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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: phil c on December 09, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
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Picked this up from Tim W's play by play topic.
"Low pullouts inverted are when you knock the vertical stabilizer off your Ringmaster. y1 Anything lower qualifies as a crash. Layingdown
Pat"
My long time flying buddy, Gil Reedy, told me about watching Steve Wooley, an early great stunter, do the pattern. According to Gil, on the outside squares he hit the first one too low and dragged the rudder across the bottom, did the same thing one the second one. Technically not the best, but very impressive.
I watched an old friend, Jeff Welliver, pull out upside down on the RWO, dragging the tail. He kept it there until enough of the rudder ground off that he could pull it off the ground and completed the maneuver. At least he was as level as possible for that half lap.
Phil C
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It's not how low you can pull out without crashing, it's having the guts to keep the bottoms low for the rest of the maneuver to avoid multiple deductions.
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I had the, errr, pleasure? of watching Steve Wooley break the tail off the original Argus at the airport in Parkersburg, W VA in either 1957 or '58. I was not flying stunt then, just learning, and was appalled at his low flying! He came back with his Fierce Arrow and flew the contest with it.
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Hey, our own Dan McEntee did that this pat summer in Topeka KS. modifying the rudder using the tarmac so he could get lower pullouts. I hope to see him do that at Buder Park sometime this year also. By the way he did take first place that day.
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Hey Doc, you are likely to see that happen at Buder Park. I think there is something about flying there that intices rudder modifications. I have seen Allen Goff do it twice, and I attempted it many years ago. Made half a lap sanding the rudder down before it got to the prop. Another quarter lap and the scraping stopped. All was very quite. Made a really neat balsa ring around the circle though. However, I don't recommend it for keeping the finish in tact. :'(
Larry
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Made a really neat balsa ring around the circle though.
Fly on grass. All my models have green color applied to the rudder AFTER the paint has cured LL~
I a sucker for high wind flying. it's challenging and requires full on concentration. It also provides for some interesting close calls. At club gatherings, when the wind comes up, everyone packs their planes in and sits down to watch Steve fly. These bums take bets on how I'm going to crash! Low pull outs is a popular option. HB~>
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In calm conditions, failing to step back during consecutive Outside maneuvers may cause you to fly through your own turbulance and instantly remove your vertical fin....or worse. A lesson learned 'The Hard Way' some years ago.