MAN Continental Plans

[Bradley Walker]

I want ot get a set of full size MAN Continental plans from the 1971 issue.  Anybody know where I could get one?

[Bill Sawyer]

I don't know where you can get copies of those plans. Larry Cunningham is drawing the Continental in Auto Cad for me and I plan to offer it as a laser cut kit.

[PatRobinson]

Hi Bradley,
I bought plans for the "Continental" from Tom Dixon. The plane has a very elegant shape.
                                                      Hope this helps,

                                                     Pat Robinson

[Randy Powell]

Yea, the plans are around. If I ever build another classic plane (probably not for awhile), I'd love to build something like this. Shame the Continental and the Minado don't qualify for classic. Very cool shapes.

[Bradley Walker]

Yea, the plans are around. If I ever build another classic plane (probably not for awhile), I'd love to build something like this. Shame the Continental and the Minado don't qualify for classic. Very cool shapes.

I want to make a Super Continental.

I would like to size up the original just slightly. 

CAD plans would be good.

[Dan McEntee]

Yea, the plans are around. If I ever build another classic plane (probably not for awhile), I'd love to build something like this. Shame the Continental and the Minado don't qualify for classic. Very cool shapes.

      I may be wrong, but I think the Continental is classic legal, and the Minado may be also. Sparky knew Tom Warden at the time and ought to know for sure. Tom Lay had the Minado at one of the early VSC contests that I attended and flew it, and I have seen the original Continental on a few occasons also. I think Wardon took quite a while to build and finish his models, and bothe models existed beofre the cut off date, and plenty of SoCal flyers still around to verify that. Again, I may be wrong, but I think they are legal, at least the Continental for sure?
  Type at you later,
 Dan McEntee

[Bob Zambelli]

May sound like a dumb question but is the Continental being discussed here the same one kitted by DMECO in the 50s?

If so, it's defintely classic legal.

It is also a beautiful plane but must be built light if any performance is desired.

As I recall, very sleek, cheek cowls, dural gear, wheel pants, around 40 inch span and .19 to .35 power (?)

Bob Z.

[Bill Sawyer]

   Bob, The Dmeco Continental is a different plane. The Warden Continental is much larger.

   A discussion of the legality of the Continental was done on another forum a few years ago and it was determined that the Continental was classic legal. Norm Whittle told me that he flew the Playboy in the 1968 NATS and soon afterward Tom purchased the plane from him. The Playboy was used to design the Continental and the Menado. I believe it is Tom Lay that owns a Menado that was built by Tom with sort of purplish tones. The paint layout on the wing is almost the same as the Playboy as flown by Norm Whittle. I have been told that the Continental and the Menado are the same plane except the Continental is a "d" tube and the Menado is an I-beam.
   In June of 1968, my civil service employment transferred me to San Diego. Sometime while I was there and I believe it was late 1969, I rode with a couple of local flyers to Whittier and met Tom. On the following weekend I went again and purchased a set of plans to the Continental from Tom for $ 5.00. I left San Diego early in December of 1969 so I could spend Christmas with family in Albuquerque and then be in Memphis in January of 1970. I did check my dates on old transfer papers so the dates are correct.
   I have never seen a Menado in person - only pictures - so I do not know if it is classic legal. I have not seen a discussion on it and I hope someone can answer the questiom

[Bradley Walker]

HI Bill.  If those plans are what I think they are, they are more detailed than the MAN version. I got a set, pencil drawn, from a guy from Escondido, a few years back. In comparing them to the MAN version, they are more detailed, but basically the same. 
 I have a laser cut one time kit of the Warden Continental laying in the garage.  Having held the original, I hope it comes out lighter. Tom sure did apply the dope, but perfectly. 

how do I get a copy of those plans?

[Jim Pollock]

Calling Randy Powell,

Just a short note to let you know the Continental is a classic legal airplane.  Bob Whitely flew with Tom Warden
in the late 60's and Tom was flying the Continental in 1969.  This was confirmed by Phil Granderson and Paul Walker.
Therefore, since the airplane was known to exist in 1969, before the article came out by a couple of years, then it meets the classic eligibility requirements.  This was all hashed out over on the other board (SSW) back in about 2001-2002.  In fact what came to light is that both the Continental and Minado were direct descendants of
Jim Mayfeild's Playboy of 1966-67 extraction.  There are just too many airplanes that were either built and flown or just plain designed before the cut off date of 12-31-1969 that were little known or unknown.  That doesn't mean they
are not classic eligible.

Jim Pollock,    Brining to light, true classics that are unknown........

[Bill Sawyer]

Jim,
   I saw the Continental in what was probably late 1969 whan I bought the plans to it. Do you have any dates on the Minado?

Bill

[Randy Powell]

Well, that's good. Much like Bill Simon's Shoestring, I guess. Not published until the early 70s but originally designed and built in the late 60s.

[Jim Pollock]

Yep,

Just like the UK Nimrod's up to Nr. IV are classic legal too. 

Jim Pollock

[Jim Pollock]

Bill,

My understanding is that the Minado came before the Continental.  Tom bought the Playboy that was flown
at the 1968 Nats and decided to monkey around with the design and building a bit.  The Continental was
post Minado by 6 months or so.

Jim Pollock   

[Elwyn Aud]

[Wynn Robins]

Bradley,

I have the plan somewhere stored electronically.........in PDF.

I will e-mail it to you when I find it.

Wynn