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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: George Albo on August 02, 2019, 09:11:50 AM
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Does anyone have an actual kit plan for the Midwest PT-19 kit by Dave H.?
If so, I wish to scan it, make a PDF of it and send it back to you you after I have made the copy. I'll reimburse you for the postage, and email you a copy of the PDF when done.
Outerzone has a nice copy but it is not the Midwest kit plan.
Thanks,
George
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i sell an autocad plan of the Exact PT 19 that Dave Flew
Randy
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Two places you might find them. The AMA section of plans from magazines and from the John Ponds collection. It list two: Plan #45E4 from the American Modeler 9/60 and plan #82E3 from the Midwest Products Company.
Once in the AMA site, go to "Shop" and click on plans. When the John Pond 2019 collection comes up, click on the letter "P". I went to F for Fairchild. Seems if you want a P 51, You go to N for North American. So much for logic. Any way, the kit plans are $20.00 and the magazine plans are $13.00. Hope this helps finding a set of plans. H^^
Thank you Ty.
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i sell an autocad plan of the Exact PT 19 that Dave Flew
Randy
Thanks Randy
George
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I saw Dave and his PT-19 many times until about 10 years ago when he stopped coming to Huntersville. He was flying newer design models but he always looked great fling his PT-19 He also had a great looking classic Rabe P-51
Ed
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I saw Dave and his PT-19 many times until about 10 years ago when he stopped coming to Huntersville. I was flying newer design models but he always looked great fling his PT-19 He also had a great looking classic Rabe P-51
Ed
I learned to fly inverted on that PT-19. The model flew very nicely, then one day while flying, the lines snapped. Flew free flight very nicely for about 100 feet then veered to the right and got rekitted. I had bought it off a guy by the name of John Gimbal in the '70's. I miss that plane.
I have a copy of the magazine plan from the '60's. That plan shows a solid sheet tail. As best as I can remember, mines was built up and tissued.
George
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Hi George;
I have the Midwest kit of that airplane, and the Umland kit. If the AMA plans service doesn't not help you let me know and I will look into seeing if Kinkos can scan it and put it on a disc of thumb drive for me, or make you a paper copy. i don't know what Walter used as the basis for his kit, the mag plan or the kit plan, but the magazine plans are generally more true to the original as we know kit manufacturers were known to modify designs to get the kits into standard boxes.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Thank you for your kind offer Dan. I'll let you know.
Thanks,
George Albo
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The Midwest PT-19 used a unique wing structure not likely shown on any other non-kit plan.
The Midwest kit split the ribs horizontally, just below the chord line. This enabled the builder to frame up the wing over the plans on a flat building board. Then the builder is supposed to glue the bottom halves onto the ribs and finish the other side of the wing. Never saw any other kit use anything like that system, and it still put a lot of pressure on the builder to jig-up the half-wing so that the bottom could be built onto it straight.
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I built a kit PT-19 as you described. Each rib had a section of the lower half die-cut off so the wing could lie flat on a board. Then the bottom sections of the ribs
were glued back on.
I had a second kit that I traded to Big Art for some engine work. Most likely, the unbuilt kit was part of his collection.
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The Midwest PT-19 used a unique wing structure not likely shown on any other non-kit plan.
The Midwest kit split the ribs horizontally, just below the chord line. This enabled the builder to frame up the wing over the plans on a flat building board. Then the builder is supposed to glue the bottom halves onto the ribs and finish the other side of the wing. Never saw any other kit use anything like that system, and it still put a lot of pressure on the builder to jig-up the half-wing so that the bottom could be built onto it straight.
As you might imagine I've been looking online for information to gleam from the kit plans. I saw a partial wing online. It did have a cut across the rib to accomodate this type of build. I found it interesting that Midwest did this for this kit and none other. I did get my answer with regards to the tail feathers. the original did use solid balsa. I did not find any other details. I do remember the built up rudder as I had to repair it from a minor landing mishap, until the inevitable ultimately happened. If anything, I'll build my copy from the magazine plan that I have. unless I get something better. I will incorporate a built up rudder like the one I had though