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Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« on: March 16, 2010, 03:43:31 PM »
I am hand cutting a couple of Kenhi Mustang kits and I have been asked to post pictures of the plane. I cannot find any pictures of the plane finished but the plans are excellent and full size. Did I mention they are huge also. Thought I would go ahead and post some pictures of the plans and some of the parts I have cut so far. There is a kit survey currently running on this kit. I hope these come through clear enough. This is a pretty airplane.

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 05:04:29 PM »
You might ignore that I have stated this, but, it makes a better semi-scale than a stunt plane.  Yet guys like Bob Whitely make it look very good doing the pattern.  Keep it super light.   H^^
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 10:23:37 PM »
 Thanks for the pics. Yep, this one is a lot different than the Veco design. But they are both "P-51"'s. ;)

 Looks like a neat model too, but like Doc say's, not really a stunter. Very interesting though. y1
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 10:33:11 PM »
Yes it really is a stunter, built light and straight it flies very well, blunt the LE and use a good motor. This plane is 50 sq inches  larger than its VECO brother and that plane has already won contest in the NE,  Bob Whitley's  P-51 flew well also

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 06:58:59 AM »
nice plane are plans only available id like to build a profile of it?

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 07:38:10 AM »
Great Old Time model. I have Bob Whitely's Kenhi F-51 and it's a real nice Old Timer. An FP 46 is about right, a 40 would be OK too.
Good looking kit!
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 08:51:21 AM »
If I'm not mistook, Hunt won the very first (John Miske) Old Time Stunt contest at the Circle Burners field in Joisey with one of those!

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 02:23:09 PM »
Gentlemen,    Please note that this is a mustang but not a P-51. It is an F-51 and it is different from the P=51. Look at the leading edge right at the root. That is one differenc. Interestingly the F-51 version modelled here never saw action in Korea. The P=51 D models where used there. But the Air Force had dropped the P for Pursuit and changed it to F for fighter. Thus we have this confusion. I have never seen a real F-51 perhaps there is one in a museum some where.

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 08:36:31 PM »
If I'm not mistook, Hunt won the very first (John Miske) Old Time Stunt contest at the Circle Burners field in Joisey with one of those!

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yeah Ward,
Bobby actually won the first Old Time contest with a Veco Mustang. It's a little smaller, called an F-51 also, and looks like an F-51H rather than a D model.
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 08:50:12 PM »
Gentlemen,    Please note that this is a mustang but not a P-51. It is an F-51 and it is different from the P=51. Look at the leading edge right at the root. That is one differenc. Interestingly the F-51 version modelled here never saw action in Korea. The P=51 D models where used there. But the Air Force had dropped the P for Pursuit and changed it to F for fighter. Thus we have this confusion. I have never seen a real F-51 perhaps there is one in a museum some where.

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The P-51 and F-51 designators are just a change in military designation after 1947 or so. The model designator of the airplane would be those following the number. A P-51D Mustang from WWII is an F-51D, is the same airframe. The P-51H changed to the F-51H. Thunderbolts operated after this time period were designated F-47D, Twin Mustangs were designated F-82B, etc.
As has been told around here before, the Kenhi and Veco Mustang models are actually stunt models. They are just made to look like a real airplane. To me, both of them look to be modeled after the 555 P/F-51H model Mustangs that were the final derivetive after a series of lightweight test airplanes and built after the war. They don't have a kink in the wing like a D model, and have a deeper scoop shape and a tall, high aspect ration fin and rudder.
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 09:06:44 PM »
Roger- I have plans for a profile P- 51. They have provision for building any variation that flew escort in Europe, two razorback and two bubble canopy versions. 500 sq in for a good 40 or 46. Designed to fly very well with an almost dead accurate profile plus a photo of the Mustang flight line where I served!

As for the Kenhi Mustang, it really is more of a P-51-D but not a real accurate wing plan. All Mustangs, D and H models became F-51's when the USAF became a separate service in 1947. The antenna on the back and the radiator are from the "D" model.

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 09:53:07 PM »
Well....... You asked...... y1

Post-World War II
 
F-51 Mustang taxis through a puddle in Korea, laden with bombs and rocketsIn the aftermath of World War II, the USAAF consolidated much of its wartime combat force and selected the P-51 as a "standard" piston-engine fighter, while other types, such as the P-38 and P-47, were withdrawn or given substantially reduced roles. However, as more advanced jet fighters (P-80 and P-84) were being introduced, the P-51 was relegated to secondary status.

In 1947, the newly-formed USAF Strategic Air Command employed Mustangs alongside F-6 Mustangs and F-82 Twin Mustangs, due to their range capabilities. In 1948, the designation P-51 (P for pursuit) was changed to F-51 (F for fighter), and the existing F designator for photographic reconnaissance aircraft was dropped because of a new designation scheme throughout the USAF. Aircraft still in service in the USAF or Air National Guard (ANG) when the system was changed included: F-51B, F-51D, F-51K, RF-51D (formerly F-6D), RF-51K (formerly F-6K), and TRF-51D (two-seat trainer conversions of F-6Ds). They remained in service from 1946 through 1951. By 1950, although Mustangs continued in service with the USAF after the war, the majority of the USAF's Mustangs had been surplussed or transferred to the Air Force Reserve (AFRES) and the Air National Guard (ANG).

 
USAF F-51D dropping napalm on a target in North KoreaDuring the Korean War, F-51s, though obsolete as fighters, were used as close ground-support aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft until the end of the war in 1953[53]. Because of its lighter structure and less availability of spare parts, the newer, faster F-51H was not used in Korea. With the aircraft being used for ground attack, their performance was less of a concern than their ability to carry a load.

At the start of the Korean War, the Mustang once again proved its usefulness. With the availability of F-51Ds in service and in storage, a substantial number were shipped via aircraft carriers to the combat zone for use initially by both the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) and USAF. Rather than employing them as interceptors or "pure" fighters, the F-51 was given the task of ground attack, fitted with rockets and bombs. After the initial invasion from North Korea, USAF units were forced to fly from bases in Japan, and F-51Ds could hit targets in Korea that short-ranged F-80 jet fighters could not. A major concern over the vulnerability of the cooling system was realized in heavy losses due to ground fire. Mustangs continued flying with USAF and ROKAF fighter-bomber units on close support and interdiction missions in Korea until they were largely replaced by Republic F-84 and Grumman Panther jet fighter-bombers in 1953. No. 77 Squadron Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) operated Australian-built Mustangs as part of British Commonwealth Forces Korea, replacing them with Gloster Meteor F8s in 1951. No. 2 Squadron South African Air Force (SAAF) operated US-built Mustangs as part of the US 18th Fighter Bomber Wing, suffering heavy losses by 1953, when it converted to the F-86 Sabre.

 
West Virginia Air National Guard F-51D. Note: postwar "uncuffed" propeller unitF-51s flew in the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard throughout the 1950s. The last American USAF Mustang was F-51D-30-NA AF Serial No. 44-74936, which was finally withdrawn from service with the West Virginia Air National Guard in 1957. This aircraft is now on display at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. It is, however, painted as P-51D-15-NA Serial No. 44-15174.[54]

The final withdrawal of the Mustang from USAF dumped hundreds of P-51s out onto the civilian market. The rights to the Mustang design were purchased from North American by the Cavalier Aircraft Corporation, which attempted to market the surplus Mustang aircraft both in the U.S. and overseas. In 1967 and again in 1972, the USAF procured batches of remanufactured Mustangs from Cavalier, most of them destined for air forces in South America and Asia that were participating in the Military Assistance Program (MAP). These aircraft were remanufactured from existing original F-51D airframes but were fitted with new V-1650-7 engines, a new radio fit, tall F-51H-type vertical tails, and a stronger wing that could carry six 0.50 in (13 mm) machine guns and a total of eight underwing hardpoints. Two 1,000 lb (454 kg) bombs and six 5 in (127 mm) rockets could be carried. They all had an original F-51D-type canopy, but carried a second seat for an observer behind the pilot. One additional Mustang was a two-seat dual-control TF-51D (67-14866) with an enlarged canopy and only four wing guns. Although these remanufactured Mustangs were intended for sale to South American and Asian nations through the MAP, they were delivered to the USAF with full USAF markings. They were, however, allocated new serial numbers (67-14862/14866, 67-22579/22582 and 72-1526/1541).[54]

The last U.S. military use of the F-51 was in 1968, when the U. S. Army employed a vintage F-51D (44-72990) as a chase aircraft for the Lockheed YAH-56 Cheyenne armed helicopter project. This aircraft was so successful that the Army ordered two F-51Ds from Cavalier in 1968 for use at Fort Rucker as chase planes. They were assigned the serials 68-15795 and 65-15796. These F-51s had wingtip fuel tanks and were unarmed. Following the end of the Cheyenne program, these two chase aircraft were used for other projects. One of them (68-15795) was fitted with a 106 mm recoilless rifle for evaluation of the weapon's value in attacking fortified ground targets.[55] Cavalier Mustang 68-15796 survives at the Air Force Armament Museum, Eglin AFB, Florida, displayed indoors in World War II markings.

The F-51 was adopted by many foreign air forces and continued to be an effective fighter into the mid-1980s with smaller air arms. The last Mustang ever downed in battle occurred during Operation Power Pack in the Dominican Republic in 1965, with the last aircraft finally being retired by the Dominican Air Force (FAD) in 1984.[56]

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 10:01:20 AM »
Thanks Wes,

You certainly explained that very well. I wonder if there are any H models flying?
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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 01:54:33 PM »
nice plane are plans only available id like to build a profile of it?

Yes I have plans  for it on my web site or catolog or call

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Re: Kenhi Mustang Pictures
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 08:02:52 PM »
I got a set of the plans a couple years ago from Randy.  They are works of art in themselves!

As to the Cavalier program, I believe Al Rabe had something to do with them.  I recall him talking about ferrying and delivering (he would brief the new owners about the plane) some P-51s back in the day.

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