Legacy Models .40 and .60 sizes

[Phil Spillman]

I'd like to know if the Legacy designs are N-30 eleiible?

[Crist Rigotti]

I know for sure the Legacy 40 was designed in late 2000.  I built one of the two prototypes in early 2001.

[Dan McEntee]

   This is one reason I think M-30 should just be eliminated. We have the PAMPA skill classes, and we don't need another class to fly modern stunt designs. Think about this for a minute. When was the last "modern" stunt model that any one released for general consumption?  It has been a while!! It won't be long and almost every kit ever released will be N-30 eligible!! It's a redundant class. This question gets asked a lot by those just looking for another class to fly and maybe an easy trophy. If you want to fly "vintage" , then fly Classic or Super 70's. Yes, you will have to probably buy or build a model for it, but that is i n the spirit of the event. The fact that this question gets asked a lot indicates a lot people just are not aware of any of the history of the event. We are shrinking in numbers, dying off and no one taking our places, so kit makers are not putting out kits that no one will buy. If you want a double duty airplane, build or buy a Shark 45, and then fly that in PAMPA, Classic or Super 70's. N-30 is just PAMPA stunt with no skill classes and really serves no purpose for preserving history. If you want to have another class to fly modern designs in and one or two entrants, just call it "Outlaw Stunt" with no rules or regulations.

    If you would check the forum sections, you will find that there is a N-30 section. A lot of work has been done by Ty Marccuci and some others to compile the listings. Some of those lists are redundant also. But this list was updated just last year in June:

      https://stunthanger.com/smf/nostalgia-30/alphabetic-grouping-n-30/

  Again Ty has  put a lot of work in to update this, just so we have a list of modern stunt models. Check out this listing and the others closely. It was brought to my attention that the lists had not bee updated since 2010, but if a person would just expend some effort and read, they would see that the list was just updated last year. I see no reason to ever update it again. Thank you again to Ty Marccuci for all his research on this.

    So to answer the original, no the Legacy models are not even close to being legal for N-30. The legacy came out in Aviation Modeler International in a two part article by Alan Brickhaus in October and November of 2003, I do believe it was. I don't think the .40 was ever published before Brodak put out the kit. Plans were out there, I got a set of plans for it from him that Watt Moore had produced, but I'm not sure of the date, but they both are modern stunt models.

  Now, flame away!! I really don't give a damn.  This is how I see the situation There really are not enough of us around to support all these classes.  If you really have to have a trophy, learn to fly better!!

    Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

     PS To Ad: here is the link to Alan Brickhaus' profile in the Stunthanger H.O.F. with more information. it shows a review of the Legacy in AMI Magazine in 2002.::  https://stunthanger.com/smf/stunt-hangar-hall-of-fame/autobiography-of-allen-brickhaus/

[Leonard Bourel]

Ya Sorry Phil The legacy is not there yet However I must say long live Nos 30 and any stunt event that brings stunt modelers out to play I love em all I never met a stunt event I didn't like

[Tim Wescott]

Ya Sorry Phil The legacy is not there yet However I must say long live Nos 30 and any stunt event that brings stunt modelers out to play I love em all I never met a stunt event I didn't like

The last time I saw a plane flown in N-30 it was Paul Walker's Atlantis, and I was flying it.  I flew it specifically because I knew no one else would be flying and I'd get a trophy.  I did that because I'd just come off of physical therapy and I wanted something to thank my physical therapist with.  Moreover, the Atlantis is basically the plane that he hacked into an Impact before he built the first pretty Impact, so in hands more competent than mine it would be capable of winning in Expert.

I felt so guilty about my self-esteem prize that I just left it buried under crap on my workbench.

You can grab a July 1991 Flying Models and build a 1st-generation Impact.  It's very close in "numbers" to the modern planes, it could probably get you to top 20 at the Nats if you're that good, and it's N-30 eligible.

At least around here, N-30 is pretty much dead.  In the 2019 Northwest Regionals (chosen because it was the last pre-COVID year, and the Regionals is our big contest) there were a dozen planes in Classic, and no N-30.

So, maybe it's a cool idea, but I think that stunt design has stabilized to the point where at least around here it is irrelevant.