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Title: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Tom Rounds on July 11, 2011, 05:40:22 PM
Crash at Duxford air        http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1469452
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Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Tim Wescott on July 11, 2011, 06:45:21 PM
I'm astounded that the P-51 pilot managed to bail out -- there wasn't much time.  They said he parachuted to safety, from 100 feet -- that had to take some luck.
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Mike Keville on July 11, 2011, 07:03:37 PM
Wonder if Matt Neumann saw this one.  "Big Beautiful Doll" is history.
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: wwwarbird on July 11, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
 Wow, that's some really bad news. At least it seems everyone is ok. Very, very lucky however.

 Hopefully "Mr. Skyraider" gets to do no more formation flying.
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: wwwarbird on July 11, 2011, 11:31:29 PM
That's part of the problem when aircraft with different turning radius fly together. Bet that big wing on the Skyraider blocked the pilots view of the P51.

 Sorry, no excuse.
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Neville Legg on July 12, 2011, 01:04:59 AM
I'm trying to find out whether the P51 pilot is one of my customers here in Kent? Rob Davies flew a P51 "Big Beautiful Doll" from a private airstrip, and I regularly saw it parked there in the sun. I've only just heard about this, I don't think there was any TV coverage over here? His company makes R/C Drones and he was a very experienced pilot.  I shall have to ring them this morning.

Cheers
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Douglas Ames on July 12, 2011, 03:03:13 AM
That's part of the problem when aircraft with different turning radius fly together.

My thoughts too. I wonder how much experience they had flying with eachother before this flight?
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Neville Legg on July 12, 2011, 04:42:29 AM
Yes, it was my customer Rob Davies, for somebody who is in his mid to late 60's he got out of that P51 very smartly! The conscientious of opinion over here was that it was Skyraider pilots fault.

Cheers
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Peter Nevai on July 12, 2011, 10:40:03 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013219/Pilot-Rob-Davies-escapes-WW2-fighter-mid-air-collision-airshow.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013219/Pilot-Rob-Davies-escapes-WW2-fighter-mid-air-collision-airshow.html)
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: Neville Legg on July 13, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
His secretary told me yesterday, that he had just sold that P51 and the new owner asked him to fly it one last time in the airshow! ???
How many times have you said to yourself "I'll just have one more flight before I pack up" for it to be the final one for that model?

Cheers
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: M Spencer on July 13, 2011, 05:36:52 AM
looks like the skyraider stuffed its wingtip into the area under the P-51 stab. ' possible control difficulties ' for it
Fudge .
Title: Re: mid air crash P 51 & A1D
Post by: john e. holliday on July 13, 2011, 07:55:21 AM
Much better video over on Plane-a-Day.  Still too close to the ground for me to be comfortable.  Also a great nose on shot of the beautiful plane.  As usual tho everyone is ready to give blame on who caused the accident.  Maybe a little more communication between all parties.