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Igor’s timer? Documentation
« on: November 01, 2024, 02:53:06 PM »
Howdy yall.
I’m looking for information on Igor’s timer using a Jetti Spin.
Anyone have the latest information/ documentation or URL? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

I have been crawling the electron section with no luck.
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2024, 06:09:02 PM »
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2024, 06:13:52 PM »
Ah ok. Scrolled down found a new link.
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2024, 06:50:45 PM »
Well apparently that link is broken also. ☹️
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2024, 08:30:48 AM »
http://87.197.134.200/timers_a/timers_a.htm

You can also get to the file from Maxbee.net under products/active timers

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2024, 12:02:36 PM »
Starting point for my page is maxbee.net  8)

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2024, 02:47:18 PM »
Starting point for my page is maxbee.net  8)

Any update as to when the new timers are going to be ready?
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2024, 12:29:36 AM »
:- )))))))) ... well it is, but noone wrote documentation yet (I am telling him every evening to speed up the work, but instead writing he reads internet forums like this one  VD~) and I am also waiting for some testers having latest version. I hane 2 feedbacks and waiting for one more.

AND Matt, since I am writing here and not doing what I have to do, let me write one information which is not directly related to timer, but to ESC. I got in Muncie, one ESC which makes strange things, so after inspection of experts, the problem is not ESC itself, which otherwise works perfectly, but the problem was Deans connector which has its flat contact somehow damaged (looks like after some spark or something) and it simply did not have proper contact, making input voltage variation, impossible spin up or stipping during run.

The problem of Deans is that it has very large and strong contact, but only as a new. The contact is ONE plate which makes large area, what is perfect, but if there is some dirt particle, the area converts to single line or even single point with only fraction of conductivity (seems OK without load, but fails with motor). And in case that it is damaged by some spark, it will never work properly again. That was this case.

That is why I do not reccomend Deans for this, choose connectors with several segments and even best are tose where "spring" material is NOT also the contact material (like it is for example XT60) they works well, but not forever. Fortunately failing XT60 or golds or similar is easy to recognize - if it goes easy in and out or even freely rotating when connected (golds), spring is already too weak (that is case of Samatha in France) and it is on way to fail. But Deans are impossible to inspect by eyes or by feeling, so it is better not to use them at all.

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2024, 10:47:51 AM »
Yes...what Igor said..


DO NOT USE DEAN'S CONNECTORS!

PERIOD...

I HAVE experienced their wrath!

Not worth the risk.

Don't do it...

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2024, 02:04:11 PM »
Yes...what Igor said..


DO NOT USE DEAN'S CONNECTORS!

PERIOD...

I HAVE experienced their wrath!

Not worth the risk.

Don't do it...

If not Deans, XT, or any spring type connector the what are you using?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2024, 03:11:51 PM »
I have had one Deans fail and -0- XT60s fail.  I got some burps Tuesday that may be what Igor is talking about.  My profile doesn't use an arming plug and the ESC Deans is pitted pretty bad from the sparks.  Never thought about that. Just ordered 25 XT60 sets to replace fleet wide.

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2024, 04:45:08 PM »
I have had one Deans fail and -0- XT60s fail.  I got some burps Tuesday that may be what Igor is talking about.  My profile doesn't use an arming plug and the ESC Deans is pitted pretty bad from the sparks.  Never thought about that. Just ordered 25 XT60 sets to replace fleet wide.

Ken
 

It’s what I use as well. There is really no weight savings with a deans connector according to my scales.
I am curious what others use.
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2024, 07:38:39 PM »
If not Deans, XT, or any spring type connector the what are you using?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks

I use IC3 connectors.

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2024, 10:48:11 PM »
I have never used IC3 but I have used EC3.  What makes either of them better then XT60?  All of them are bullet connectors in a pretty plastic wrapper.  It seemed that the EC3 was a bit tighter than the XT60.

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2024, 05:08:06 PM »
I use IC3 connectors.

Thanks!

Googling IC3 😎
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2024, 11:42:45 AM »
Where is the best place to get IC3 plugs?  Been looking around.  Looks like you have to get male and female sections separately?  At least in bulk.
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2024, 05:35:02 PM »
Paul, I made up this set of charts that helped me understand the active timer.  The diagrams gave me a visual picture of what was happening.  Maybe they'll help.  I think they are accurate.  Caveat Emptor!

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2024, 10:52:29 PM »
Why the IC3 vs the EC3 especially if you do not need the third wire.  Both are nothing more than child proof bullet connectors.  What makes either of them better than an XT60?

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2024, 12:59:33 AM »
Where is the best place to get IC3 plugs?  Been looking around.  Looks like you have to get male and female sections separately?  At least in bulk.

Horizon.  $25 for either 25 males or 25 females. 
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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2024, 02:36:24 AM »
Paul, I made up this set of charts that helped me understand the active timer.  The diagrams gave me a visual picture of what was happening.  Maybe they'll help.  I think they are accurate.  Caveat Emptor!

Thanks Frank, nice description. I am actually finishing new description so I can post a picture for 5" props with operation point at 10 000 as we use it with our 12x5 props.

BTW can I borrow that link to distribute it?

 

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2024, 07:56:28 AM »
I wish I could have stayed for the WC.  It was good to briefly meet you in  person.  Certainly, feel free to use the description link.

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2024, 06:54:57 PM »
Paul, I made up this set of charts that helped me understand the active timer.  The diagrams gave me a visual picture of what was happening.  Maybe they'll help.  I think they are accurate.  Caveat Emptor!

This is really cool stuff. This makes it very easy to see what is happening and how to adjust.
Thank you

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Re: Igor’s timer? Documentation
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2024, 09:06:36 AM »
Paul, I made up this set of charts that helped me understand the active timer.  The diagrams gave me a visual picture of what was happening.  Maybe they'll help.  I think they are accurate.  Caveat Emptor!

Thanks

Added to my files.
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