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Offline Richard Hutlet

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Patterns
« on: January 02, 2015, 01:13:33 PM »
Hello. Does anyone have a link on the patterns that have to be flown in the competitions?
I've looked here and on line and can not seem to get a definitive answer. Maybe I'm asking the
wrong question. Are the patterns flown based on size, class etc. I'm assuming there must
be a list somewhere that explains how the competitions work as far as judging etc.
Lastly does Canada have anything as far as National contests? Provincial? C/L flying
does not seem to be as big up here as it is down south.

Thanks

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 02:05:47 PM »
Richard,  go to the AMA website,  modelaircraft.org.  Click on the tab for Competition and Events.  Click on 'rules'.  Select C/L Precision Aerobatics.

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2015, 02:06:32 PM »
I'm going to answer for (mostly) the US, and then some Canadian can jump in and tell us all how it's different:

Even if you guys fly only the FAI pattern, the two patterns are basically the same -- there are some details here and there with how many level laps you need to do, and which maneuver adds the most to your score is different, but you're flying the same tricks.  Here in the Pacific Northwest we have a couple of Canadians that come down and regularly whup nearly all of us except for Paul Walker and occasionally Howard Rush, so whatever you do up there must be right.

The AMA pattern can be found in the AMA rulebook, which you can find pretty quickly on the AMA website (some inspired spelunking on the FAI website will get you the F2B rules including patterns).

The only difference among patterns under AMA rules is that the beginner pattern has a bunch of maneuvers omitted, and one maneuver modified (the wingover).  All the other patterns -- Intermediate, Advanced, Expert, and Open -- use exactly the same pattern and scoring.

PAMPA has a description of the pattern on their web site, which I found useful when I was learning it:
http://www.pampacl.org/resources/documents/stunt-pattern.html

I hope this helps, and I hope that someone will point out the differences, if any, between US practices and Canadian ones.
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Re: Patterns
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2015, 02:11:05 PM »
You can go to the Model Aeronautics Association Canada website (www.maac.ca) Also I am happy to help you as much as I can.

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 02:25:55 PM »
Hi Richard,
John's advice is good. See the MAAC web site.

I happen to be on the MAAC control line committee representing the SK area and will do all I can to assist you.

I will send you a Personal Message via the service on this site and you can reply and send me your email address for private communications. I can then keep you up to date on what is happening in the West along with hobby shop info.

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 02:53:22 PM »

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2015, 03:02:59 PM »
What? No mention of the Old Time Stunt pattern?

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2015, 03:19:39 PM »
Richard,

Looks like you are in good hands.  John is the MAAC Control Line Precision Aerobatics Committee Chair and Orv is your control line zone rep.  There is lots going on north of the 49th, we're just not vocal enough about it.  Dig around the MAAC site it has all the regs there. http://www.maac.ca/e_docs.php  look under Rule Books.

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2015, 04:18:30 PM »

Offline Richard Hutlet

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 04:45:15 PM »
Thanks fellas. Got a couple of very helpful emails and I believe I have
everything I need to learn this stuff now. Happy building. Ordered the Vector 40
and a new LA46. I hope to start the build from the kit in a few weeks. Again thanks for
all the input. Really excited about getting back into this but most if what I've learned
was at least 20 years ago. And being self taught probably should eliminate 75% of that
knowledge  :D. It's nice to hear from people with such a passion for the hobby. Hope that
I get proficient enough some day to be able to share some advice with beginners like myself.

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Re: Patterns
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2015, 10:36:32 PM »
I've attended contests in Richmond, BC and Edmonton, AB. Except for a year where they were coerced into using a 0-10 point score per maneuver, they always claim to use AMA rules. Not that rules need be consulted very often.

Basically, there are 3 patterns, OTS, Beginner, and the full pattern. The FAI rules are different in some areas, but the actual maneuvers are the same as the AMA.  H^^ Steve
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