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Offline Steve Lotz

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Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« on: June 05, 2021, 09:39:30 AM »
Has anyone here used this? My neighbor has one for sale and I'm considering it.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2021, 11:02:03 AM »
Must be a stealth band saw.  I've never seen one.   LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2021, 12:43:27 PM »
Will he let you test the saw first?
If the money is what you want to spend, and it works as advertised, it may be a real bargain. I've been pleasantly surprised by a few relatively unknown machines.

This one looks like a rebranded [insert 9" saw name], with a work light and laser guide that appear to be usable upgrade features.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2021, 01:33:51 PM »
Are the blades specific to the  machine or will any band fit? I know nothing of band saws. He wants $20 for it.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2021, 01:47:07 PM »
Are the blades specific to the  machine or will any band fit? I know nothing of band saws. He wants $20 for it.

Really. For $20 you canít lose.
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2021, 02:17:52 PM »
I found the instruction manual on line:

  https://www.alltradetools.com/pdfs/new/archive/Kawasaki-9in-Band-Saw_840254_eng.pdf

Looks like a nice band saw.  Uses 59 1/2" blades which are common.   D>K
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2021, 02:19:59 PM »
If I lived next to you, you wouldn't have the drawn-out opportunity to buy it! I would have tried a 1/2" scrap of plywood, checked all the adjustment points, inspected the idler wheel surface and bearings, and handed him the $20!

Your potential saw takes a 59.5" blade. It is related to the sub-$200 mini band saws sold as Ryobi, Craftsman, Harbor Freight (whatever the name), etc. Parts should be readily available.

You can see the resemblance from my first link below. The second has the manual.

59.5" saw blade:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/PORTER-CABLE-9-in-2-5-Amp-Stationary-Band-Saw/1000201685?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-tol-_-google-_-lia-_-129-_-benchtoptools-_-1000201685-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5avXqaWB8QIVkic4Ch2YpQAGEAQYASABEgL99vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

59.5" saw blade (and manual for that saw):
https://www.alltradetools.com/pdfs/new/archive/Kawasaki-9in-Band-Saw_840254_eng.pdf

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2021, 03:00:18 PM »
So I guess this would be good for profile fuselages and ribs? That's what I'd be doing with it.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2021, 03:50:05 PM »
For large ribs, yes. For any fuselage work, yes.

However, watch the working gaps around the blade and table. The smaller stuff in 1/2A can get pulled in/down the gap.

 It will handle your typical plywood stuff with ease...bellcrank floors, firewalls, custom hard wood for engine mounts, wing braces, main spars, and other chunky stuff.

Again, if he offered it to me for $20, I'd make room for it, and buy him lunch!

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2021, 03:59:08 PM »
Thank you! I guess I'll look at it and make sure it works and buy it.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2021, 05:42:08 PM »
Oh, and check the blade guide. It should be adjustable. The cheaper ones use blade guide bushings.  The better copies have small roller bearings. Either way, ensure it is still there and functional.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2021, 01:51:25 PM »
Buy it, band saws are easy to reserect no matter the vintage or brand. I have two Craftsman 12 inch band saws, one set up for wood and the other set up for aluminum. Both are more than 40 years old but still work great. For good info on how to tune up a band saw check out the many YouTube videos on the subject.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2021, 08:17:00 AM »
The normal wear parts you would look for...blade, blade guides, blade brushes, tires and maybe wheel bearings. 
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2021, 08:34:22 AM »
I've never needed one of those in 60 years of modeling. I nice scroll saw is all I've ever used.


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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 02:29:31 AM »
I've never needed one of those in 60 years of modeling. I nice scroll saw is all I've ever used.


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Then you have no idea of what you are missing.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2021, 09:38:23 PM »
Bandsaw blades are easy enough to have made to custom lengths, if that was going to be a problem...which it apparently will not be. Let your fingers do the walking through the Yellow Pages. Take them an old blade, but feel free to tell them you need finer or coarser teef.   D>K Steve
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2021, 09:46:18 PM »
Then you have no idea of what you are missing.

What am I missing? Can you slow it down enough for metal?

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2021, 09:59:15 PM »
I found the instruction manual on line:

  https://www.alltradetools.com/pdfs/new/archive/Kawasaki-9in-Band-Saw_840254_eng.pdf

Looks like a nice band saw.  Uses 59 1/2" blades which are common.   D>K

Good information...especially pay attention to the safe use part of the instructions. Lower the blade guide so's it's close to the workpiece. This one step will help to keep all your fingers. Even a 9" bandsaw is capable of taking a finger off in the blink of an eye....and spurt of an artery. Nope, I've still got all mine, but I see some dumb stuff on HGTV. Safety glasses are also a good idea, and seldom seen on HGTV.   n1 Steve
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2021, 04:08:27 AM »
What am I missing? Can you slow it down enough for metal?

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Some can, but typically ones designed for wood can only be slowed down enough for aluminum. If you need to cut steel best buy a horizontal band saw designed for the task. I have an old Well Saw I rebuilt with new guide bearings and blade. Yep I have 3 band saws, one for wood, one vertical for aluminum and the Well Saw that will cut steel or aluminum. I use all 3 fairly often.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2021, 04:54:32 PM »
I've never needed one of those in 60 years of modeling. I nice scroll saw is all I've ever used.


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I have a scroll saw and two band saws. Try a band saw and you will be wondering why you didn't buy one a long time ago.
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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2021, 01:23:41 AM »
I have a scroll saw and two band saws. Try a band saw and you will be wondering why you didn't buy one a long time ago.
^^^ this ^^^
I also have a scroll saw but it usually only gets used if I need to do an inside cut whear I need to stick the blade through a hole. Band saw cuts faster, smoother and more accurately without all the vibrations you get with a scroll saw.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2021, 02:50:57 AM »
Put me in the column of guys who have never used a band saw.  I've used my handy Dremel band saw for the past 30 years now.  I'm not averse to the band saw, just never tried it, although I can see the advantages for cutting larger items.  How would the band saw do for cutting stacked ribs?  Small sized ribs like for 1/2A?

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2021, 01:15:54 AM »
One really neat thing about a band saw is you can install a 1/2" wide blade for straight cuts or a 1/8" blade for scroll work. The quality and speed of the cut will be determined by your choice of blade tooth pitch. The choices for most band saws are numerous, even if you can't find a stock blade to do what you want for your saw you can order just about anything from a custom blade supply on the net.

Changing the blade is usually fairly easy and pretty quick. Might need to do a guide adjustment when changing blade width but that is usually fairly easy also.

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Re: Kawasaki 840254 band saw
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2021, 11:56:24 AM »
The best modification for any power saw is to add a zero clearance insert or table cover. For a bandsaw or jigsaw, cut a piece of 1/8Ē door skin the size of the table. Using the table edge as a guide, cut to the center of the door skin, tape it in place. The result should be a very noticeable reduction of tear out on the backside of your cuts, especially on thin plywood. Over time, the clearance may open up, push the cover further in to close the gap.

BTW- once I got a bandsaw, the best use for my Dremel jigsaw was to vibrate a jar of solvent for cleaning parts!


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