on the air LOL
But it's purdy!! And purdy covers a host of sins....
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But it's purdy!! And purdy covers a host of sins....
talking about sin....folks here nicknamed the plane "nossa senhora"
if you look at the shape, you can´t unsee this anymore
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RE VAMPIRE PLANS
Anyone interested in building this weird bat like Vampire, the plans are on Outerzone free download plans.
I must say it does look like a load of fun. I think it would turn on a pin.
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Mr Bob Hunt
Does your Clingon have the MRK I 'Gripper' Cloaking device or the MRK II 'Sucker"? LL~ S?P H^^
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Bill Netzeband's Fierce Arrow
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Smallest: Warren Walker’s Cox Tee Dee .010 powered Ringmaster. Pat King sells a kit that is advertised to have a 17” wingspan, but as you can see from the wineglass (for scale Lol!) the one in the picture is much smaller than 17”.
Paul
I've seen a few planes with teedee 020 and 010, but has one eer entered a contest and finished a pattern?
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Don't forget Walt Musciano's Martian Invader...
Any one ever compete with one?
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Bill Netzeband's Fierce Arrow
That's a definite one to mention. There's a 1200 sq in flying wing too. Can't recall the name.
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Any one ever compete with one?
I flew it in our "Musciano Unlimited" event years ago. It's a bit of a wild ride until you get it balanced correctly. Pretty easy to do loops, inverted, eights. Squares? Not so much.
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Several examples of Harold Reinhardt's Flying Wing Stunt showed up in the stunt circles in Minnesota contests in the mid-'50s. Usually powered by a Fox .35 Stunt engine of course.
Performance aside, they looked like they belonged in the combat circles ...
Dennis
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Flew Flights again yesterday . 3 flights . Now full span flaps . maybe it's tenth flight . ( in 20 years >:( ) Wasnt going to bad .
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Put the Royal .46 in it . in a SF case . Seemed to run better in its original Royal C' case .
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What do you say about Bob Baron's flapless 'Humbug'?
(I've only found a couple of small pictures)
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Maybe one of the first flying wing stunters with the extended center section (this was used later by Larry S and Red) was the Drone Diesel powered Flip Flop by Ray Borden. The Drone's ran a fat, thick, wide blade 11x10 prop turning at a whopping 5800 - 6000 rpm. The Drone is a very long stroked engine basically the stroke of a 60 and bore of a 15. It was very quiet. Back in the days of no mufflers running 60's my uncle and friends flew in a school yard across the street from his house. When the neighbors call the cops, they wound swap ships and fly the Drone, cops wound say OK. Then when they left out came the Atwood 60's again. Today we pull out the electric's!!
Best, DennisT
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What do you say about Bob Baron's flapless 'Humbug'?
(I've only found a couple of small pictures)
That one was interesting to watch fly. Most outstanding feature was 'it' and Bob did the roundest round maneuvers I've ever seen. Could have been something of an illusion too. Flaps change the angle of attack of the fuselage side view some. Without the flap the visuals were different. Maybe suffered some in the corners.
Dave
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I think my version of the Stunt Wing is hanging in the shop/ First flight pratice at VSC. Got it down in one piece. At Aunt Betty's I put a heavy hub on with bigger spinner. Was very happy with it. It got me a third place in St Louis that year. I have the BMJR kit I hope to get built. D>K
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Dave - I saw Bob flying a different version of the Humbug in the early seventies in upstate, NY.
Powered by a VECO 19 running screaming lean, the flying was amazing.
I believe Bob and Bill Netzeband worked together on the Humbug development.
Bob Z.
That one was interesting to watch fly. Most outstanding feature was 'it' and Bob did the roundest round maneuvers I've ever seen. Could have been something of an illusion too. Flaps change the angle of attack of the fuselage side view some. Without the flap the visuals were different. Maybe suffered some in the corners.
Dave
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DOC,
One of the tricks with the Stunt Wing (and the El Diablo too) is if you are using a standard 3" Veco bellcrank drill a new pushrod hole about 3/4 of the way between the mount bolt and the inner existing one. This slows the control and acts similar to a 4" for leverage (BTW if you use a 4" also put the pushrod hole about the distance that the VECO standard inner hole is to get similar slow controls. Other option is a longer than normal tail horn, you don't need more than 20 deg up/down.
Best, DennisT
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One of my more favorite VSC entries from 1996...
A Chuck Hollinger design from Air Trails 1949, and appears to be more suited to outdoor gas free flight. It is a very accurate one inch to the foot scale model, except the wing should be four inches longer.
Fox 35, ( Of Course!!! Its Me! ) 28.3 oz, 310 sq in, 50 inch span, and Eighteen Feet of .015 functional wing rigging.....
The wing folded in practice the day before officials. Todd and I managed to get it back in one piece.
Made two officials, the second flight was the best, but did not do outside loops and vertical eights, according to my log book.
Well, it WAS a bit breezy....
Jim
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Looked through Elwyn Aid’s facebook pictures he posted over there years and found these. Here are a couple unusual ones. The first one is a Flying Star designed by Don Yearout. Second one is an Air Trails flying wing
I flew the Flying Star for Charley Bruce at the VSC. It was very nose heavy, and would not turn well. I did a loop the started 6 feet high, and went behind my head at the top.
When I landed the star, it had a high sink rate and landed hard even though it was level when it landed. I could not get it to flare at all. It was mainly for show and tell.
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What do you say about Bob Baron's flapless 'Humbug'?
(I've only found a couple of small pictures)
It definitely deserves mention because it was unusual AND as I understand, very competitive.
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How's this for wild? Pusher canard electric flapped stunter, that actually competed in a well-known West Coast event and beat out conventional stunters!
I remember a lunatic flying a very similar canard design at NW CL Regionals in 2022, but it had a K&B/Veco .61. He flew it pretty well, but was severely hampered by the canard configuration. Very limited cornering ability was the problem. H^^ Steve
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I seem to have a picture of a plan for a flapped version of the Humbug: Humbug 666, with 660 sq in wing.
I cannot tell what else is different from the flapless one.
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Bah .
(https://outerzone.co.uk/images/_thumbs/plans/11311.jpg)
looks like a Combat wing , really . https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=11311
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Whereas theother lookslikethis . BAh . AN UMBUG " 60 " WITHA s tIGRE 60 . http://www.flystunt.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/BARON251.jpg
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OR THE MARK OF THE BEAST ONE .https://plans.modelaircraft.org/product/humbug-666/ may 95 model av. / july 93 for a OS .32 one . n~
Now we're all sufficently confused . :-\
What I want is pictures of his earlier ' world champs ' FSR ' Hallmark ' ( were told ) or The PLAN . Thanks .
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Think he built a few , around then . at least theres pictures of a few He Built . But WHERES the Drawing . ?
We've saved you 6.000 words there . As A Picture is Worth a thousand words . unbelievable .
You acyually got ' the schedule ' out of a Netzband Splinter , So theres a tie Up , there . Cept the G-15 was so rich it'd often fall out of the cloverleaf , if at a normal stunt speed .
And it was to fast to see , flat out . Kiwi ones were often pre formed hollow 1 in x 1 1/8 LE with a 1 in front & 2 in rear wing sheeting & capstrips , with ' peacemaker ' wingtips .
(http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!B7PuL3QCGk~$(KGrHqN,!jcEzKGbKumEBMzqSkrWyQ~~_35.JPG) NETEZBAND being the consulting aerodynamicist . %^@ on BOTH . H^^
They float about like this , nose just out 4/16ths ish . stern LL~ half up , or is that half down . Touch n Go on water - The Stiction means you wanna hit hard briefly up , to break loose .
Take Off , You sortta start on full up , but its a balancing act trying not to sink it . Probly Overstated , but rough water usage on minimalist floats , is out . No Worries on GRASS which is what theyre for ANYWAY .
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Mr Air Ministry
Did you by chance ever fly seaplane CL at French or Mill Bay in Auckland? I spoke at the NATS to an old chap who used to fly them there many years ago- forgot his name.
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Did you by chance ever fly seaplane CL at French or Mill Bay in Auckland? I spoke at the NATS to an old chap who used to fly them there many years ago- forgot his name.
But Im a young chap , Im only thousands of years old . The Planets been here HOW LONG .
see how my Big Toe sticks out .
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" Does this 20,000 years old footprint belong to the fastest man in History? – " “if you weren’t fit in those days, you didn’t survive.”
No , I tried to fly them at Exmouth Footbridge .
Into breeze and waveletts , you ended up walking backward down the beach . Not entirely successfull .
Dont drop a Hot Commando in 2nd their either , on a rainy day . Gas on in the Loose , we ' got the vibe ' .
Look over the shoulder revealed a 50 foot roostertail of fine gravel , drifting in the misty rain over the three lanes of near stationary vehicals .
OOPs .
This then indicated to me , that if the LINES were on the OTHER wing , I wouldnt have to walk , aS THE pLANE WOULD BE wALKING away FROM Me .
Wich appears to be correct .
OTHER place I crashed em was onipoto basin . A wingover through upwind - WHACK , into ' The HARD ' ( a Nautical term ! ;) )
As there was a problem in running back over the pond to tighten the lines . Most Unfortunate .
A neear New Tom Morley Thunderbolt . Tidy Plane And months of work . S P L A T T . >:(
Thereafter we contemplated ponds , mud flats , cetra et cetra . Flown the MC 72 in the Orewa river , and at Whitianga . All ive got to say about Salt Water , is DONT .
Also , the inner float'll dip . Tickly after landing . Line Weight submergese the wing tip . Glug Glug Glug , if theres no trained & disiplined crew to hand . Salt Water is not a lubricant .
On Grass , the lines on the wrong wing have it going away from you , But it cant , so it wont . or move forward either . UNLESS you DROP IT . Unassisted - from say 1 inch altitude .
With the S6 wing flipped for conventionaliseation now , the inner whatsit releases the restraint , and it moves forward unaided when released - sitting on ' the lawn ' . No Worries .
Rt Wing Leadouts you must walk TOWARD it , to free the ' sticktion ' stucking it .
With reasonable streamlining , the FLOATS can be BIG , so it wont sink . The BIGGER the more lift & the More Rounded the Better Gust Stability , from whative seensofar .
Not flown radio neither , tho sitting viewing a dead flat sea at dawn had us thinking it'd be the go , when S6 first erected .
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Theres a few planes the immediate thought after the first flight is ' Id Like a BIGGER one of Those . Mc 72 came first , so the S6 was Bigger . 60 in . Id say no bigger unless your not 10 stone .
Like Bob's remarks on Twin engines and Wheel Fairings , these've got SOMETHING going for them . if you avoid SALT WATER . Grass is fine . a wire thrread or team race wheel under - inside , for harder surfaces .
Earlier Narrow MC 72 floats , cross winds ' nibbled ' the tracking . Yaw . Flat . Disconcerting but not discombobulateing . ;D The Bigger Currently fitted floats , despite throwing out the C G so theres lead aft & its overweight ( inna da movie ), DONT disfunctionalise it , inna da wind . Man . HOWEVER , replacement Original Thin scrawny floats are to be refitted . As it was deadly accurate wiffem . Patternwise .
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You can see you have to built THREE Fuselage . Which is a bit of a chore . Anyone with F Glaass R C fuse . competance would build A float , for a PATTERN , and Do Composette ones .
Gotta be set Neutral , And I prefer a slight ' Toe In ' . Feel is slightly differant , load top , to load under . But If She's honkin , its like yer on rails / Men ! . The Next great Frontier in F2B .
Theres a few movies offit ere , despte appearaces it was mostly fighting to find a bit when the FP 40 / Magnum was pulling , trying to find a brain cell , and avoiding holes in the air , or the opposite .
In Some you can see the trees moving . So these were more ' proving ' flights for big(ger ) floats than acomplised performances . Someone filmed it recently with a Gp44 innit . Adequate grunt but all the C G & weight
issues but at least it was something like back to its old self . Though he Filmed the first half assed flight , not the wonders & marvells of a decent run & semi tooned in Pilot . :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84IReYwclM
The P51 one , the pilots been out in the sun , for seven hours . Brain Fade . He is capeable of talking like a condescending snot , in suitable company .
Thats at the S.A.T. field at Bankstown , where you feel your in the cross cultural cross hairs . Often Here after heavy rain , things are ' a bit damp ' .
So if we introduce a ' No Cop Outs ' clause , everbody else'll be sunk . S?P LL~ :-X
AND you NEED 5/32 Gear Leg Wire . AT LEAST for the FRONT Legs . s6 is 5/32 all and is good . You can get dramatic ' thunks ' if you crease a bump , landing . They throw it loose , going Fwd. too .
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The Waters a bit wet , usually . Your better off on grass .
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Vell Vell Vell , Comrades .
Last alf of THIRD flight with the now 1/4 wider full span flaps . Tank needs to be better . Pilots Brain about 5 or 6 tenths . With it in a few places . Not Entirely with it in the clover . Distracted they call it .
Amougst other things . ALSO the WEIGHT is 76 plus , there . Was 71 once . Still well pleased , as itll groove etc . Seems to have lost most of the ' far out ' squares I was hitting . SF 46 on a 12 x 6 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvkkxKh-L4o
just hit pause , as it comes past , to observe its peculiarities . Waas supposed to be a ' still ' on the ground , to start .
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I've seen a few planes with teedee 020 and 010, but has one eer entered a contest and finished a pattern?
I flew a TeeDee 020 powered 1/2 A Snapper to a 485 pattern once and an Atwood Shriek powered Firebaby through the entire OT pattern. I can provide witnesses to both.
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Larry ... I loved the 1/2 A Snapper ... many fond memories
Here is an experiment from 20 yrs back ...
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This one's kinda unusual. ;)
https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/picture-posting-test-(pby-catalina-stunter)/msg148929/#msg148929
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Larry ... I loved the 1/2 A Snapper ... many fond memories
Here is an experiment from 20 yrs back ...
Still trying to figure out how that muffler works. Seems to be a wireless connection to the engine n~
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Here's my attempt at something different!
Colibri - Italian for hummingbird.
So, here are some statistics:
Wingspan - 68 1/2 inches
Tailspan - 31 1/8 inches
Tail moment (hinge to hinge) - 19 inches
Weight - 78.3 ounces
Power - three OS Surpass 26 four cycle engines.
Master Airscrew 9-6 plastic propellers.
The plane flies extremely well. No problem with any of the maneuvers.
The wings are removeable just outside the nacelles.
The fuselage disassembles just aft of the trailing edge.
I set it up so that the outboard engine quits first, then the inboard and finally the middle engine.
And, believe it or not, it will fly on just the middle engine.
The cowls are made from seltzer bottles.
Bob Z.
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From the June 1948 Flying Models. I built a "Super Looper" and flew it at VSC as did Charlie Reeves a few years later... It is so basic.... D>K
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One more. Kapak tank, Forster .29 engine.
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Bottom view.
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Now THAT'S really cool!
I love the basic simple approach.
And a rear intake Forster to boot.
Bob Z.
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This one's kinda unusual. ;)
Very cool. Did you continue flying it? How did it do?
https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/picture-posting-test-(pby-catalina-stunter)/msg148929/#msg148929
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Here's my attempt at something different!
Colibri - Italian for hummingbird.
So, here are some statistics:
Wingspan - 68 1/2 inches
Tailspan - 31 1/8 inches
Tail moment (hinge to hinge) - 19 inches
Weight - 78.3 ounces
Power - three OS Surpass 26 four cycle engines.
Master Airscrew 9-6 plastic propellers.
The plane flies extremely well. No problem with any of the maneuvers.
The wings are removeable just outside the nacelles.
The fuselage disassembles just aft of the trailing edge.
I set it up so that the outboard engine quits first, then the inboard and finally the middle engine.
And, believe it or not, it will fly on just the middle engine.
The cowls are made from seltzer bottles.
Bob Z.
That's cool Bob!
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From the June 1948 Flying Models. I built a "Super Looper" and flew it at VSC as did Charlie Reeves a few years later... It is so basic.... D>K
Nice to see a super looper, I've thought of building one before.
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Doc
I built a Stunt Wing about3 years ago (BMJR kit), I also had to add a higleys
heavy hub to balance out the plane.
flies great by the way.
I am using an HB 25 on mine.
Carl
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That's cool Bob!
Thanks, Dave - what's really cool is the sound!
Bob Z.
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Didn't one of the Adamisin's fly a stunter with a canard and conventional tail at the '86 NATS? Seems like it was yellow..... Also, didn't people try a freewheeling counter-rotating behind the "regular" prop?
The setup was not free wheeling it was driven on all props untill the engine stopped , then the rear prop free wheeled until it wound down
Randy Smith