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Offline Lyle Spiegel

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JD Falcon photos
« on: December 05, 2024, 07:25:22 AM »
I'm hoping to finally complete my JD Falcon. Would like to replicate same trim as original 1964 version flown at GSCB Snowbird meet.
Does anyone have photos ro share. The 1964 version was orange & white.
It was only one John built with orange trim. I know that because I discussed with John when  he & I met at NJ swap meet.
Thx
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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2024, 07:45:14 AM »
Is this the one?

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2024, 10:38:58 AM »
  The JD Falcon was published in M.A.N. I believe, and should have photos, although in black and white, but should be references to colors. I have the magazine plan. I'll try to check that out later this today.
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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2024, 12:20:01 PM »
Hi Guys:
The pics that Bob posted of John and the JD Falcon are what I believe Lyle is looking for. I recall that M.A.N. had an article of the JD Falcon in the early 60s. And as Bob pointed out, Buddy Weider and George Jones flew them to many wins during that era.  What young talent. We all miss our late friend Buddy who no doubt is flying great patterns with his mentor, John D'Ottavio . As a side note, Tom Niebur kitted the original about 15 years ago.
The photo of me with my JD Falcon II was taken by Don Schultz at the 1969 Navy Nationals Willow Grove,Pa NAS. The story behind my ship, which I believe to be one of one, is somewhat interesting. John was very inspirational to a lot of young fliers in the 50s, 60s and 70s. I was one of them. In 1968, I told him that I wanted to build his original (orange) ship but he asked that I wait because he had begun to think of a newer design. Months went by and after some pestering, he showed up one Thursday eve at a UMAC (Union Model Airplane Club) meeting with a penciled sketch of the fuse side, outlines to make rib templates, and a sketch of the stab/elevator. Nothing more. I was a 17 old kid and had to rely on myself to build it- which was the way I wanted it to be. After completing each major stage of construction, I would drive to his house roughly every third Sunday to show him my progress. In hand was a steno pad to take notes of John's instructions as to what needed to be done next.  I would not allow him to perform any work on it. That went on through all of the Winter of 68 and most of the following. Spring. We even met (me with ship in hand) at a diner a few times, ignoring strange glances from patrons and waitresses. I was in my first year of college, working two part time jobs, wishing to find a date(lol) and building my first big stunter- all at once!  Probably sounds familiar. Used Mom's Electrolux Vacuum Cleaner (Yes!) sprayer attachment to shoot the Aerogloss. Buffed out five days before the NATs and was all set to get in some practice flights before leaving. That part got skuttled after I totaled my 66 Chevelle four days before. No wheels, no field. A fellow club member took my new, yet to be flown JD Falcon II to Willow Grove and I entered, flew and placed at the bottom as pretty much I had expected to do; given the circumstances. As Bob mentioned, I did manage to win Senior Combat and earned the Navy trip for Juniors/ Seniors to Pensacola.  A BLAST ! Once home, I got in some promising practice so thought why not try my luck at the upcoming, big Mitchell Field, L.I. meet. That huge, military purposed site had a reputation for wicked wind. Set the 35 Stunt on the rich side because it wasn't fully broken-in and you guessed it-on the second climb of the reverse wingover, disaster. Gene Schaffer helped me gather the pieces saying " Too bad, kid " and that consisted of my day.
I pirated a decal from a Goldberg Falcon 56 RC kit which wound up on my vertical fin.  Tacky but I was still a kid. Bob's renaming it "Falcon 56" has a nice ring, too. I often think of John and that ship. Here was a man with six kids, a back breaking job and a house to care for and he gave up his day off for me. God Rest, JD ! I sometimes think that there's unfinished business here. Maybe I should do another JD Falcon II before I'm too old.
 P.S.- The photo of John and me judging at the Union Model Airplane Club Meet in 1975. That was a ONE day AAA meet help annually for 25 years on Memorial Day. Note the number of entrants and everyone got two flights. I think Bill Symonds might have topped Gene S. that day. No matter the outcome, whenever Gene Shaffer flew,  nearly everyone in  nearly every event stopped to watch!

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2024, 04:55:37 PM »
  The JD Falcon was published in M.A.N. I believe, and should have photos, although in black and white, but should be references to colors. I have the magazine plan. I'll try to check that out later this today.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2024, 05:24:27 PM »
I have that magazine along with Tom's Falcon kit. Beautiful classic design.

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2024, 05:33:48 AM »
Thanks for the stories guys.  Frankie, I bet I was there too but not at the stunt circle. Battling it out at carrier and balloon bust. My kids were bust climbing on the pile of dirt!

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2024, 06:34:42 AM »
Hi Tom:  We were all young and quite fortunate to have the Willow Grove NAS NAVY NATS within a few hours of home. Every 4th year. It seems that all we talked about was going to the NATS and the magazines had great coverage.
 Hi Keith : You are corrrect- Jay Dee Falcon. Out of respect for John during his senior years, we called him JD.

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2024, 08:57:05 AM »
Be cool if someone has the ability to clean up the names on the flight board.
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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2024, 10:33:58 AM »
Hi Tom :
We had AMA stunt and Old Tyme. The left list (AMA) has a few recognizable names including our buddy, Paul Rizkalla. Wonder what he's been up to lately.

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2024, 12:37:43 PM »
Be cool if someone has the ability to clean up the names on the flight board.

I gave it a quickie ham fisted try, just with brute force of contrast and sharpening tools, you can recognize a lot more names, but it's still pretty bad, I'd need a higher res scan of the image where the person doing the scanning was optimizing for the scoreboard, not the surroundings. I washed it through a text preservation software also, and it made some of it worse while making some of it better. That's AI for you... it's best guess isn't always best, heh. Someone who was a local flyer and "period correct" might have a decent chance of guessing a lot of names from what they see here.

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Re: JD Falcon photos
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2024, 01:33:43 PM »
Thanks Eric!

Neak Beekman
Andy Lee
Paul Rizkalla
Rich Tower?


John Miske

Bet Bubba could fill in a lot of blanks
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