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Title: K & S Silkspan
Post by: mike londke on May 06, 2016, 08:42:29 PM
I WAS bidding on 14 pieces of K & S Silkspan until it hit $40, now it's over $94!!!! I knew the stuff was hard to find but jeez!  HB~> HB~> HB~>
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: billbyles on May 06, 2016, 09:17:32 PM
I WAS bidding on 14 pieces of K & S Silkspan until it hit $40, now it's over $94!!!! I knew the stuff was hard to find but jeez!  HB~> HB~> HB~>

Hey Mike, that is only $6.71 per piece...I'll sell ya a coupla sheets for only $10.00 per sheet at the "buy it now" price! y1
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: john e. holliday on May 07, 2016, 10:03:49 AM
I've got a box of SIG med silk span that I used a small portion of one sheet.  I think there are 10 sheets.   But before I sell it to some one with more money than  brain, it is going to my flying friend that has helped me a lot recently.   OK Dave? H^^
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dave_Trible on May 07, 2016, 10:19:20 AM
So very kind John.  I'll try not to use it all on one airplane.  And just as I've run out.

Dave
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: jim welch on May 07, 2016, 10:36:04 AM
Mike I have K&S and sig SGM...sold 68 sheets last week from a note on here that nobody paid any attention to in the paint and finishing section so I took it down and someone bought it all from a PM afterwords...jim
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dan McEntee on May 07, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
  I need to take inventory of what's in the basement! I may be sitting on my retirement and not know it! And that doesn't include what is included in the kits I have stashed! What I don't have extra off is spare time!
   Type at you later,
  Dan "Going out to try and clean the garage" McEntee
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: mike londke on May 07, 2016, 11:57:21 AM
Mike I have K&S and sig SGM...sold 68 sheets last week from a note on here that nobody paid any attention to in the paint and finishing section so I took it down and someone bought it all from a PM afterwords...jim
Darn Jim! I never saw it. I would have cleaned you out!
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dan McEntee on May 07, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
  This might be a good opportunity to review the different grades that K&S put out if anyone knows for sure what they are. GM, SGM, O,OO,OOO, something like that. I think the GM stood for "gas model" and SGM was "small gas model" and was lighter than the GM. The 0, 00, and 000 were much lighter grades similar to tissue? Feel free to jump in and correct me!
   Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: jim welch on May 07, 2016, 01:27:15 PM
Mike I still have 38 sheets even after selling that...its sgm and oo mixed I cant tell the difference iv'e been putting it on combat planes with dope and auto clear....seems pretty tough when finished...some for you if you need it....Jim :D
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Motorman on May 07, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
I don't get why people are still using this stuff with all the modern coverings we have today. Is it just habit?


MM
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dave_Trible on May 07, 2016, 06:13:35 PM
I don't get why people are still using this stuff with all the modern coverings we have today. Is it just habit?


MM
There is little else I know of to use to get a very light,  hand rubbed dope finish on,  especially on an open-bay structure.  Silk can be used but requires a lot more dope.   Most anything can be used if finish quality is not a great issue. 

Dave
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: mike londke on May 07, 2016, 06:13:46 PM
I don't get why people are still using this stuff with all the modern coverings we have today. Is it just habit?


MM
Why do people use period correct engines on Vintage Combat planes? Because they want them to be built like they were when they were young. Plastic covering on something designed in the silk and dope days just seems wrong to me.
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: jim welch on May 07, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
Mike check your PM's   jim ;D
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Scott Richlen on May 08, 2016, 05:45:55 AM
I recently tried some SIG ply-span as a substitute.  Ugh!  Won't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dave_Trible on May 08, 2016, 06:56:28 AM
I've used the regular ply span ( not lite flight) with some success but it requires more dope so gets heavy pretty quickly .  It is stronger than silk span though.  Great for stunt trainers.

Dave
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: mike londke on May 08, 2016, 07:27:10 AM
Mike I still have 38 sheets even after selling that...its sgm and oo mixed I cant tell the difference iv'e been putting it on combat planes with dope and auto clear....seems pretty tough when finished...some for you if you need it....Jim :D
  PM sent.
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Jim Svitko on May 08, 2016, 08:54:17 AM
Google a place called Easy Built Models.  They have mid weight silkspan on a roll, 10 feet long and about 18 inches wide.  As near as I can tell it is identical to the old stuff (Sig, etc.) we used before.  Cost is about $9 a roll.
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: dennis lipsett on May 10, 2016, 12:23:38 PM
I haven't used dope or silkspan in about 18 years or so. But, I got curious and went down to the shop looked around and found about 50 sheets of the stuff in various weights.
I've just never been that anal about an extra ounce of weight and have more than often been glad to have it in our windy climate.

Dennis
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: Dave Harmon on May 13, 2016, 11:29:13 PM
Google a place called Easy Built Models.  They have mid weight silkspan on a roll, 10 feet long and about 18 inches wide.  As near as I can tell it is identical to the old stuff (Sig, etc.) we used before.  Cost is about $9 a roll.

I got a roll of that....it is just a bit heavier than Jap tissue.
Great for 1/2A or small peanut planes like Easy Built specializes in.
I got some of their house Jap tissue and it worked pretty well. Looks good with about 6 coats of sprayed clear nitrate and 3 sprayed non-shrinking butyrate.

Dave
Title: Re: K & S Silkspan
Post by: EddyR on May 16, 2016, 03:18:10 PM
I also bought silkspan from Easy Built Models and the 10 ft rolls are like the old medium silkspan. Easy to work with.
Ed