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Title: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 08, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Anyone know the plan number for Bill Werwage's Juniper? I checked FM and couldn't find them.
Thanks
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Randy Powell on July 08, 2014, 01:50:32 PM
Junar?
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 08, 2014, 03:03:02 PM
Junar?

Juniper is a .32 size Junar.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: EddyR on July 08, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
I scaled the Junar three years ago but never made the plane available. I was going to use a Rusler 40 in it. I just took the Junar plans to the copy shop and down sized them to about 560+sq". It came out correct in every way. Airfoil and moments worked out well with out changing them for the smaller size. I will get them out tomorrow and take a picture of them. I do not remember the ratio I used.I called it the "Junar 40"
Ed
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Bob Hunt on July 08, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
The Juniper was designed by Bob Hazle. It was indeed essentially a scaled down Junar.

Later - Bob Hunt
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 08, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
I scaled the Junar three years ago but never made the plane available. I was going to use a Rusler 40 in it. I just took the Junar plans to the copy shop and down sized them to about 580 sq". It came out correct in every way. Airfoil and moments worked out well with out changing them for the smaller size. I will get them out tomorrow and take a picture of them. I do not remember the ratio I used.I called it the "Junar 40"
Ed

Thank you very much y1

I'm going to electrify mine. The reason I want one is the thin airfoil. It's so windy here of late and my other planes don't handle the wind as well as a thin airfoil would.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 08, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
The Juniper was designed by Bob Hazle. It was indeed essentially a scaled down Junar.

Later - Bob Hunt

Thanks Bob. How's the grey matter, remember the plan number? LOL  n~
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Bill Hummel on July 09, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
CF 846, I believe.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 09, 2014, 01:10:10 PM
I jusy got an E-mail from FM stating they have no plans by Bob Hazle or Juniper, am I losing it? Could of sworn it was published in FM.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Bob Hunt on July 09, 2014, 01:40:01 PM
Hi Dwayne:

I'm fairly certain that it was never published. I know that while I was the Editor at Flying Models it was never submitted.

Later - Bob Hunt
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Trostle on July 09, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
I have no record of any design being published called Juniper, by Bill Werwage or by anyone else.  My listgings are "fairly complete" except for some stuff published in the foreign magazines.

Keith
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Randy Powell on July 09, 2014, 02:46:38 PM
If it's Bob Hazle, can he be contacted directly?
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 09, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
If it's Bob Hazle, can he be contacted directly?

I'm pretty sure that he passed on some years ago. He is listed in my '09 PAMPA Directory, Fairfield, CA, SF Bay area. Some of the California guys would know for sure if I'm correct.

I tried search here and got nothin', but maybe on SSW forum? No luck there either, but I don't seem to have great results with either forum's search functions. If I'm wrong, he won't be in the members list on the PAMPA site, and he's not.  D>K Steve 
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Bob Hunt on July 09, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
The rumors of his passing are greatly exaggerated... Bob flew this year at VSC with his gorgeous Bill Werwage-designed Vulcan... y1
Bob's wife, Mary Gebhart did pass on a few years ago. Great lady, and Bob was so lost without her. :-\

Bob Hunt
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 09, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
Bob is not is active as he used to be - VSC being the exception. I check in with him occassionally and will let him know about this thread.  8)
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: proparc on July 09, 2014, 06:11:39 PM
Does anyone have a picture of a Juniper?
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 09, 2014, 06:24:56 PM
Does anyone have a picture of a Juniper?

It's a scaled down Junar.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: EddyR on July 10, 2014, 01:23:40 PM
I never heard of the Juniper but here is the scale down Junar I did a few years ago. 51" wing span ,nm 9", TM14.5" It comes out around 560 SQ"
 Most of the full size Junar's that I have seen were like a kite in the wind,maybe to light.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 10, 2014, 03:17:31 PM
The rumors of his passing are greatly exaggerated... Bob flew this year at VSC with his gorgeous Bill Werwage-designed Vulcan... y1
Bob's wife, Mary Gebhart did pass on a few years ago. Great lady, and Bob was so lost without her. :-\

Bob Hunt

I guess I'll stop making such statements...but it's good to hear that he's still with us, on the other hand.  y1 Steve
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: EddyR on July 10, 2014, 03:53:37 PM
It's a scaled down Junar.


Tell us about this scaled down Junar
Ed
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 10, 2014, 07:51:16 PM
Tell us about this scaled down Junar
Ed

Back in the 90's the .32's were gaining popularity and this plane was designed for it. As Bob Hunt stated above it was essentialy a scaled down Junar. It has a relatively thin aifoil which is why I'm interested in it, It's my hope it'll cut through the wind better than the planes I have. Plans were available but I can't remember from where.
Title: Re: Juniper plans
Post by: Dwayne on July 10, 2014, 07:58:13 PM
I never heard of the Juniper but here is the scale down Junar I did a few years ago. 51" wing span ,nm 9", TM14.5" It comes out around 560 SQ"
 Most of the full size Junar's that I have seen were like a kite in the wind,maybe to light.

Thanks Eddy maybe that's what I'll do.