Klotz oil

[Brent Rogillio]

What is the difference between kl198 blend and the kl200 blend for mixing my glow fuel

[Joe Gilbert]

Brent either will work but I use 198 it is a thinner viscosity.

[Reptoid]

99% of the people using klotz for model engine fuel use KL-200 (Original Technoplate). You can use KL198 which is lighter viscosity but also harder to find and usually more expensive. Not sure what the perceived benefits are other than better flow at extremely cold temperatures.

[dennis lipsett]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the numbers on Klotz oil. I used KL100 which was 80% synthetic and 20% Castor.
KL 200 was 100% synthetic.

[Tom Vieira]

original techniplate is the blend to use if you want castor/synthetic blend.  if you want straight castor, BeNol.

[Lauri Malila]

I would like to know the difference between KL-198 and KL-189. They are both low viscosity oils.
#189 (Heliglo) is for model helicopters, and some sources say it's same as #198 but with added anti-foam agents. But I have no reliable info. Anyone?
I have used the#189 for a couple of years now and I like it. I mix it with 3-4% of good castor (Racing Castor 927), total 20% oil. I use Heliglo because I bought a gallon of it in some contest, so I haven't done any comparing tests with #198, that's why I'm asking.
I have been warned against using these low viscosity oils but in my opinion they give so much nicer engine run that it's difficult not to use them. But so far I have not destroyed anything, nor is there any measurable wear in the engine (AAC/Dykes ring). But just in case, in the next engines I will have the critical components diamond coated. L

[Brent Rogillio]

 Thanks everybody for the info

[John Leidle]

  I go along with Laurie   I have been using low Viscosity oil since 1999  or so. The only damage I've done since that time was mangling things with an Electric Starter.  The way I set my engines  ( rich run )they with outlive me that's for sure.
  John L.

[Dave Hull]

Lauri,

As we have discussed previously, Maxima Castor 927 has between 50 and 70 percent castor oil, according to their filed MSDS report. The balance is synthetic and the exact percentages are a trade secret, just as the types of synthetic esters are. That means that you are probably running 1.5 to 2.8 percent castor with your 3 to 4 percent addition. I'm not saying if that is good or bad--I'm saying that if guys start using or adding Maxima Castor 927 they should realize that it is not a full-castor composition, but a synthetic blend.

If anyone wants to run (or add) castor using a Klotz product and know what you are mixing, you want the BeNol.

Dave

[Reptoid]

Klotz part numbers confuse everyone because the number is derived from the oil and the size of the container. i.e. KL-200 is 1 qt of Original Technoplate (100% syn) KL-205 is a gallon of the same oil. KL-100 is 1 qt of Super Technoplate (20% castor and 80% syn)

[Lauri Malila]

Lauri,

As we have discussed previously, Maxima Castor 927 has between 50 and 70 percent castor oil, according to their filed MSDS report. The balance is synthetic and the exact percentages are a trade secret, just as the types of synthetic esters are. That means that you are probably running 1.5 to 2.8 percent castor with your 3 to 4 percent addition. I'm not saying if that is good or bad--I'm saying that if guys start using or adding Maxima Castor 927 they should realize that it is not a full-castor composition, but a synthetic blend.

If anyone wants to run (or add) castor using a Klotz product and know what you are mixing, you want the BeNol.

Dave

Yep Dave, you're of course right.

I have also tried with only #927 in fuel (20%), 10/10% with #189 and now with only the 3..4% in the mix. It seems that to get enough benefit of castor molecyles and whatever else the #927 has in it, only that little is needed.
Actually, in team racing they mix some Benol to the #927 to get the healthy tan in piston crown, otherwise it would burn too clean😋

[Dan McEntee]

Klotz part numbers confuse everyone because the number is derived from the oil and the size of the container. i.e. KL-200 is 1 qt of Original Technoplate (100% syn) KL-205 is a gallon of the same oil. KL-200 is 1 qt of Super Technoplate (20% castor and 80% syn)

   Yes it does get confusing. Reread your statement above, regarding the KL-200. At first you say it is a quart of 100% original synthetic. Then at the end, you say KL-200 is one quart of Super Technoplate at 20% Castor and 80% synthetic? Which is correct?

   Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee

[Richard Imhoff]

Why don't you go to Klotz.com and read all about the oils!!, every thing is there on the oils they sell.. "O"
 and kl100 has NO CASTOR in it.

[Jim Svitko]

Why don't you go to Klotz.com and read all about the oils!!, every thing is there on the oils they sell.. "O"
 and kl100 has NO CASTOR in it.

The confusion continues.  My eyes are not so good anymore, but on the Summit Racing site, KL-100, quart of Super TechniPlate, contains 20% castor.

Look at the label.  From what I was told, if it says Super TechniPlate, it will contain some castor.  If original TechniPlate, it is all synthetic, no castor.

And, is it 100% certain that the product shown on websites is the actual product that you are searching for?

Unless I can see the product on the shelf at a retail outlet to be sure of what I am getting, I buy the castor and synthetic separately.  Then I can mix whatever ratio I need.

[Reptoid]

   Yes it does get confusing. Reread your statement above, regarding the KL-200. At first you say it is a quart of 100% original synthetic. Then at the end, you say KL-200 is one quart of Super Technoplate at 20% Castor and 80% synthetic? Which is correct?

   Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee

My bad. That was a typo on my part . I corrected it in the post above. KL-100 is the one with castor (Super Technoplate)