Author Topic: Just pick one.... what is the hardest to do. (Read 3422 times)

Paul Taylor · « **on:** April 14, 2007, 01:08:24 PM »

Assume the weather is just right for stunts...
What is the hardes stunt to do?
Right now mine is outsides.

What is yours, Clover leaf?

Leo Mehl · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2007, 01:34:48 PM »

At my age, all of them.

Paul Smith · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2007, 01:37:56 PM »

Easy to do,,,hard to do proper !!!

FAI gives it K-18, their highest number... 16 corners, 16 straights, 4 bottoms, lots of places to lose points.

Clint Ormosen · « **Reply #3 on:** April 14, 2007, 01:40:05 PM »

The outside square. I hate the first dive into it.

Bill Little · « **Reply #4 on:** April 14, 2007, 02:33:33 PM »

Square eight followed by the reverse wingover. I can never seem to consistantly wait on the plane to come down for the reverse pullout in the R.O.. I wish it was in about the middle of the pattern where I have had some time in the flight to get a little bit of timing going.

Square eights are just imting, timing, timing.............

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2007, 03:52:07 PM »

Inverted double vertical eight from the Mirror pattern.

rob biddle · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2007, 04:06:19 PM »

I'd have to agree with Bill,

Square 8's followed by the reverse wing over.

The inverted pullout is hard to nail that early in the flight and in my opinion sets up the whole flight.

When someone else really nails it I usually sit up and pay particular attention to the rest of the flight.

Cheers, Rob.

Garf · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2007, 04:36:38 PM »

Reverse wingover. I have trouble with the inverted pullout. I lose too much airspeed, then I lose tension on the second half.

Peter Nevai · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2007, 04:42:45 PM »

Anything with 3 sides, s'pecially the hour glass. It's them less than 90 degree turns.

Dwayne · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2007, 05:16:16 PM »

Cloverleaf

captcurt · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2007, 06:03:36 PM »

WEll..i could go along and say the hourglass..I think that is the most taxing of the plane and powerplant. They are MORE than 90 deg turns by the way..but I knew what you meant.

But, I'll say rounds are the most difficult to really do well. Straight lines are easy to see. A good round tho...it can be bad in an infinite numer of places! Of course, they are the SAFEST for the plane..except perhaps the vertical 8.

THe RW and Sq 8are right up there although as Bill said, its alot of timing and Chutzpah waiting for the RWO pull out.

Just remember Bill, real PA pilots never pull out early!

Curt

Dick Fowler · « **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2007, 06:22:41 PM »

Overhead eights. No ground reference points. Tension is lower and I'm not as flexible as I once was!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2007, 06:43:10 PM »

I have to agree with the Hourglass, I have a tendency to lose it on the downleg headed for the final turn.

"Billy G"

Phil Coopy · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2007, 06:58:46 PM »

Snap rolls...............can't keep my lines untangled...

Phil

Glen Wearden · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2007, 07:20:58 PM »

For me, it is all that occurs, or fails to occur, after the launch!

Glen

Bill Little · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2007, 07:51:22 PM »

Quote from: captcurt on April 14, 2007, 06:03:36 PM

(snip) THe RW and Sq 8are right up there although as Bill said, its alot of timing and Chutzpah waiting for the RWO pull out.

Just remember Bill, real PA pilots never pull out early!

Curt

Ah, Captcurt! I guess I am woefully lacking in the "real PA pilot"realm!!!!!!!!

BTW: Going to make Huntersville this year?? I gots to get ready for the BOBFGC event if so..............

Bill "the unreal PA pilot" Little

bob branch · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2007, 08:02:05 PM »

Curt

Real aerobatic pilots don't pull out late on the reverse wing over either. If they are late, they aren't pilots anymore, they are garbage collectors.

Bob Branch

M Spencer · « **Reply #17 on:** April 14, 2007, 08:05:37 PM »

THE LANDING ?

Dwayne · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2007, 08:29:54 PM »

Quote from: Matthew Spencer on April 14, 2007, 08:05:37 PM

THE LANDING ?

That's a good one

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2007, 08:36:55 PM »

My bigest problem is doing the second figure 9! I nail the first one but the plane will not do the second one.

Any suggestions?

Clancy

steve pagano · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2007, 09:59:29 PM »

Quote from: Clancy Arnold on April 14, 2007, 08:36:55 PM

My bigest problem is doing the second figure 9! I nail the first one but the plane will no do the second one.

Any suggestions?

Clancy

Try a different prop!

Louis Rankin · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2007, 11:39:31 PM »

Matthew is right. The landing intimidates me. There is usually several more than two laps inbetween the Clover and engine shut off. For all those laps after the Clover all I can think of is, shut off before 8 and don't bounce, shut off before 8 and don't bounce.

Joey Mathison 9806 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2007, 06:30:39 AM »

never have entered a stunt contest to busy flying speed planes at contest,however i do enjoy flying sport planes allmost every weekend over the last year i have been trying to fly differant stunts the hour glass is still kickin my butt. last weekend i tried vertical sq 8's that was difficult but lots of fun

Bill Hodges · « **Reply #23 on:** April 15, 2007, 06:38:42 AM »

Without a doubt, the hourglass. I have never flown one properly.

Bill Hodges

john e. holliday · « **Reply #24 on:** April 15, 2007, 07:22:14 AM »

From the time the wheels start turning, until they stop turning when and after the engine quits. Actually the RW is the one I just can't seem to hit consistently. But, it is bad that when you do get one down to 4 foot or at level flight around 5 foot with smooth levels between turns and only get 12 points. Whole flight pattern with bottems at 4-5 foot scored only a 311. DOC Holliday

PS:I now don't worry about bottoms anymore as it seems I can get over 400 consistently now. jeh

captcurt · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2007, 08:57:23 AM »

Quote from: Louis Rankin on April 14, 2007, 11:39:31 PM

Matthew is right. The landing intimidates me. There is usually several more than two laps inbetween the Clover and engine shut off. For all those laps after the Clover all I can think of is, shut off before 8 and don't bounce, shut off before 8 and don't bounce.

Hi Louis:

I have had great success with cutoff loops. Especially in very windy conditions where they give you a very predictable landing point going downwind instead of getting around into a stiff breeze and having the plane balloon.

Curt

Randy Powell · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2007, 09:47:08 AM »

For me, inverted flight. Must be a lot harder than it looks. I've never received a 40.

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2007, 11:52:10 AM »

hmm lets see,,, sqaur 8's,, peice of cake, oh wait, havent done those yet,,, outside squares,, hmm same deal,, (chicken,,,,,,) I guess as soon as I have more than one airplane ready to fly I will try them. For me, the overhead 8 is real tough no point of reference and its so so easly to get over to one side,,

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2007, 01:35:01 PM »

The square eights (both insides and outs) are OK to fly, but hard to fly well.

The plane killer I found when I was learning was the hourglass......the 4th corner!!!!!! From diving inverted at 45 degress to level pull out at 5 feet!!! EEEK!

Bill Little · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2007, 02:31:44 PM »

I was very luck that a very good flyer taught me the Hourglass. He had me do it almost vertical to start out with. Most lay the plane to far over on it's back going up when they start out. Once you do it, you can get the angles worked out easier, it seems, by coming at it from a much more vertical attitude.

Charlie Pate · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2007, 04:32:04 PM »

4-6 ft. bottoms on anything

Author Topic: Just pick one.... what is the hardest to do. (Read 3422 times)

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