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Mike Griffin

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Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« on: February 20, 2012, 09:48:06 PM »
Please go to WINGS ON STRINGS in Vendors Corner for details, specs, pricing and availability.

Thank you
Mike
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 10:48:20 PM »
 One of the coolest looking designs of all time IMO. This one is very tempting. y1
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 04:31:57 AM »
Man o man is that sweet or what? #^  H^^
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 05:27:54 AM »
Bill's P-38 was a thing of beauty also...the P-38 had two bellcranks and hidden pushrods, I believe....

Bill is a great guy and a terrific flier......
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 07:55:23 AM »
Mike...is the RSM version going to be an exact replica or somewhat " modified " for todays kits standards ?
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 08:00:46 AM »
Quote from: Gene O'Keefe on February 21, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
Mike...is the RSM version going to be an exact replica or somewhat " modified " for todays kits standards ?

Great question Gene.  Eric just called me last night about this.  Let me get back with him and ask him and I will get back with you...

Mike
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 08:33:13 AM »
Rich,
Being a lifelong friend of Bill Suarez I have Bill's original P-38 drawing in addition to the M.A.N version.

The P-38 controls go from the center bellcrank to a flap in the aft end of the fuselage pod. The flaps drive the external flap with a horn and the pushrod going through the boom to the elevator.  It is not clear if the is a pushrod only in the inboard boom of in both booms. I will have to look again at there original drawing to see if there is a push rod in both booms.
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 09:06:05 AM »
Mike, what kind of pedigree does this airplane have?  Contest wins?  Published in magazine?  Considered a competition stunter or just sport/scale?  I would really like to own one, but have bought so many planes that I wonder if I will ever build them all.
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 09:54:13 AM »
Quote from: Dick Pacini on February 21, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Mike, what kind of pedigree does this airplane have?  Contest wins?  Published in magazine?  Considered a competition stunter or just sport/scale?  I would really like to own one, but have bought so many planes that I wonder if I will ever build them all.

Hi Dick,

This one was published in a "Twin" article in a 1971 American Modeler.  It was flown in the '70 NATS and as early as 1969 so it is Classic legal.  Good enough to do well at the NATS.  Fox .35 for original power.

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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 10:21:31 AM »
Quote from: Dick Pacini on February 21, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Mike, what kind of pedigree does this airplane have?  Contest wins?  Published in magazine?  Considered a competition stunter or just sport/scale?  I would really like to own one, but have bought so many planes that I wonder if I will ever build them all.

Dick what Bill Little posted is right.  I will try to get as much additional information as I can and post it for you all.  Eric got confirmation from Robin Sizemore on the Classic Legal status...it is classic legal. 

Mike
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 10:44:18 AM »
Quote from: Mike Griffin on February 21, 2012, 10:21:31 AM
Dick what Bill Little posted is right.  I will try to get as much additional information as I can and post it for you all.  Eric got confirmation from Robin Sizemore on the Classic Legal status...it is classic legal. 

Mike

Hi Mike,

Of course what I posted is right! LL~ LL~ LL~  I have had the magazine since it was published.
I only post something like that if I know all the facts.  I don't guess about those things.

Bill

P.S. the "Twin" article was Vic Macaluso's .35 size F-8 and it is NOT Classic legal.  Vic has testified that he didn't start on the F-8 until early 1970.
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 11:37:34 AM »
Quote from: Bill Little on February 21, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
Hi Mike,

Of course what I posted is right! LL~ LL~ LL~  I have had the magazine since it was published.
I only post something like that if I know all the facts.  I don't guess about those things.

Bill

P.S. the "Twin" article was Vic Macaluso's .35 size F-8 and it is NOT Classic legal.  Vic has testified that he didn't start on the F-8 until early 1970.

 BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 11:46:24 AM »
Quote from: Bill Little on February 21, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
Hi Mike,

Bill

P.S. the "Twin" article was Vic Macaluso's .35 size F-8 and it is NOT Classic legal.  Vic has testified that he didn't start on the F-8 until early 1970.

I was there when he brought it out. I may have to cool it with these recollections, people are going to know how old I am. LL~  (Yeah, that Neanderthal guy and I, just didn't get along).
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 12:09:33 PM »
As I remember, Dave Shirley built one of these a couple of years back that looked really sweet. He posted pics of it here somewhere.
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 12:19:02 PM »
Quote from: proparc on February 21, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
I was there when he brought it out. I may have to cool it with these recollections, people are going to know how old I am. LL~  (Yeah, that Neanderthal guy and I, just didn't get along).

I just wish I had that great of a memory Terence.... y1

Mike
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 12:53:33 PM »
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 01:00:14 PM »
Dave's F-4 flies as good as it looks, been there seen that.  8)
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 09:33:07 PM »
I talked with Eric Rule today and he has built and flown two of the F 4 Phantoms and he assures me that they fly as good as they look.

Mike
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 07:32:13 AM »
I did some research and here is the magazine article:

http://airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/phantom-jun-1971-aam.htm
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 08:09:59 AM »
There is no doubt. Bill's F4 was and is a winner.
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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 09:34:06 AM »
Me, I am just waiting on the release of Vic's .35 size F-8 Crusader which was the twin to Bill's F-4 in the articles. ;D

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Re: Introducing the release of the Bill Suarez F4 Phantom
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 02:08:14 PM »
Looking at the plans, I hope the RSM version has a much more blunter leading edge.....waiting to hear what Mike has to say when hears back from Eric.
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