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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Sean McEntee on July 23, 2014, 09:55:12 PM
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Anyone get good pictures of Jim Lee's "Gee Bee" at the Nat's? Caught a glimpse of it in one of Sparky's videos. Looked awesome and would like to see more!
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There's a picture on the first page of Nats News for July 17th.
http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/nats/natsnews.aspx
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r26/fbodies/Engines%20For%20Sale/JLGB.jpg)
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I noticed it too and I've been wondering about it. The caption in the Nats News photo says it's an original design by Jim. It looks really cool and very scale-like. We need more info and specs on this one. y1
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Very nice plane. Cast balsa fuselage. Jim carved a foam block to shape, 3/32 balsa was formed over the buck. We love those 30s pylon racers.
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I was pleased to take these pictures on the day it was first test flown in Topeka.. A neat new plane !
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Very Kewl!
Hope he is at WKSI so I can get up close. ;D
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Jim has had several Gee Bees and keeps improving it. Unless his newest Gee Bee is a total new design, Jim did not design it.
The airplane that Jim is pictured with looks bigger, so it might be a new design, influenced by Bob Miller's airplane.
The Original Gee Bee Sportser was designed by the late Bob Miller of Long Island, NY. Here is a picture of Bob with his original airplane taken at The Garden State Circle Burners Snow Bird meet in February 23, 1964. The airplane was published in Flying Models.
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It looks very cool in the air. I told Jim if there was a "coolness" award at the Nat's he would have my vote.
James
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I just talked to Jim Lee.
Jim's is an entirely new airplane. It is based on the Gee Bee Model Y. Whereas Bob Miller's "Extended Gee Bee" is only a semi Gee Bee look alike. Jim's past "Extended Gee Bee" was the influnce for making a new design that is closer to scale in appearance. The fuselage width at the nose is 6 1/2".
Jim's new airplane has a molded fuselage and is slightly bigger with a little more wing area and dihedral. It uses and Evolution .60 for power.
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The Gee Bee Sportster, or Model D, looks like this. A much easier build, because the fuselage is a box construction, just like most stunters. Power here is a Stalker 51.
Floyd
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The Gee Bee has been a long process!! As Tom pointed out, I've had several of the Bob Miller 'Extended Gee Bee's'. Especially the last one had a direct influence on this one. But, this one is a clean sheet of paper... Slightly more area at 675 sq in, 62" span, with the big fuselage, low wing and dihedral. Short nose and long tail, with the outline as close to scale as possible. Fuselage molded on a blue foam buck turned on the lathe. I had no idea where the problems were going to be, so if there is a MK II version, it will have several detail changes, most notably, a weight reduction program!! The 'Intrepid Aviator' pilot has had some some hair raising moments, but hasn't bailed out yet...!!!
I must give a lot of Thanks to Todd for his encouragement! And the occasional kick to get back to work on it!! And to Billy Werwage for his thoughts on how to deal with big fuselages.
Thanks to everyone for their kind comments about the plane.
Jim
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Jim, that's one of the coolest semi-scale jobs I've seen in awhile. Great job!!
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Sean
The coolest thing for me is that it is ALL mine and not a modified Nobler.... y1 y1 LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
And after twenty years ( ~^ ) it is a NEW plane!!!!
Jim
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James,
Really nice model!
I think all of us have this thing for aircraft of the Golden Era, I know I do.
Can you do a run down on your model? Basic info.
It's large, do you fly in on 70' lines?
Inspiring to say the least.
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I hope you bring it to our TGD Contest in Sep. !!
Beautiful model!
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62" span, 675 sq in, Evolution 60 with LMS custom venturi ( what else..!), Scott Dinger custom muffler.
Sig Champion 10% fuel, 12 3/4 x 4 1/2 CF prop - Bob McDonald/ Billy Werwage design, 65' 6" lines. 5.7 sec lap time
1 1/2 deg down thrust and some positive incidence in the stab ( thank you Bob Whitely!)
molded balsa fuselage
and it weighs way tooo much.... ~^
Jim
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James,
I am curious about the reasoning behind the downthrust and the positive stab incidence.
Jim
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Jim
The downthrust is something Bob Whitely has been touting for some time. He can give you all the tech details!! It does work! The positive incidence in the stab is to overcome reduced turn rate on outside corners with the stab being rather far above the wing... And it also works!! A plane with motor, wing and tail inline does not need it. but as the tail moves above the thrust line, positive incidence is needed. I had a Westland Whirlwind ( the stabalizer is half way up the rudder) very semi scale plane many years ago that would turn very nicely on inside corners, but not worth a darn on the outsides.... Many years later, I found out the fix....
Jim
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James,
Thanks for that information.
How can I get in touch with Scott Dinger? The email I have on him doesn't work.
I may need a custom muffler or two.
Charles
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Here is a couple of pictures of Jim's plane in flight at the Nats.
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cool factor of at least 10
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cool factor of at least 10
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As is Jim Lee himself. Great, fun-loving guy!
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Here are a few more one at appearance judging and the other at the L pad.
Juan
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"Way too heavey" and "5.7 lap times".One of them ain't true !
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Jim has had several Gee Bees and keeps improving it. Unless his newest Gee Bee is a total new design, Jim did not design it.
The airplane that Jim is pictured with looks bigger, so it might be a new design, influenced by Bob Miller's airplane.
The Original Gee Bee Sportser was designed by the late Bob Miller of Long Island, NY. Here is a picture of Bob with his original airplane taken at The Garden State Circle Burners Snow Bird meet in February 23, 1964. The airplane was published in Flying Models.
This is indeed an original by Jim. I spoke to him hoping for plans but he's not ready, and may not be. He's spent many years developing the GEE BEE and is his, I respect that. I judged one of his flights at the Nats, a very able airplane!
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This plane is VERY VERY COOL! I remember sneaking peeks during the appearance judging and catching a glimpse of that plane and wondering who's it was. When I heard it was Jim Lee's I thought, "What, no Sun Flyer?" :) :)
He runs and EVO60 with his own muffler of course and it sounds awesome!
VERY COOL PLANE!!!!
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Very cool plane indeed...I remeber Jim saying at the Des Moines contest he had something new in the works! H^^
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Neat and cool! Probably the most talked about stunter at the NAT's.
Doug
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Jim's airplane cries to be published.
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Jim's airplane cries to be published.
I agree, but I expect he will bask in it for a while and that's his to do. I'd clear the beach and build one right now if I could!!!!
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Sean
The coolest thing for me is that it is ALL mine and not a modified Nobler.... y1 y1 LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
And after twenty years ( ~^ ) it is a NEW plane!!!!
Jim
We sincerely hope the Sun Flyer got a gold watch for years of service! :## :## Does balsa dry rot?????
That is one beautiful airplane Mr. Lee...oh! Mr Lee, Mr Lee, Mr. Lee.....oops. got carried away. Hugs to Lila. Love the Gee Bee!
Ted and Shareen
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Great looking plane Jim. Impression points are off the chart.