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Title: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 06, 2016, 12:44:50 AM
Feedback on the first production run of LA46 sets has been really good.

I have sufficient requests to proceed with a second production run as of 25th July.

The sets will again include piston/liner/rod/pin/head/shim. The head is mandatory as I've increased the liner thickness at the top for extra strength during production and service. The revised port timing (as opposed to stock) and angling is giving great results.

Brian
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Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Arlan McKee on August 06, 2016, 06:25:04 AM
Brian,

I measure .037 and if you do them put me down for 2 sets.

Arlan McKee
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Perry Rose on August 06, 2016, 02:50:43 PM
I got .0359 in one spot with a ball mic. .9838/.9840 for the o. d. near the top.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: proparc on August 06, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Part of makes your parts so good, is that they are complete. I would definitely include the rod and pin in ALL sets so everyone knows they are going to get a complete ready to go solution.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 06, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
Good point and I agree mate.

Part of makes your parts so good, is that they are complete. I would definitely include the rod and pin in ALL sets so everyone knows they are going to get a complete ready to go solution.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 06, 2016, 08:24:57 PM
Well, that's a similar wall thickness to the Fox 36X (the thinnest we've done) and they have been successful.

So guys let me know if you are a definite yes to this project and we'll see if we get the numbers to make it happen.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Phil Spillman on August 06, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Hi Brian, Really a super idea! Please put me down for one complete set.

Phil Spillman
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Arlan McKee on August 06, 2016, 11:39:20 PM
I got .0359 in one spot with a ball mic.
Perry,
Did you get .037 in any spots?
I'm just curious if there is that much difference on that radius between a vernier caliper and a ball mic.
I'm no machinist.
Thanks,

Arlan
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Perry Rose on August 07, 2016, 05:26:23 AM
I didn't check lots of places. I got .040 with my digital calipers which made me use  the mic.The production tolerances and dimensions are not known to me.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 07, 2016, 08:27:04 AM
I failed to mention these will be stunt 4/2 timed using the same timing as I did with the ST51 sets.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Paul Taylor on August 07, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
Can we get a price?

Also just asking but should a few be made and tested to make sure they are as good as your other products?
Just asking cause would hate for them to go out only to find a issue.

I might even send a old P&L to you for comparison.

I would be interested if know for sure they work And the cost.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: phil c on August 07, 2016, 05:26:55 PM
Brian, you can put me down for 2

Phil C
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on August 07, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
I bet the guys into Fox 35 speed would be interested if you  offered them an ABC setup like the ones FOX used to offer.
 Maybe your ABC setp for the 36X P/L can be modified to fit the Stunt case?
Too bad no one near to me ( AlbanyNY) playing with Fox speed.
Lyle
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 07, 2016, 06:08:07 PM
The Fox 35 racing guys have been onto me Lyle.

If I do the LA46 as a full set piston/liner/rod/pin the price would be around $120 to $130 Aussie dollars. ($92-$100US)

If I do just piston/liner sets they would be more around $105 Aussie dollars. ($81US)
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 12, 2016, 07:35:18 AM
A number of people have sent pm's expressing concerns that changing the port timing to proven stunt numbers will bring a loss of power.  (The stock timing is 142 exhaust and 116 transfers.)

This may be true in the case of outright peak 2 cycle power.

But with proven stunt timing figures the engine will deliver good - controllable stunt runs. If more power is sought a larger venturi or more nitro will give that whilst maintaining the quality of run characteristics.

I've just received a temporary sample engine to look at and make final decisions. So far enough people have committed to an order for me to be able to do an initial production run if I decide to proceed.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: frank williams on August 12, 2016, 09:17:14 AM
Brian
I've marvelled at the LA46 for years.  The LA46 numbers are terrible ... it shouldn't work as a good stunt motor....... but for some reason they work really well.  The run is not a fullout two cycle..... its a really good stunt run as is,for almost everyone.  I don't know why, I wouldn't have thought so but they work with the high timing and big blowdown.  Go figure.  I don't know if anyone has ever tried one with normal timing.  Somehow I think an LA46 with normal timing wouldn't be an LA46.
Frank
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Gerald Arana on August 12, 2016, 09:24:05 AM
Brian,

Put me down for one set (LA 46)

Thank you, Jerry
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Tom Luciano on August 12, 2016, 09:31:30 AM
Brian,

I'll take 2 sets.

Thank you!
Tom
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Chris Belcher on August 12, 2016, 10:18:49 AM
I have modified 2 LA 46s by simply but CAREFULLY filing the transfer ports with a flat needle file, measuring the height first with calipers and then removing 25 thousandths leaving the roof angle at 90 degrees and the same height all the way across. This is exactly what Derek Pickard was doing and I found this mod in an article he produced back in the..well back a while ago. There is minimal power loss but that was not an issue FOR ME. The motor now runs in a solid 4 and just breaks at the tops lightly (depending on prop, compr, venturi size etc) but the real deal here is...it does this EVERY time. Derek even states in his article that "right every time counts a lot". I am NOT saying the stock motor doesn't run right every time for everybody...it just didn't FOR ME. As far as stunt timing for Brian's P/L sets as long as we don't expect a wet 2 run and more of a 4/2 run I know I would be VERY pleased as my hack at the motor produced exactly the results I wanted. His "mods" no doubt would be an even greater improvement. I can only attest to modified timing. Mike Scott, Doug Moon and Chris Rigotti can attest to the motor runs i am getting on this motor....consistent is the best word I think. Again, not that others have not gotten consistent runs on a stock motor, I just didn't. NOW...FUEL CONSUMPTION!!! That's the real caveat...stock I could do the pattern on 3.25 to 3.5 ozs of 5/22 Powermaster...that is amazing to me...a pattern with 10 laps to spare on a .46 motor on 3.5 ozs pulling a 48 oz Cardinal!!! Incredible. Modified motor uses 5 ozs....every bit of it, same fuel (with 1 head shim). Just my 2 cents...if Brian makes these i will buy several for all, well not all, I would leave some stock, my 6 LA46s.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 12, 2016, 04:41:07 PM
I'm going to look at angling the ports a little towards non exh side of the cylinder. It won't be much help on fuel economy because the liner is so thin and any angle on the port sides won't have much effect. But every little bit counts in trying to stop the fresh charge getting dragged out the exh.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: tim lackey on August 12, 2016, 05:31:02 PM
Hi, Brian
put me down for 2 sets, I'm hoping you do the complete package.
Thanks Tim
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Al Ferraro on August 12, 2016, 06:34:10 PM
I measured the LA 46 liner and got .039 for the side and .033 for the top flange which is thinner than the .25. The engine that I was working with had a.015 shim under the head.
  I keep reading that guys put an extra head shim to get a better stunt run. It would be good to know what the total shim height is that every one is using and make the liner flange bigger, say like .058 and only use one .005 shim under the head.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brett Buck on August 12, 2016, 06:55:59 PM
Brian
I've marvelled at the LA46 for years.  The LA46 numbers are terrible ... it shouldn't work as a good stunt motor....... but for some reason they work really well.  The run is not a fullout two cycle..... its a really good stunt run as is,for almost everyone.  I don't know why, I wouldn't have thought so but they work with the high timing and big blowdown.  Go figure.  I don't know if anyone has ever tried one with normal timing.  Somehow I think an LA46 with normal timing wouldn't be an LA46.

      Most people run them just as they come. There's A LOT more to getting a decent run than the supposedly "correct" timing numbers.

      Brett
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 12, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
I'm with you there Al,  If I proceed I intend to beef things up as much as I can. The liner thickness is similar to the Fox 36X and they were ok.

I measured the LA 46 liner and got .039 for the side and .033 for the top flange which is thinner than the .25. The engine that I was working with had a.015 shim under the head.
  I keep reading that guys put an extra head shim to get a better stunt run. It would be good to know what the total shim height is that every one is using and make the liner flange bigger, say like .058 and only use one .005 shim under the head.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Randy Cuberly on August 13, 2016, 12:50:46 AM
I'm going to look at angling the ports a little towards non exh side of the cylinder. It won't be much help on fuel economy because the liner is so thin and any angle on the port sides won't have much effect. But every little bit counts in trying to stop the fresh charge getting dragged out the exh.

Brian, I have modified many LA46's over the years (something around 60) and discovered that the stock timing with the ports angled back 60 degrees away from the exhaust port did in fact significantly reduce fuel consumption on most of the engines.  Also I'm convinced that it gives steadier runs in the mid range.  Of course that's only an opinion based on running and flying many of them.  There are of course other factors involved in fuel consumption but it does work on nearly every engine I reworked.  There are still many of my engines floating around and they typically run very well.  I never tried milder port timing but suspect it would do exactly as expected and as you say.  I also experimented with a number of different head configurations but never found one that was enough of an improvement to justify the work.
Given the quality of work you put into piston cylinder fit I'm sure these will be great runners.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 13, 2016, 02:54:51 AM
Thanks Randy, that's good to know it's worth trying to direct the fresh charge away from the exh port.

Also good to know it's not really worth experimenting with heads.



Brian, I have modified many LA46's over the years (something around 60) and discovered that the stock timing with the ports angled back 60 degrees away from the exhaust port did in fact significantly reduce fuel consumption on most of the engines.  Also I'm convinced that it gives steadier runs in the mid range.  Of course that's only an opinion based on running and flying many of them.  There are of course other factors involved in fuel consumption but it does work on nearly every engine I reworked.  There are still many of my engines floating around and they typically run very well.  I never tried milder port timing but suspect it would do exactly as expected and as you say.  I also experimented with a number of different head configurations but never found one that was enough of an improvement to justify the work.
Given the quality of work you put into piston cylinder fit I'm sure these will be great runners.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Brian Gardner on August 22, 2016, 01:23:15 AM
Guys, I've not forgotten about this. I've just been busy on other things and having a bit of a bad run with my health.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Air Ministry . on August 22, 2016, 02:25:10 AM
IF the LA 25 set FITS the FP 25 ! , Does the LA 46 Fit the 40 ?

and the LA fit the FP ??

Which Fits the FSR ! ( with gudgeon pin circlips ! )

Thus we'd get a ABC 40 FSR ABS set IF the 46 fits the 40 , ad infinitum .
seen the 40 Rod's same 40 max , FP , & FSR ! thinking the FS is a recased FSR , so that'd benifit too .

a can of worms , simplified , Does a LA 46 liner fit a LA 40 CASE ! ? thanks . H^^
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Gerald Arana on August 22, 2016, 10:33:25 AM
IF the LA 25 set FITS the FP 25 ! , Does the LA 46 Fit the 40 ?

and the LA fit the FP ??

Which Fits the FSR ! ( with gudgeon pin circlips ! )

Thus we'd get a ABC 40 FSR ABS set IF the 46 fits the 40 , ad infinitum .
seen the 40 Rod's same 40 max , FP , & FSR ! thinking the FS is a recased FSR , so that'd benifit too .

a can of worms , simplified , Does a LA 46 liner fit a LA 40 CASE ! ? thanks . H^^


No.

The OS VF 40-46 are interchangeable.

Jerry
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Motorman on August 22, 2016, 10:57:27 AM
having a bit of a bad run with my health.

Nothing serious I hope. Get well soon.

MM
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets?
Post by: Randy Cuberly on August 22, 2016, 11:19:32 AM
Guys, I've not forgotten about this. I've just been busy on other things and having a bit of a bad run with my health.

Nothing is worth taking chances with your health.  Take care of yourself Brian...modeling will still be here when you're well.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Re-confirm please.
Post by: Brian Gardner on November 13, 2016, 05:16:35 AM
OK Guys,

After a lot of consideration I'm prepared to proceed with these, but there is an increased cost/requirement.

We'll be ok with the thin wall of the liner but I want to increase the thickness of the top flange to ensure we can maintain a truly round bore and maintain the quality that everyone is acustomed to with our ABC sets.

This means that a new head will be mandatory adding a cost of approx $28-$30AUD per set.

Those that have requested to be put on the list for these can you please confirm you are still in.

Brian

Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Al Ferraro on November 13, 2016, 06:14:23 AM
  3 for me.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Steve Lotz on November 13, 2016, 08:33:55 AM
I'm still in but I don't remember how many sets I wanted and I can't find the thread.

Steve Lotz
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Gerald Arana on November 13, 2016, 09:48:53 AM
Brian,

I'm sorry to bow out but it is a must do for me. I hope your health is on an upswing and you get much better ASAP!

Happy Holidays to you mate, Jerry
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Balsa Butcher on November 13, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
That's OK Jerry, I'll take your place in line. Put me down for one set Brian...Thanks!  8)
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on November 13, 2016, 04:37:49 PM
Done Pete

That's OK Jerry, I'll take your place in line. Put me down for one set Brian...Thanks!  8)
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Paul Allen on November 14, 2016, 02:34:39 AM
Brian
       Yes, I will have a set please.
Paul Allen
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Tom Luciano on November 14, 2016, 04:28:16 AM
Brian,
 I'll commit to 1 set.


Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on June 26, 2017, 01:51:27 AM
These are ready. I'll be notifying everyone on the list in the coming week & requesting payment etc. Here's a preview :-)

Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on June 26, 2017, 03:37:49 AM
Been awhile. Am I on your list? I cant remember, lol!
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Mike Bufkin on June 26, 2017, 04:20:17 AM
Brian,
If you end up with any leftovers,I'll take a few.
Mike
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on June 26, 2017, 05:25:57 AM
Lyle, yes you are on the list mate.

Mike, there are some that are not yet reserved.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: tim lackey on June 26, 2017, 09:07:18 AM
Just wanted to confirm that I was still on the list.
Thanks
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Fredvon4 on June 26, 2017, 09:14:12 AM
Brian,

If there are enough not reserved

I would like one set

V/R
Fred von Gortler
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Chris Belcher on June 26, 2017, 09:24:18 AM
I'd like a set as well.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Randy Cuberly on June 26, 2017, 12:28:19 PM
Brian,
I don't remember if I got into this order or not, but I am definitely interested in two sets!

If possible I'll send PayPal right away for two sets.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Balsa Butcher on June 26, 2017, 04:10:05 PM
Looking good Brian, consider me re-confirmed.  ;D
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Mike Bufkin on June 26, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
Lyle, yes you are on the list mate.

Mike, there are some that are not yet reserved.
Yes
Let me have your PayPal
One set will be fine
Thanks
Mike
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Steve Scott on June 26, 2017, 08:13:48 PM
Brian,

I'd like to get in on the offer for 1 set if still available.  If so, PM me with any PayPal or other accepted payment means.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Alan Hansen on June 26, 2017, 10:21:33 PM
Hi Brian , Alan from Thunderbirds in Queensland would like one set, if any Left. Please  ;D

Regards Alan Hansen
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on June 27, 2017, 07:09:01 AM
Tim Lackey, yes you are on the list for 2 sets, I'll contact you shortly as I get through the list

Freg Von Gortler, I'll add you to the list for the next batch

Chris Belcher, I'll add you to the list for the next batch

Randy Cuberly, I'll add you to the list for the next batch

Pete Cunha, yes you are on the list for 1 set

Mike Bufkin, I'll add you to the list for the next batch

Steve Scott, I'll add you to the list for the next batch.

Brian
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Randy Cuberly on June 27, 2017, 11:30:03 AM
Thanks Brian!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Fredvon4 on June 27, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Thank You Brian

Fred von Gortler
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on June 28, 2017, 12:33:22 AM
I'll add you to the list for the next batch Alan.

Hi Brian , Alan from Thunderbirds in Queensland would like one set, if any Left. Please  ;D

Regards Alan Hansen
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Alan Hansen on June 28, 2017, 01:14:52 AM
Thankyou Brian, I will have two please.

Regards Alan H
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Al Ferraro on July 23, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
     Hi Brian, I received my order last week and wanted to thank you for supplying me with top quality parts. The LA 46 parts you made are like pieces of fine jewelry. Every engine that I have set up with your parts in the past turns it into a super performer and I cant wait to work on the LA 46.
  Thanks Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Walter Hicks on July 24, 2017, 02:11:38 AM
Thank you Brian for the excellent LA 46 Piston ,Liner and Head.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2v98cq8.jpg)
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brad LaPointe on July 24, 2017, 05:45:05 AM
Re : LA .46 abc p&l .My first flights were on my old TF Tudor 11 " break in plane" ARF. Oh my that engine-is now one serious piece of kit .
 After six runs on the test stand it felt about right for a soft flight . The four stroke growl is impressive, on the second flight I set engine to a just breaking 2-4 . After four flights I'm looking for a better home for this baby .
Mileage is better than stock already,and it was good before !

Well done Brian .
Brad LaPointe
MAAC 5418
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Chris Belcher on July 24, 2017, 09:43:35 AM
Chris Belcher in for one set
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Gerald Arana on July 24, 2017, 02:40:06 PM
Brian,

I've had several after thoughts and changed my mine (what's left of it) again.

Please put me back on the list for a P/L and head.

Thank you, Jerry

Pete, I want to see yours this Sat. if you (or I) go to Woodland.

Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Walter Hicks on July 24, 2017, 02:59:35 PM
Jerry I will bring mine to Woodland.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on July 24, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
I've got enough numbers/takers for a second production run of these. So I'll get started on that.

Brian
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Mike Scholtes on July 25, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
(Shameless plug follows)

I got two LA46 sets of P&L and heads from Brian and they are works of art. Nobody who orders a set will be disappointed. Seems everyone named "Brian" in Oz makes great model stuff.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: BYU on July 25, 2017, 04:57:26 PM
I've got enough numbers/takers for a second production run of these. So I'll get started on that.

Brian

Would you consider making HP 40 P&L sets like the ones Tom Hampshire uses?
It would make a bunch of us very happy.

Anyhow would like a set of the LA 46 if you can add me to the list.

Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Fred Quedenfeld jr on July 25, 2017, 05:09:08 PM
First one looks great Put me on the list for a 2nd set
Fred Quedenfeld
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Gerald Arana on July 25, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
Jerry I will bring mine to Woodland.

Excellent! Thanks Walter.

See you there, Jerry
Title: Re: LA46 ABC piston & liner sets? Please re-confirm
Post by: Brian Gardner on July 26, 2017, 01:59:33 AM
I don't want to hijack my own thread, so I'll start a new one,  but others have expressed interest in the HP40 before. Is Tom's stock?

Would you consider making HP 40 P&L sets like the ones Tom Hampshire uses?
It would make a bunch of us very happy.

Anyhow would like a set of the LA 46 if you can add me to the list.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Greg L Bahrman on July 26, 2017, 01:42:58 PM
Also interested in a couple of sets for la 46. i know i'm late.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on July 26, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
I'll add you to the list for the second production run Greg.

Also interested in a couple of sets for la 46. i know i'm late.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Peter Anglberger on July 27, 2017, 02:29:08 AM
Speaking of being late, any chance of two LA46 ABC sets for a 'Croweater'? Brian will understand this is a slang term for a South Australian but the North American majority on SH will not, hence the clarification.

Regards,
            Peter Anglberger
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on July 28, 2017, 12:40:38 AM
Hi Peter, I'll put you on the list for 2 sets in the second run of these.

Brian

Speaking of being late, any chance of two LA46 ABC sets for a 'Croweater'? Brian will understand this is a slang term for a South Australian but the North American majority on SH will not, hence the clarification.

Regards,
            Peter Anglberger
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Peter Anglberger on July 28, 2017, 02:33:01 AM
Thanks Brian
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on August 03, 2017, 06:17:29 AM
Brian, Please include me for one set of the LA .46 kit.   Thanks, T. Schaefer
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Al Ferraro on September 01, 2017, 07:31:43 PM
I just ran my LA46 with the Gardner piston, liner, and head set up for the first time today, and all I can say is it is one of the sweetest stunt engines I ever heard with great 4 stroking power and a soft 2 stroke break. The fuel mileage is better than my La 40. I agree with what Brad described about the engine run, it's awesome. I used the head gasket Brian supplyed with the parts. The liner even has the alignment hole to make the insulation fool proof.
 Guys will be dumping their electric setups when they see this.
Thanks Brain for the great work.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: mike londke on September 02, 2017, 07:02:55 AM
If its not too late I'd take 2 sets please.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on September 02, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
No problem Mike, I've added you to the list.

Brian


If its not too late I'd take 2 sets please.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Sean McEntee on September 02, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
Just came into possession of an LA46. Please add me to the list if able
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on September 03, 2017, 04:55:09 AM
No problem

Just came into possession of an LA46. Please add me to the list if able
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Mike Bufkin on September 03, 2017, 05:00:12 AM
Brian,
When would you like payment ?
Mike
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on September 03, 2017, 08:03:39 AM
Brian, You got my order, right?  Thanks, C.T. Schaefer
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Fredvon4 on September 03, 2017, 01:45:09 PM
Brian I have noted this in a few other of your BG P/C set threads---- that I am more than winning to pre- pay some so you have some working capitol

Since you do accept pay pal this is very easy for us to pre pay 100% or some portion you decide

I would hope all of us are old enough to understand that final costs and shipping are a moving target....well .....at least I do

Bottom line is...

IF YOU EVER need seed money to make a project happen--- WITHOUT depleting your personal retirement funds...just ask...most of us know the product and will respond properly
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on September 03, 2017, 10:26:32 PM
I'll request payment when I have them ready to ship as usual. I prefer it that way. Less chance of me making a mistake is the reason. I need to eliminate as much as possible any room for me doing dumb things when I'm not on my game.

C.T Schaefer, yes, you are on the list.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: badbill on September 04, 2017, 07:20:51 AM
Brian, What's the cost of a set?
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on September 05, 2017, 05:13:40 AM
Last production run they were $158 Australian dollars shipped. That includes piston/liner/rod/pin/head/shim

Brian, What's the cost of a set?
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: badbill on September 05, 2017, 06:24:30 AM
Last production run they were $158 Australian dollars shipped. That includes piston/liner/rod/pin/head/shim

Please put me down for a set on the next run. Thanks!
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Walter Hicks on September 28, 2017, 02:40:53 PM
Brian  please put down 1 set for Chuck Jenks ( a friend of mine) thanks
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on September 28, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
Done Bill & Walter.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Manuel Cortes on December 23, 2017, 03:48:00 AM
Hi Brian.
If it is not too late I´d like to order two sets for the LA 46.

Thanks.

Manuel.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Bootlegger on December 23, 2017, 12:48:46 PM

  Brian, I sent a P/M asking for two (2) sets with everything included, thanks and Merry Christmas...
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Gerald Schamp on December 23, 2017, 01:31:26 PM
I'd just be happy to find a couple of NIB LA .46 to purchase.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Allan Perret on December 23, 2017, 02:47:47 PM
If there is another run in the works, put me down for 2 sets.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on December 26, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
List updated huys.

Allan, at this point all 60 sets are spoken for, but you are the first on the next list. Should anyone pull out you'll be first in line.

Brian



If there is another run in the works, put me down for 2 sets.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Al Ferraro on December 26, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
 all 60 sets are spoken for, but you are the first on the next list. Should anyone pull out you'll be first in line.

Brian
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Hi Brian, just  confirming that you have me down for two sets.
Thanks Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on December 26, 2017, 07:54:27 PM
I sure do mate.


all 60 sets are spoken for, but you are the first on the next list. Should anyone pull out you'll be first in line.

Brian

Hi Brian, just  confirming that you have me down for two sets.
Thanks Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on December 26, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
The guys that already have them and are running them - how are they going? I guess very well due the the number of ppeople ordering additional sets :-)
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Allan Perret on December 26, 2017, 07:57:47 PM
Kinda makes you mad at the guy that ordered 5 sets 4 of which will be sold at his estate sale.
Not at all, he can do what he wants with his money..  And I will buy a dozen Stalker46's instead.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Allan Perret on December 26, 2017, 07:59:39 PM
List updated huys.

Allan, at this point all 60 sets are spoken for, but you are the first on the next list. Should anyone pull out you'll be first in line.

Brian
OK, thanks Brian.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Al Ferraro on December 28, 2017, 08:41:32 PM
The guys that already have them and are running them - how are they going? I guess very well due the the number of ppeople ordering additional sets :-)
Posted a video for you in the engine set up tips section.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on December 28, 2017, 09:33:01 PM
Thanks Al

Posted a video for you in the engine set up tips section.
Al
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on February 06, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
I'm hoping to have these ready to start shipping out in about 3 to 4 weeks.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Peter Nevai on February 06, 2018, 09:39:31 PM
I see references to the 4/2 run. Is this what these are are set up for? I'm more a constant velocity kind of guy.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on February 06, 2018, 11:27:36 PM
Yep, stunt timed for 4/2 switch. Would still work for a rich 2/2 style run. Superior materials & fits over stock.

I see references to the 4/2 run. Is this what these are are set up for? I'm more a constant velocity kind of guy.
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Peter Nevai on February 06, 2018, 11:46:48 PM
OKay line me up for the next run for a set
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Dennis Moritz on February 07, 2018, 04:38:27 AM
I’ll take one.


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Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on February 07, 2018, 05:32:51 AM
Peter you are added to the list.

Dennis, you're already on the list mate

Brian
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Dave Moritz on February 07, 2018, 10:04:49 AM
Brian:

Just to make certain there is no confusion, kindly note that Dennis and I have very similar names. Much obliged!

Dave Mo...
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on February 07, 2018, 06:02:48 PM
Yes, I had noticed and almost messed up on a recent order with that.

Brian:

Just to make certain there is no confusion, kindly note that Dennis and I have very similar names. Much obliged!

Dave Mo...
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Bootlegger on February 08, 2018, 03:15:05 PM
 Mr Gardner I just sent a P/M to you..  Thanks
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Juan Valentin on February 08, 2018, 04:32:20 PM
Posted a video for you in the engine set up tips section.
Al
                     I did a search but could not find your posting on the LA .46 with  Brian`s  p/l in a video, can you post a link?
                                                                                                                                                                                                        juan
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Al Ferraro on February 08, 2018, 08:30:33 PM
                     I did a search but could not find your posting on the LA .46 with  Brian`s  p/l in a video, can you post a link?
                                                                                                                                                                                                        juan
https://stunthanger.com/smf/engine-set-up-tips/jaguar-powered-with-a-gardner-la46-pl-kit/
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Bootlegger on February 09, 2018, 09:09:12 AM
 Al what fuel, glow plug and any other info you can provide also please.  Thanks, Bootlegger
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Brian Gardner on February 13, 2018, 10:55:09 PM
I'll have these ready to go out shortly, so it's time to start chasing you guys for money. I'll be contacting everyone on the list in the next few days.

Brian
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: Chris Fretz on March 22, 2018, 10:14:46 AM
Re : LA .46 abc p&l .My first flights were on my old TF Tudor 11 " break in plane" ARF. Oh my that engine-is now one serious piece of kit .
 After six runs on the test stand it felt about right for a soft flight . The four stroke growl is impressive, on the second flight I set engine to a just breaking 2-4 . After four flights I'm looking for a better home for this baby .
Mileage is better than stock already,and it was good before !

Well done Brian .
Brad LaPointe
MAAC 5418
I just ran my LA46 with the Gardner piston, liner, and head set up for the first time today, and all I can say is it is one of the sweetest stunt engines I ever heard with great 4 stroking power and a soft 2 stroke break. The fuel mileage is better than my La 40. I agree with what Brad described about the engine run, it's awesome. I used the head gasket Brian supplyed with the parts. The liner even has the alignment hole to make the insulation fool proof.
 Guys will be dumping their electric setups when they see this.
Thanks Brain for the great work.
Al

What needle valve assembly and venturi did you guys use? What prop did you use?
Title: Re: LA46 ABC sets. Taking names for the next prod run
Post by: badbill on March 22, 2018, 11:56:51 AM
Brian,
                  I got my LA 46 set about a week or so ago, and it is beautiful. Slid right in to my motor, and everything fit great. Very high compression, I may add the 2nd head gasket before initial runs. Thanks much.