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Offline Motorman

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lead out wire
« on: December 28, 2017, 04:57:45 PM »
Who has .032" 7 strand stainless cable? I checked MBS, StuntHanger hobby, Tower and google they've got .027 or 036 which won't fit in 1/16th tubing. I just opened 2 packs of .032" from Brodak and they measured .027". I'm bummed I can't work on my wing now.

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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 07:20:41 PM »

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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2017, 07:55:49 PM »
Here is another option.  A few planes around these parts have been built with this cable. 
This 1/32" (.031")  3x7 cable is very flexible which is nice to help prevent the random hanger rash induced kink in your leadouts.

- 3x7 hollow core has three strands of wire rope with seven wires in each strand, formed helically around a hollow core
- 3x7 hollow core is flexible and fatigue-resistant

Loos Stainless Steel 302/304 Wire Rope, 3x7 Hollow Core, 1/32" Bare OD http://www.loosco.com/upload/pdf/SC03137.pdf

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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 08:30:32 PM »
Who has .032" 7 strand stainless cable?

I got several types from McMaster-Carr.
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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 09:07:25 PM »
  What is your concern with .027" cable" ? Do you really think the .005" would make a big difference? Remember, you are flying on .018" lines. Each lead out is nearly .010" larger.
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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2017, 07:34:01 AM »
I got several types from McMaster-Carr.

Howard, have you used any of those cables. I saw them on there but I was worried because they said they were stiff, not for lifting type and I didn't know how flexible they would be.

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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2017, 09:48:28 AM »
I use the .027" from McMaster Carr, it is rated at 110# breaking strength.  Flexiblity is good, just right for me.  Its 7 strand, not 3x7.  Comes from Loos Cable, confirmed this with Loos.
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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2017, 09:56:48 AM »
I used them. I got different typesó maybe not all from McMó to pick the smoothest. The 7-strand stuff was pretty much all the same.
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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2017, 01:12:13 PM »
You can also get Sevenstrand (brand) cable from Cabela's, but the problem is that they rate it by pound test and not diameter. If you have a Cabela's store nearby, take a micrometer and you're good. If you have to order online, not so much. Make sure you do NOT get the plastic coated version.  D>K Steve
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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 08:49:52 PM »
I found out the Brodak lead out wire I have is 1x7. Also found .031" 1x7 on Mcmaster-Carr 50ft for $3.50  #3461T61

Also found out if you order two things and, one comes from the Chicago warehouse, you get two shipping charges. Glad I called, had to cancel the Jersey part of my order that was just extra stuff.


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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 05:29:53 PM »
Regarding the stranded 0.031 cable:  1 X 7 and 7 X 7 are available from sources such as McMaster-Carr.  Which of these two is preferred?

The 7 X 7 is more flexible but the strands are thinner.  Would it be more susceptible to individual strands fraying and breaking where it goes thru the leadout guide?  As for the 1 X 7, it is stiffer and coarser.  Would it tend to "saw" thru the leadout guide, especially if the guide were nylon?

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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 05:42:51 PM »
This company has some stainless multi-strand cable.
I've used it many times in industry - top quality stuff.

Bob Z.

  https://www.savacable.com/pages/LowStretchCable.html




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Re: lead out wire
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 05:58:33 PM »
The 1x7 is not stiff at all. The cable Brodak sells is 1x7 and I've used it on many planes with their nylon adjustable lead out guide for years with no perceivable wear.

I just got my 100' spool of .031" 1x7 stainless from Mcmaster Carr and it's wonderful stuff. Enough for about 15 planes.


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