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Local Hobby Shops
« on: January 30, 2013, 01:32:17 PM »
I live in New Orlelans which is a fair size city.  We do not have what you would call a place where you can go to fulfill your needs if you were building a CL model from scratch or even an RC plane for that matter.  Baton Rouge has one that is fairly well stocked but still lacks items.

My question is what has happened to cause the demise of the local hobby shop?  In recent years there seems to have been a massive closing of retail hobby stores all over the country and if you do find one they are sparsely stocked.
Is the younger generation so involved in computer games that they have no interest.  Even in the RC club that I belong to I would say the average age is over 60.  Whatever the reason, I think it is sad.

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 03:32:11 PM »
Smirk.

My LHS (Coyote Hobby) has everything you need to build an RC plane, most of which applies to control line.

Granted, it won't be the best RC plane, and the craft store down the road often has better balsa (they get more turnover, and folks building birdhouses or boy scout projects or whatever seem to avoid the "icky soft stuff"), but it can be done.

Of course, Russ builds himself, and has a deep respect for people who build, so he intentionally caters to us.

But to answer your question: partially, there's a lot fewer people building, and partially, it's so easy to order the specialty stuff off the internet, that there's no money in trying to stock everything.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 03:37:19 PM »
Tim I would say you are indeed fortunate. 

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Smirk.

My LHS (Coyote Hobby) has everything you need to build an RC plane, most of which applies to control line.

Granted, it won't be the best RC plane, and the craft store down the road often has better balsa (they get more turnover, and folks building birdhouses or boy scout projects or whatever seem to avoid the "icky soft stuff"), but it can be done.

Of course, Russ builds himself, and has a deep respect for people who build, so he intentionally caters to us.

But to answer your question: partially, there's a lot fewer people building, and partially, it's so easy to order the specialty stuff off the internet, that there's no money in trying to stock everything.

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 03:39:09 PM »
I guess what happened is China... LL~ LL~

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 03:55:36 PM »
I guess what happened is China... LL~ LL~

The "everything gets made in China" trend is reversing.  If we're not ready to catch some of that business and do something with it, we're going to be sorry in about 20 years.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2013, 07:16:56 PM »
The RC ARF!!

At first they were not thought of too highly and people still had to build their models if they wanted high performance.  The first ones were heavy and not built with much precision.  Over the years the quality continued get better and better.

Now the possibilities that are offered are endless from small foam models of your favorite WW2 plane to 1/3 scale bipes that can compete at the highest levels of IMAC.  Next was heli world, they were infiltrated and now you can get ready to run off the shelf rigs that will do all of the top 3d moves for a mere $450.00.  The model can way out perform the pilot right out of the box. It used to be a $1000.00 investment that was sure to get busted right out of the gate.  Few had the cash to start.  Now they come with built in gyro stabilizers that can create a training mode that can minimize early learning damage. 

The need to build a model if you want to get out and fly is just not the case anymore.  Many people start flying because they want to fly.  Now they just buy it ready to fly.  It isn't just the younger generation either.  It is anyone who walks in a shop to get into model aviation of any kind or shop online. And I certainly cant and wont blame them.   I remember when I started all I wanted to do was fly fly fly and building was just a means to get there.  It was several years in before I actually embraced building and really learned to enjoy it.  I just wanted to fly, fly, and fly some more!

I cringe every time I hear the "instant gratification tag" placed on young people.  They dont know any better so it isnt something that should be pinned on people as a bad thing.  I can guarantee the parents of the 50s-60s kids were saying same thing.   ;D ;D

The next thing that killed the LHS is the BOOM of shopping online and the distributors that can beat any price.  This happened right after the ARF started to get somewhat acceptable.  The two together along with the introduction of the foam park flyer helped wipe out traditional building of the model to get to fly. 

At this time you can get small helicopters at 7/11 for $29.99 that actually fly pretty good. I had one that lasted over 100 flights and I actually got pretty darn good at it. With some weights on it I got pretty good at flying backwards too. :)

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2013, 07:34:05 PM »
First it was mail order, now things online. We still have a great hobby shop here, but so many off my freinds have not been there in years. They just order it and it at the door when they get home. How many of you have went to the hobby shop and order a kit lately. My brother and I allways go to the hobby shop to get are brodak and Sig things. He does not stock CL things but he will order them. I seen a post on here about where to get balsa, no one said go to the hobby shop and have them order it. Everyone wants faster and cheeper no one wants service. Now we got what we wanted.

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 07:36:30 PM »
Washington State has an "inventory tax", which makes it even & ever more expensive to carry any stock. Some don't seem to think that's a problem, because the turnover in their items of interest (Twinkies, Mountain Doo and Ribeyes) is so fast that the inventory tax isn't a problem. For fishing tackle, hobby supplies and auto parts, it's a problem.  :P Steve
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 11:11:01 PM »
First it was mail order, now things online. We still have a great hobby shop here, but so many off my freinds have not been there in years. They just order it and it at the door when they get home. How many of you have went to the hobby shop and order a kit lately. My brother and I allways go to the hobby shop to get are brodak and Sig things. He does not stock CL things but he will order them. I seen a post on here about where to get balsa, no one said go to the hobby shop and have them order it. Everyone wants faster and cheeper no one wants service. Now we got what we wanted.

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This is very true!  I was recently tasked with upgrading my RC car from brushed to brushless system.  Pretty much an overhaul I kind of totally talked myself into.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA how many haven't done that before.  I know I could have found the stuff a little cheaper online.  But instead I had the guys at the LHS order it for me, took a special slim battery.  Turns out it worked in my favor as they soldered all the connections for me right on the spot with their purpose built soldering rig.  Being a novice when it comes to cars it would have certainly taken me alot longer and many more attempts to get it right.  Also, if I have troubles I can go right in and get some help.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 12:04:43 AM »
We have a great hobby shop in driving distance to all club members. Penn Valley Hobby Center, Lansdale PA. Walk in and smell the balsa. Stocks lots of CL stuff. Will order almost anything. Nice folks. Even survived the online onslaught. In fact they do lots of business off ebay. Age unfortunately is catching up to them. What can you do. Open only on Saturdays now. When they shut down for good, they will be missed many.

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 06:55:55 AM »
I guess I should weigh in on this since I asked the question to start with and the best way I know to do it is an analogy.

When I got home from the service I went to work for a wholesale distributor of millwork and building materials.  Our customer base was the independent and mom and pop lumber yards.  I had about 60 customers that I called on regular and sold them doors, windows, moldings and just about everything to build a house with except commodities such as framing lumber and insulation.  It was a great job and we depended upon each other for a living.

Then in the early 70's, a couple of companies called Home Depot and Lowes came on the scene along with a few other Big Box companies and it only took a few years for them to put the mom and pop lumber yards out of business.  In order for us to survive since they bought directly from the manufacturers in huge quantities, we had to start selling direct to the contractor but still could no match the prices that Home Depot and Lowes were offering the contractors.  Eventually in the early 80's, my company closed their doors for good.

Horizon Hobbies, Tower and a few others are now the Lowes and Home Depot of the modeling industry and they buy from China were the ARF is assembled by 13 year old girls in a sweat shop.

Think about what the CD did to vinyl albums..it put a whole industry out of business.  I am not saying that was a bad thing, it is just the way it is...

Building my own models gives me a sense of pride and accomplishment that satisfies a need in me.... but that is me.

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 08:01:36 PM »
The biggest problem that the local hobby shop faces is the simple fact that their major supplier is also their major competitor. The largest hobby supplier is Great Planes. This company is owned by the same people who own Tower Hobbies.

I supply local hobby shops with private label nuts and bolts and have done so for over 20 years so I have some level of expertise in this area. Your local hobby shop must make a minimum of 20% profit in order to keep the lights on. As of this post Tower is selling the LA .46 R/C engine for $84.98. The local hobby shop purchases this engine from Great Planes for $69.96 (assuming they are at the highest discount level). That gives them a gross profit of $ 15.02. Of course they have to pay shipping so that profit is reduced. Since the $15.02 represents a gross profit of only 21% they really can not afford to carry a large stock. This means that when they sell the LA .46 engine they barely cover their overhead. There is nothing left over for them to live on.

Would you work all day and earn nothing? Of course not. That is why many hobby shop owners are closing their doors.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 08:07:51 PM »
ERIC  is  exactly correct, and nailed it, Tower Hobbies has been the death of the Local Hobby shop, You cannot compete and stay in business when the competition controls you, your hours, your prices, who you can sell to, how much etc etc.  They also have ignored all anti trust laws.

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 08:54:00 PM »
I guess I'm lucky. We still have two OUTSTANDING LHS's in the area. One in Wilson N.C., the Antique Barn and Hobby opened in 1965 and Hayes Hobby House in Fayetteville N.C, opened in 1967.  Both these shops are family members and headquarters for many, many different clubs from flying, R/C racing, trains etc.. There is always someone at the cash register just like McDonald's. I hope they stay in business for many more years, that's why I support them even if the price may be a little higher. Customer support still means a lot to myself, worth every extra cent.

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 06:16:53 AM »
In a more serious approach, I'd say that what really kills the hobby shops is the customers that prefer saving a few bucks to supporting their shops.
I can give you one instance, just yesterday I drove 120 miles, with a few road tolls on the way to go to the city of Campinas, where Stunthobby model shop is located.
The owner, Martin Quartim, is a member here.
His shop has a wide variety of CL stuff, from lines and handles, to the newest kits avaiable, it's all there.
I only and always shop there, ok, sometimes he mails me some stuff, but I really like being in the shop, so I can see what I need, and what I don't need.
I know he works very hard to bring us the best there is for CL, and I understand he has to make a living out of it.
Though, I know of many people who prefer to order directly the suppliers, in hope of saving the already mentioned few bucks.
I support those who support the sport.

Oh, here's Martin's shop

http://www.stunthobby.com/

The picture shows what I needed yesterday...
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 09:36:15 AM »
We are pretty lucky here in the Erie area.  We have Maxwell's hobby shop that not only carries a huge inventory of C/L equipment but Joe Maxwell also comes out and flies with our club and supports the flying activity in the area.  When our club needed a CD he voluntered to go thru the paperwork to become one to help keep things going.   We all support his shop and club members even get a discount.   During the winter months Maxwells sponsors a bi-weekly workshop time in Joe's workshop where the builders can get togather to help each other solve problems and basically have a good time.  There's a lot to be said for supporting this kind of LHS.

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 09:41:33 AM »
I agree about the online hobby stores.  And there's the credit card modeler, he just wants the shelf item and here's my card.  Not enough building. ARF's and RTF's >:D.  Luck for us we have a R/C hobbies owned by a builder and is willing to even stock some C/L items for us.  And I would rather buy from him and pay tax than get it from Tower or Horizon and pay the shipping. D>K

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 09:47:10 AM »
It sounds like that some of you are very lucky and have hobby shops near that actually inventory the items you need.  The only two hobby type stores we have here is one that specializes in model trains and plastic models only and the other one only deals with RC cars and someone told me recently that they went out of business.   Eric made a valid point about Tower and the suppliers to the hobby shops being their competitors also. 

I hope the stores that currently exist can hold on and continue to furnish you all with your needs.  We are just not as fortunate in our area.

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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2013, 12:39:24 PM »
I know of one hobby shop that pretty much just run fantasy games.  They have some R/C RTF's but no fuel, props, ect.  Crazy!

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2013, 02:14:57 PM »
America's Hobby Center was there forever.  Back in the late 1940s to early 1950s I ordered quite a bit from them, as the nearest hobby shop (very good one) was 60 miles away.  I was out of modeling from 1961 to about 1975.  When I got back in the hobby, the big complaint was discount mail order killing local hobby shops.  There were still a number of hobby shops in the St. Louis area.  I decided to spend $300 a year at local hobby shops and mail order the rest.  In spite of that, St Louis area hobby shops started to decline. 

When I moved to Austin in 2000, there were six hobby shops that I knew of.  Now there are two Hobbytowns.  That is for a million person marketing area. My hobby shop visits amount to going to Mike's when I go up to Dallas, and Schaffer's when I go back to the St. Louis area. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2013, 06:53:01 AM »
My closest LHS is 70 miles away. He carries a fantastic supply of RC planes, RC cars, trains, rockets, crafts, and just about anything else associated with crafts and hobbies. Little to no cl stuff outside of an occasional kit or ARF. All sorts of fuel, but no Super Fuel and no Fox engines. OS, Enya, Saito, Norvell, and Quadra. Charlie does keep an excellent supply of balsa, props, glues, covering materials, paints an so on. I have been doing business with him for thirty or so years but when he doesn't have what I need, mail order is my only choice.

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2013, 08:55:20 AM »
America's Hobby Center was there forever.  Back in the late 1940s to early 1950s I ordered quite a bit from them, as the nearest hobby shop (very good one) was 60 miles away.  I was out of modeling from 1961 to about 1975.  When I got back in the hobby, the big complaint was discount mail order killing local hobby shops.  There were still a number of hobby shops in the St. Louis area.  I decided to spend $300 a year at local hobby shops and mail order the rest.  In spite of that, St Louis area hobby shops started to decline. 

When I moved to Austin in 2000, there were six hobby shops that I knew of.  Now there are two Hobbytowns.  That is for a million person marketing area. My hobby shop visits amount to going to Mike's when I go up to Dallas, and Schaffer's when I go back to the St. Louis area. 


The old AHC add was the first thing I looked for when I got back into the hobby about 10 years ago.  I do miss their catalog - it listed about any kit or engine that was available for C/L back then.

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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2013, 11:30:38 AM »
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My question is what has happened to cause the demise of the local hobby shop?  In recent years there seems to have been a massive closing of retail hobby stores all over the country and if you do find one they are sparsely stocked.
Is the younger generation so involved in computer games that they have no interest.  Even in the RC club that I belong to I would say the average age is over 60.  Whatever the reason, I think it is sad.
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I disliked ARFs but now I don't. I love building and being retired for 17 years, I can not find time to really build. Maintenance of old machines keeps me busy, plus boat, plus maintaining other investments and this  %^@, S?P,, D>K, y1 frapping computer.
When I left USAF for United Airlines, Mar. 1968, I went to ORD. 2 years later, it looked like I was going to get furloughed. I needed something to sustain family so I and a neighbor that liked boats opened Aero Sports & Crafts in Mt. Prospect, IL right on NW Highway. Need a BOOK here!  y1
Highlights are his Boat folks flocked, my CL folks came, and my FF buddies came and then I learned that if I wanted to succeed then I better learn to fly RC and fast. I did, but flew some CL and FF until mid '70s.
Some College kids down in Champaign IL were able to start a mail-order with kits and engines and stuff they were getting direct from mfgers. This supplier became known as TOWER Hobbies. Later as they were hurting, and about to go out, the giant hobby supplier B. Paul in Philadelphia came to their rescue, via a manager and everything needed to get a real business going. I knew some stuff because B. Paul was so big and when I had lay-overs in Phil. I did do business there. With a giant and real management soon there came a wholesell department known as "Great Planes". While the word  D>K was that the two main persons at GP/Tower had a falling out, I never believed such. They just wanted more thus Horrizon Hobby was born.

With the big run into RC during the '70s, CL and FF was a failure as far as the Local H/S was concerned. Hey I almost got into real trouble as I was importing a Japanese Radio called "Hinode" without FCC approval. I paid $100 for the unit and sold them for $150. I couldn't get enough. I learned to fly RC with one. FCC finally said NO MORE. mw~ I said OK, Thank You SIR!  #^
All the government's new operations that were surfacing at the time created unneeded expenses plus the fact that RCers new to the model hobby were NOT like the OLD GUARDs (CL, FF, and older RC MODELERS) as the new crowds were not adverse to shoplifting, bad checks, and such. Some part time hired help were caught with their sticky fingers in the till. For you youngsters there were no computer registers back then for small stores.

Of course partnerships have their problems and when I had an opportunity I closed Aero Sports as I felt that any future furlough would not get to me so I preferred the time off to play with RC and some CL.

Great "PAINS" and Horizon started a buy out of all the kit mfgers. in the US. Soon they controlled the industry throughout. Now as things have progressed they are getting a taste of their own medicine. I don't cry for them.

Now look at a CL profile "Kit" price. 30-40 times of the $2.95 Ringmaster kit in the store when I was a CL person. I cannot even conceive of buying one. CL Stunt kits at $150 - $195. I can sit down draw up some lines and cut some balsa and for less than $20 have an airplane ready to fly. One is now on the bench waiting for finishing and it will sport an Evolution .60.

Tie all this into the fact that most kids don't have a place where to build. Moms and pops (I have 11 grandkids and 1 great grandson) keep them so smothered with activities I wonder how they survive at all. They also smother them with individual computer war games so M & P don't have to mind them when not in school or some dumb activity such as dance, football,  cell phones, baseball and all that malarkey. Heck I had enough without such stuff. Growing up in the country on 40 acres and being close to open forests with fish laden creeks, I liked fishing, hunting, modeling, picking cotton (age 7-11) cutting timber 12 to 14, then spending summers on contract jobs TX, AK, LA, NJ, and British Columbia, then USAF Aviation Cadets at 19. Where has it all gone to?  Z@@ZZZ

So folks when you wonder about Hobby Shops, they are a dying breed because outside cars and trains, there is no money in it outside the big suppliers dealing directly with the (deleted) people. You might notice that even these folks are in a world of hurt these days. They too shall pass away.
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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 07:34:57 PM »
Hobby shops disappeared because they didn't adopt an appropriate business model for the changing times.

In the 50s and 60s it was hard not to find someone flying control line on any local field.  Want to learn to build or fly?  Ask one of the other kids at the field.  The hobby shop only had to supply the stuff needed to build and fly.

Roll forward 20 years.  Noise, lack of flying sites, cultural change, and other impacts (e.g., the "wave" has passed) cause a decline in participation.  But the hobby shop still assumed that all they had to do was stock materials and equipment.  But, who was doing the job of introducing new potential participants into the hobby and teaching them the basics?  Not the hobby shop!

The hobby shop needs to adopt a business model similar to that of the stained glass store.  Go into any stain glass store and you'll find that they regularly teach classes - from beginning to advanced.  They know that no one out there is teaching how to do stain glass - they have to develop their own clientele if they want to sell to them.  They have to generate their own market.  A different business model is needed for a changed market.  Its no longer 1955 (and hasn't been for a long time) - so why hasn't there been a change in the approach of the local hobby shop?

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2013, 08:12:30 AM »
If someone wants to see what can be done with a hobby shop, go to Carrollton, TEXAS and visit Mike's Hobby Shop.   Indoor road racing,  indoor RC planes and helicoptors.   And I wonder if they would set up an area for Larry Renger's  ET-1 electric CL.   No noise and no exhaust fumes.   
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2013, 02:22:17 PM »
Mr. Cain.  Most writers described the problem correctly.  You provided a wealth of information that I found very interesting.  Thanks.

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2013, 04:15:48 PM »
L.O.L.!  Mr Cain, you have made a pretty decent summary of the "global" aspect but Mr Richlen obviously never owned or operated a hobby shop!  I say that because I do, own and operate a hobby shop.  Business model, haaaa .... we have a generation of good, eager to learn kids with a generation of parents who have them involved with so much ready-to-go stuff that the vast majority never get to know what it is to build, create, think through problems and failures, and savor the pleasure and praise of accomplishing something as noisy and messy as building and flying models be they free flight, control line or radio.  Instead, it's get'em a geewhiz, glitzy, ready-to-go, out of the box and instant gratification cause when it breaks there's the trash can and let's go buy another one.  How can I say this???  I see it nearly everyday!  "I don't wanna' build ...." .... "I can't build....", "I don't have time ....", "I didn't know how to .... so can you teach (him/her) ...." !!  Worse yet, folks seem to think that I want to teach, mentor, babysit, and or discipline their kids while they "run some errands .... I THINK NOT!!  Have I taught kids to fly, yes and some adults too but can I get those same adults to spend time sharing that knowledge with other kids .... haaaa! At least not on a regular basis!  You see, mom and pop businesses need a steady, daily flow of customers, regular steady, hobbyists, modelers, and crafters.  Once a year and every other "blue moon" just doesn't help pay the bills and the folks at Horizon and Great Planes want their money every time an order is placed along with the gas and electric company, the insurance company, the landlord etcetera, etcetera.  Business model .... haaahaaahaaa  I wanna' be like Wal-Mart .... they don't teach a thing .... they just sell, lots of cheap, disposable stuff and make plenty of money doing it!!

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2013, 08:17:49 PM »
Mr. Carter:

Thanks for making my point!

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2013, 08:51:38 PM »
The senior Braniff Darnell, Gordon, had a son who became an airline Captain, Gordon, and all the Darnells afterwards flew with airlines, seven or eight of them.....except one.

Mike

Mike's has grown from a really small shop into a huge complex. About all I know about his success is his work ethic, he never stops. And his associates at the shop know their business, and are always ready to help, soldering, designing, fixin', winning NATs Championships when on vacation, etc, you name it.  And to add to Doc's list above, Mike also has added outdoor road racing. He stays up with the times. He organizes and runs the competitions that keep customers coming through his doors. Finally, in maintaining worktables and space for the car racers, one can see dozens and dozens of parents with their children enjoying their hobby, every day.

I was lured into Mike's by his sign that read, "Control Line Spoken Here".   (disclaimer: I don't work for and am not in any way compensted for my endorsement of Mike's, I'm just glad he's there!)   :)    dg

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2013, 09:51:09 PM »
Dale it would be great if we had someone like that in New Orleans.  Unfortunately we do not.

Mike

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2013, 09:53:13 PM »
Look at Best Buy closing all them stores. People look there and buy online. Same thing with hobby shops.

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2013, 07:12:55 AM »
Dale it would be great if we had someone like that in New Orleans.  Unfortunately we do not.

Mike

Wasn't there a good hobby shop right in the city, in or near the Garden District?
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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2013, 12:59:57 PM »
The senior Braniff Darnell, Gordon, had a son who became an airline Captain, Gordon, and all the Darnells afterwards flew with airlines, seven or eight of them.....except one.

Mike

Mike's has grown from a really small shop into a huge complex. About all I know about his success is his work ethic, he never stops. And his associates at the shop know their business, and are always ready to help, soldering, designing, fixin', winning NATs Championships when on vacation, etc, you name it.  And to add to Doc's list above, Mike also has added outdoor road racing. He stays up with the times. He organizes and runs the competitions that keep customers coming through his doors. Finally, in maintaining worktables and space for the car racers, one can see dozens and dozens of parents with their children enjoying their hobby, every day.

I was lured into Mike's by his sign that read, "Control Line Spoken Here".   (disclaimer: I don't work for and am not in any way compensted for my endorsement of Mike's, I'm just glad he's there!)   :)    dg

WHAT DALE SAID X 10!

This shop is the best and the people are even better. They will set you up with what is right for you and your level of expertise no matter what the modeling hobby you are into happens to be.  From the flying Red Bull can to a 1/3 IMAC plane, over to the helicopters and the Drones, then around to the cars (so many cars and even more car parts), glow and gas engines along with electric motors, they have it all!  I love going there.  It is a blast.  On Saturdays there is indoor road course, and off road course racing, along with outdoor off road racing.  Plus there is indoor helicopters and planes!  It is non stop action.  Just like the owner!  If you are ever in DFW area look this place up and pay them a visit.   
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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2013, 05:50:23 PM »
Wasn't there a good hobby shop right in the city, in or near the Garden District?

Not that I am aware of Steve.  We had one on Veteran's Blvd but they have since gone away...

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2013, 06:06:53 PM »
Mike,

Hobby Hut did not go away.  It is off old hammond highway in Hammond.  Mostly Rc but there is cl stuff.  If you wish it can be ordered.  It has a web site as well.

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Re: Local Hobby Shops
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2013, 09:55:57 PM »
Thanks Donald...I did not know it was there

Mike

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