Old Nobler Add

[jfv]

This Nobler add from the June 1957 Model Airplane News show George Aldrich holding a Nobler that has a different wing tip shape as well as a different rudder, stab and elevator shape.  Anyone have any information on this particular model.  I kind of like the shape.

[Randy Cuberly]

Well, George built several different Noblers and there was probably small differences in them.  However, just looking at that AD I think it's been retouched with dark outlines etc. to make it look more attractive to the buyer.  It's possible that the retouching work changed the outlines slightly.  That particular one may not have even belonged to George.  Most of the ones I saw of his actually had very different color schemes than that one.  There are several earlier versions than that one also.  The MAN Plan one being the most prevalent!

That one is presumably advertising the Top Flite "Green Box" "57 Nobler".

Randy Cuberly

[BYU]

This was Georges white Nobler, it was featured in a magazine article, don’t have the details just more images somewhere.  He mentioned in the article that the paint was still drying when he took it to its first contest.

As well as the different tip shapes the cowl is different from the later versions with a simpler slope back from the spinner exposing the engine cylinder head.

[Terrence Durrill]

This Nobler add from the June 1957 Model Airplane News show George Aldrich holding a Nobler that has a different wing tip shape as well as a different rudder, stab and elevator shape.  Anyone have any information on this particular model.  I kind of like the shape.

                WOW ... Look at that kit price ...... $7.95 !  ...........  Those were the days.  My, how times (and money values) have changed.              

[Skip Chernoff]

Terrance ,that was expensive compared to a Sterling Ringmaster,P51,or Yak9 which was about $2.95 at that time. At $7.95 it was a ton of money for a kid on his paper route!

Aside from the cowl,it looks very similar to the GreenBox Nobler or the TF ARF version.

[john e. holliday]

That is the one my parents ordered for me for Christmas that year.  They were upset when it didn't get here in time for Christmas morning.   Built and finished it in the bedroom.  Mine was solid white like the box cover.  I still have the plans in my stash in the shop along with about four other versions of the Nobler including the Gieske Nobler.  I have read where he could build/finish one in a week.

[Gerald Arana]

                WOW ... Look at that kit price ...... $7.95 !  ...........  Those were the days.  My, how times (and money values) have changed.              

Now let's put that in prospective; At that time I was making 75 cents an hour washing dishes.... That's 10+ hours of work or in today's world $40 X 10 = $400 for a kit. So in reality today's kits are actually cheaper! 

Strange huh?

Jerry

[Fredvon4]

I have done this $$ drill quite a few times against my wages then (and the then cost of an item) vs today---- and not only are a lot of things relatively cheaper, they are usually better quality, and in many areas much better selection

I was terribly ignorant in 2012 when I though I did good, winning a Sterling RingMaster S-1 kit for only $125

Dad bought McCoy 35s even knowing Fox 35 was better ( I know, arguable today) due to the price

Today, I can still find NIB of either at very good relative prices
I wounder if a Nelson, Ro-Jett, Precision Aero (PA) or any other hi zoot engine could have even sold back then

On several of my forums are some often posted ads from AHS, or other sources,  for hobby stuff. Like most, I always see the $2.95 for this or $5.95 for that

I always takes me just a bit to remember that my effective wage at the Oakland Tribune for throwing 176 papers every morning was still about 58 cents per hour----Or How my first 7/11 boss paid me $1.05 to stock shelves in 1971

And I guess it would start a long discussion on military drafted in the 60s 70s enlisted pay...mine was $305 gross per month... loss of IRS and all the other mandatory contributions (Old Soldiers Home) (( Hair cut)) had me leaving the pay line with under $200 cash

Some few will not get this....but back then, I was woke up at 0430, PT, then chow, then motor pool, mess hall lunch, then motor pool, then dinner, then motor pool and released around 6 tr 8 PM ---back to my barracks to make sure it was organized and clean enough for tomorrow ----and this was 6 days a week...yes Virgina we worked every Saturday....and Sunday after Church too, if we some how pissed off the Sergeant

Typical work week was easy 84 ~90 hrs....into gross pay of $305 was about $3.5 per hr in 1972~73....

As I type this I do remember one kid in our neighbor hood we were very jealous of...His dad was a high paid TWA pilot for San Fran to Japan flights...and hardly ever home.... but the kid had EVERY new high end toy

And I did much appreciate the $5 tip from them--- every Xmas ---for delivering the Oakland Tribune and SanFran Chronical rain or shine...every day

[EddyR]

 I believe this is the Nobler built with Polybond. You put it on both surfaces and let it dry and then use heat to join the parts. I have used it in the past but found it to be heavy. It worked very well for me on wing sheeting. I think George had delaminating problems with this plane as it aged. I have seen other pictures of this model and this photo is pretty accurate. George built this Nobler is just a few weeks and this is before the fast glues we have now. He did win the Nats with it.
Ed

[EddyR]

 Bob
  I had Pliobond in there and the spell checker changed it on me. I used Pliobond for years in the camera repair business. I use to remove it with MEK.
Reglued down the leather covering on camera bodies with it. I never had the delimiting problem that George did. He may not have let it dry completely before bonding as he was under a tight time limit.
 It is like foam wings glue,  less is better.
Ed