Author Topic: Don's Profile warbird #20 (Read 6887 times)

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **on:** March 07, 2016, 12:33:24 PM »

Drawings for the latest in a long series should be finished soon. Recip engine, tricycle gear, has flown off of a Navy carrier. Proportions look like it should build light and hopefully fly really well!
Don

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2016, 02:52:34 PM »

What is it???

Tony Drago · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2016, 03:24:40 PM »

Ryan FR Fireball ?

TigreST · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2016, 06:46:20 PM »

Or maybe.....

.....the Douglas BTD "Destroyer".

Tony Drago · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2016, 07:30:42 PM »

Or the Dark Shark. In the back ground

wwwarbird · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2016, 08:08:53 PM »

First thing that came to mind was a T-28, but I'm thinking not. You don't mention "plural" engines, but maybe a Tigercat?

bill bischoff · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2016, 09:30:59 PM »

Could even be a P-39...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2016, 10:04:40 PM »

Quote from: bill bischoff on March 07, 2016, 09:30:59 PM

Could even be a P-39...

...or maybe the "Airabonita", which was basically a taildragger P-39? I suppose that Bell may have tested the P-39 first, before realizing the gear wasn't up to the task? I'm not sure which version came first.

On the other hand it's been a long time since we've seen a jet come off of Hutch's drawing board, maybe an F9F Panther?

bill bischoff · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2016, 06:11:20 AM »

2 words: Re-Cip!

TigreST · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2016, 08:47:12 AM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on March 07, 2016, 08:08:53 PM

......... You don't mention "plural" engines, but maybe a Tigercat?

Nah...it's been done. But not this one:

dale gleason · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2016, 10:02:06 AM »

When "H" draws up a set of plans, people pay attention.......he does them the "old fashioned way"....he draws them. They are stand-alone works of art, but, the planes are outstanding flyers to boot.

C'mon, Don, what's up your sleeve this time? An MO-1 perhaps?

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2016, 12:01:09 PM »

None of the above although some imaginative guesses! Both the US Army and the USAF flew them. Not the S-2 even though Flora's brother did fly these. Got to watch him do a trap while on a dependents day cruise out of Long Beach a long time ago.

Steve Fitton · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2016, 01:55:19 PM »

Maybe a Navion?

TigreST · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2016, 02:48:11 PM »

Quote from: Steve Fitton on March 08, 2016, 01:55:19 PM

Maybe a Navion?

When that Navion gets airborne the simply slow the Carrier down so it can actually clear the deck. Catapult not required!

Thank you

thank you

...three shows a day!

TigreST · « **Reply #14 on:** March 08, 2016, 02:55:33 PM »

T-34 Mentor?

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2016, 03:02:35 PM »

Congratulations Steve you got it right! The drawings are finished, Now I need to get them to the engineering shop to get them put into PDF form and compose the text document that goes with all the plans. You will get a set of them when ready. This all came about after chatting at length with my old flying bud from the 40's who happens to own two real Navions. Inspiration struck and this is the result!! With the longer nose it should not require much if any lead in the nose, come out around 45 ounces and fly great! For any good 40 or 46 engine. I already have done the T=34, my granddaughter soloed one of these and is now a Naval Aviator!
Don.

david beazley · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:34:39 PM »

Now if we could just get someone to turn your plans into kits!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2016, 07:00:41 PM »

Quote from: bill bischoff on March 08, 2016, 06:11:20 AM

2 words: Re-Cip!

Oh yeah, DUH, I forgot that part.

I did think of the S-2 as a possibility, but I never would have guessed the Navion.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2016, 07:01:58 PM »

Quote from: david beazley on March 08, 2016, 05:34:39 PM

Now if we could just get someone to turn your plans into kits!

No doubt.

john ohnimus · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2016, 06:46:06 AM »

Always have like the Navion.!! Look forward to seeing the finished product!!

john e. holliday · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2016, 09:47:48 AM »

Hey Don, don't forget to put the old DOC down for a set of plans. I know I'm slow but the B-25 is getting dope put it.

Dennis Leonhardi · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2016, 01:20:24 PM »

The Navion is a personal favorite here ... I grew up in Owatonna, (Southern) Minnesota and admired one owned by Terry Cashman (of Cashman Nurseries), a customer on my paper route and a family I several times baby sat for (really nice people!).

Terry set a distance record for a private plane in the '50s, flying from Owatonna to Texas non-stop.

Quite a bird for its time!

http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/Navion.htm

Dennis

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:57:04 PM »

I'm sort of warming up to the idea of a P-39; long nose, trike gear, carrier qualified (by the Brits anyway) and could be done either as a war bird or clipped wing racer. #21 maybe Don?

john e. holliday · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2016, 10:28:10 AM »

Thanks Dennis, that is quite a story on the Navion. It also has nice pleasing lines.

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2016, 01:09:58 PM »

Dad managed to wangle an L-17 for the USAF ROTC detachment at WAZZU around 1958-9. The pilots in the detachment could then fly to Fairchild AFB and do their monthly flight time to maintain their active flight status (and pay), rather than make the 90 mile drive in snowy weather. Or maybe they could just fly the L-17 to put in their hours? Anyway, one evening in June 1960, on my 15th birthday, we went out to the airport and made a short circuit around the Palouse countryside...a farmyard light here and a radio tower light there. I already didn't see very well, and basically couldn't see chit in the dark. It was all very unauthorized, of course. All I recall about his opinion of the L-17 was that it was underpowered, so probably an early production unit.

Steve

Perry Rose · « **Reply #25 on:** March 10, 2016, 02:13:23 PM »

What's an Army Navion doing on a Navy ship? Some kind of trial?

Dalton Hammett · « **Reply #26 on:** March 10, 2016, 05:18:04 PM »

One of my favorites, I trying to finish up an old Larry Richards Super Navion now. I would definitely like a set of the plans.......

Dalton H.

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #27 on:** March 10, 2016, 06:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Perry Rose on March 10, 2016, 02:13:23 PM

What's an Army Navion doing on a Navy ship? Some kind of trial?

Not like Army B-25's never set foot on a Navy ship! The L-17 was probably a test. They flew a C-130 off a carrier awhile back, too.

Steve

Gerald Schamp · « **Reply #28 on:** March 10, 2016, 08:47:36 PM »

don, put me down for a set also, I'm in the paint stages of the T-34C. This is gonna be a neat plane. Got it landing gear today, fillets and so on. Have not done anything yet with the Corsair. This next fall will be the time for it. Got Mustang fever at the moment.

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2016, 07:15:04 PM »

The drawings are finished and the pdf files now reside in my computer. I am going to ask $10.00 for this one as a bunch of time and effort went into it. If you would like a set let me know via email that $10.00 is agreeable and I have a good address to send them back to.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #30 on:** March 12, 2016, 09:04:48 AM »

If they are up to your standards, $10.00 is not enough.

Steve Kocher · « **Reply #31 on:** March 12, 2016, 11:26:44 AM »

Doc is right. $10.00 is not enough. I received my plans last night (Don, your check is in the mail). As are all of his drawings, it's another work of art.

I told my boss that I need a bigger office so that I can display all of his drawings. He told me that I would have to be promoted to get a bigger office. I told him that I was OK with that.

Don, if you get the urge to draw another, the F3B-1 in its pre-war colors would be a truly remarkable subject.

dale gleason · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2016, 07:24:29 AM »

I went to the last hobby shop with Don H yesterday to pick up some stuff, they had what I needed to conjure up a Lipo powered starter. Don got some stuff printed at Staples...L-17 Navion ribs set plans. WOW! This is not your profile plane from the fifties! Well, in a way, I guess it is.

I bought a set and will build this machine. You've got to see it to believe it. The crowning touch of Don's planes is the dihedral, to me. If the real plane had dihedral, Don's does. In flight, they just look "right". dg

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2016, 06:55:08 PM »

Ah yes! One must try to get the vertical CG close to the right postion, thus dihedral. But, my rendition has about half as much as the real thing! There goes my scale points!