Author Topic: CL Fliers Spotted in Clovis, New Mexico (Read 3389 times)

George Hostler · « **on:** July 04, 2013, 06:53:14 AM »

Hello, I am new to this forum, but not new to CL. My first plane in 1965 was a half-A Scientific Walt Musciano stand way off scale Hellcat built up with plastic turtle deck and Cox .020 Pee Wee. I have built close to a dozen of these, moving on to a Sterling P-51 Profile with Testor McCoy .19 Red Head in the early 1970's. This past week I flew my Ringmaster Junior with OS Max 15FP-S. Last time I flew it was in the 1990's. Flying with Ron Cribbs, here are a few videos of our flights.

A few photos of our flying:

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/advnaicqe1terz3/PS4pCQrhYf#/

(Edit, not sure why YouTube's are not showing up, converting to links.)

My accidental flight with Ringmaster Jr. & OS 15FP-S on 35 feet lines:

Ron's Baby Clown with Tee Dee 049:

Ron's Ringmaster with Fox 35 Stunt:

Videos and photos are courtesy of Gary Jones, MADS R/C Club. Please note I erroneously told Gary last flight was 19 years ago. After thinking about it, it is more like 14 or 15. What's a few years, anyway?

Ward Van Duzer · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2013, 07:43:57 AM »

A pretty scruffy looking field, but it doesn't look like you'll have many complaining neighbors!

Enjoy...

W.

RC Storick · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2013, 08:05:38 AM »

Heck I would get dizzy at 3 second laps. Try 52 foot lines.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2013, 08:57:21 AM »

As Sparky says, go to 52 foot lines on the .15. Yes the flying site looks a little ruff, but I would love to have that much room to fly close to home.

George Hostler · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2013, 07:06:10 PM »

Quote from: Ward Van Duzer on July 04, 2013, 07:43:57 AM

A pretty scruffy looking field, but it doesn't look like you'll have many complaining neighbors! Enjoy... W.

Clovis and Cannon AFB are encroached by 18 dairy farms. With the wind is the usual odoriferous stench, people here call it the smell of money.

The field is maintained by the modelers and we have had some recent rains, so we got some growth to take care of. The CL circle is actually the intersections of the paved RC runways. They have 3 runways facing at various angles. the lesser used needs to be weed wacked.

Quote from: Robert Storick on July 04, 2013, 08:05:38 AM

Heck I would get dizzy at 3 second laps. Try 52 foot lines.

Afterwards, Ron let me try his 58 feet lines, what a big difference. Now I was doing 5 second laps at this 4,300 feet elevation. I've got some Spectra bulk line, am planning to make up a couple 52' sets.

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 04, 2013, 08:57:21 AM

As Sparky says, go to 52 foot lines on the .15. Yes the flying site looks a little ruff, but I would love to have that much room to fly close to home.

John, I'd think in your local, there would be plenty of space. Too bad one of the farmers or ranches or municipal airport operators doesn't fly CL.

KenP51 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2013, 08:12:26 AM »

Enjoyed the videos George.
It looked like that ringmaster was trying it's best to screw you into the ground

It sure would have if it had been me on the handle.

Ken

George Hostler · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2013, 08:24:07 AM »

I look toward the positive, Ken. Although dizzying

, using the shorter lines had no problems with line tension.

Yesterday Ron and I flew with the CL fliers in Albuquerque. On 52 feet at 5,000 feet elevation, the Ring Jr. was turning 4 second laps.

KenP51 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2013, 09:09:42 AM »

Hi George
4 seconds is much better than your lap times in the first video.
Here are some pics from about 25 years ago of a rather fast plane. I had a piped rear exhaust Os .61 screaming up front. 1 is the business end, 2 is during flight (\man that thing pulled like a mule, a very fast mule), and last is after landing. Once I got used to it, man was it a blast to fly. I remember combat planes from my youth that were much faster.

I am still working on my little plane and handle. will post more later today.

Ken

George Hostler · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2013, 12:55:44 PM »

Quote from: KenP51 on July 07, 2013, 09:09:42 AM

4 seconds is much better than your lap times in the first video. Here are some pics from about 25 years ago of a rather fast plane. I had a piped rear exhaust Os .61 screaming up front. 1 is the business end, 2 is during flight (\man that thing pulled like a mule, a very fast mule), and last is after landing. Once I got used to it, man was it a blast to fly. I remember combat planes from my youth that were much faster. I am still working on my little plane and handle. will post more later today. Ken

Ken, when you were younger, you were really serious about CL flying I can see, a piped 61 nonetheless, wow.

Those are fantastic photos there. Then you were very fit. Funny how we get older, as stated, The glory of young men is their strength. The splendor of old men is their gray hair. Proverbs 20:29 (World English Bible). Similarly, I used to be into martial arts and weight lifting, running 6 - 8 miles a week.

I redid those two photos of you, just to see if I could color correct in in Gimp, reattached.

KenP51 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2013, 02:16:07 PM »

Hey the gray hair is there (check avatar). Now where the heck did that splendor get misplaced to??

Nope didn't fall on the floor. Wife must have hid it

When I was young I was into biking. I can remember doing 100+ mile rides. I would use the excuse of needing something for my planes, no car, so off I'd go to the nearest hobby shop.

Ken

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2013, 07:50:43 PM »

I hope all you Clovis guys are planning on attending the Albuquerque contest August 17 and 18. Saturday, AMA Stunt and OTS, Sunday Fox and SSR racing and Carrier.

George Hostler · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2013, 08:05:41 PM »

BB, can't speak for Ron, but if I don't get pre-empted, will shoot for those dates. I should have that Ring Jr. further tweaked.

James D. Hayes · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2013, 08:20:57 PM »

We need all the support we can get for next months event. I'll be flying in beginners stunt for the first time. Hope you make it George.

Jim Hayes
NMCCLA's
AMA 988835

George Hostler · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2013, 09:27:17 AM »

We'll see, Jim. I might pack my motorcycle with the CL things, would save on gas.

RknRusty · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2013, 09:03:24 PM »

George, is that a green Stuntman23 in there?

I flew one regularly for over a decade. I named it Green Death. It had so much glue and splints on the rear fuse, I finally cut it off and mounted the stab an inch or so behind the wing and renamed it The Chopper. It suddenly became the funnest slat winged stunt plane I ever had, with a Tee Dee and a bladder.

Rusty

George Hostler · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2013, 05:54:26 AM »

Quote from: RknRusty on July 09, 2013, 09:03:24 PM

George, is that a green Stuntman23 in there? I flew one regularly for over a decade. I named it Green Death. It had so much glue and splints on the rear fuse, I finally cut it off and mounted the stab an inch or so behind the wing and renamed it The Chopper. It suddenly became the funnest slat winged stunt plane I ever had, with a Tee Dee and a bladder. Rusty

No Rusty, it is a Goldberg Swordsman 18. I guess it is the downsized version of the Stuntman. It has yet to fly, although I intend to if we get a light wind day, which are very few here.

Sounds like you did some really wild fun things back then. Ron flew his Baby Clown with .049 Tee Dee and wedge tank. I was impressed with its stuntability with the more power engine. My only previous experiences were with the reed valves. Here in Clovis, we rarely have a calm day so there isn't much opportunity for flight with the reedies.

RknRusty · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:22:14 AM »

Quote from: George Hostler on July 12, 2013, 05:54:26 AM

...Ron flew his Baby Clown with .049 Tee Dee and wedge tank. I was impressed with its stuntability with the more power engine...

Oh, 1/2A is such a a blast. Click the Youtube link under my avatar and watch the featured video of my Baby Flite Streak. 3 minutes of controlled panic. No such thing as 2 mistakes high like the RC guys say

, 1/1000 of a second from disaster for the whole flight.

The Streak has a Tee Dee .051 on a bladder. I have another one like it with a Norvel .061 that really scoots too.
Rusty

George Hostler · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2013, 03:12:48 PM »

Rusty, got to agree with you there. Half-A flying is a blast, but here in Clovis the prevailing High Plains desert winds have few winds of opportunity for flight.

Some videos of yesterday's actions here in Clovis:

Many thanks to Gary Jones, videographer, MADS RC AMA Club who provided and posted these.

RknRusty · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2013, 07:49:24 PM »

Thanks for the entertaining videos, George. Man, your Ring Jr. is balls to the wall, what kind of power plant have you got on that thing? Good flying. I think Ron gets the "Most Improved" award for this Summer. His skill set is coming along nicely.

I hope I can get out with the camera this weekend. It looks like the monsoon season is finally ending, and I started pre-flighting the Shoestring today. Got a new tank and did surgery to find out what was going tickety tick inside the wing... it was a rock! A tiny one. I must have scooped it up on a rough landing when I got a small hole punch in the wing last time out.

Enjoyed the video report,
Rusty

George Hostler · « **Reply #19 on:** July 17, 2013, 04:41:54 AM »

Rusty, I'm using an OS 15PF-S engine with Masters 8x4 prop on 22% nitro and 50' lines. I've heard it is a little hotter than the 15LA. I flew it a couple days ago when we had winds to 15-20 MPH with an approaching storm, that flight was spooky with light line tension and slower flight into the wind, really strong tension and twice the speed with the wind. I tried it on Ron's borrowed 58' lines and then I was doing 5 second laps. Later I want to put it on 60' lines. Ron's flying skills compared with mine are impressive. That Goldberg Shoestring you got is a real classic.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #20 on:** July 17, 2013, 07:55:53 AM »

A .15 on 60 foot lines is pushing it a little I believe. 52 foot .015 is norm for me when flying .15 size planes. Like the videos.

Ron Cribbs · « **Reply #21 on:** July 17, 2013, 06:36:24 PM »

I really need to work on my landings.

It's been fun being able to fly 4-5 days a week, George has been a great flying partner and friend. I hope to be able to fly some back home and hopefully compete in some OTS up in Tulsa. We shall see. Gary Jones has been real gracious with his time and camera.

Ron