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Title: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 14, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
Guys,

I'm looking at some old 35mm slides from the Lake Charles Nats in '74 and I'm looking at a really cool stunt ship, it looks like a T-38/(F5?) white, with the flags of I believe the NATO countries on the nose. Finish is impeccable BTW

Sorry, I do not have the capacity at present to scan slides, but does anyone remember this ship? It's pretty unique so somebody can probably identify it by the description.

Thanks,
Chuck
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Mike Keville on December 14, 2012, 05:26:55 PM
Sounds like the T-38 by the late Dave Rees that was published as a construction article in FM.  Waiting for someone more knowledgable to ring-in.  (Keith?) (Ted?) (Wynn?)
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Mike Keville on December 14, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
Thanx, Bobba!  I was pretty sure he was asking about Dave's T-38 but wasn't completely certain.  Glad you rang-in and verified it.
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Dave Denison on December 14, 2012, 10:27:45 PM
Bob, Chuck.

Bob thanks for the information on a piece of Nats. history. The story of Dave Rees is most interesting, his story and his life make a great read.

Chuck you and I have a common interest in Dave’s T – 38. I was fortunate a couple of weeks ago to acquire a large stack of Flying Models magazines, most in pretty bad shape. In that stack was the issue with the plans for Dave’s Dazzler. I saved the few magazines that I could, and disposed of the remainder because they were so badly molded.

I’ve attached a PDF file of Dave’s T – 38 plans. This one is on my “along term some day to build list”. I hope all this interest, will get someone started on a build of the T – 38. Please enjoy.

Regards.
Dave.

AMA  41041
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 15, 2012, 04:25:22 AM
Bob, that's it, I thought these slides were Oshkosh but I was at Lake Charles as well.

Wow, look at the pressure recovery on that airfoil!

Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: PJ Rowland on December 15, 2012, 06:36:57 AM
Dont let Banjok see that...

Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 15, 2012, 09:04:36 AM
Uh oh, just had a brainstorm...

That ship is BEGGING to be scaled up and flown as an electric.

I may be on a mission....

Chuck
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: John Hammonds on December 15, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I always liked his Dazzler, There was an article by Dave in the Aeromodeller Annual 1977-78 about the design. I've included it below for anyone who is interested.

TTFN
John.
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Randy Ryan on December 15, 2012, 02:17:12 PM
I am always happy to hear about a modeler's migrations through the disciplines. I am one who flys all but have also had specialization periods in my life. Bob's story about Dave Rees was an epiphany to me because I had always known Dave as a superb FF scale modeler and had no idea of his Stunt background. In those years I was FF gas specialized and the rest of the magazine coverage was not important to me so I didn't bother with it. Reminds me of Jean Pailet whom I've known for many years on the FF field and no idea of his Stunt background until one day at an engine swap he told me about it.

Not trying to Shanghi this thread, just commenting that fine modelers are like fine musicians, they are broad in their interest and experience and it just makes them better and better at what they do.
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Mike Keville on December 15, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
Continuing with the Thread Drift (sorry...):

Several other well-known FF and RC folks have also been known to fly Stunt.  Dave Platt, Norm Furutani, Walt Ghio, and of course Chip Hyde, who's said to be doing rather well with it.

I'm sure there are others.
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: proparc on December 15, 2012, 03:52:18 PM
Bob that's a fantastic story.

Thanks H^^
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Warren Walker on December 15, 2012, 06:12:02 PM

Bob,
I could read and or listen to you tell stories for hours.

 W.W.
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: john e. holliday on December 16, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
I am still waiting for Bob's book to be finished.   
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Michael Boucher on December 16, 2012, 09:38:40 AM
Hi Bob, Thanks for posting the pictures of Dave's planes and filling in on his control line history. I knew he had flown control line and had heard a short version as to why he went into free flight but didn't know the whole story. I have the video of him flying free flight electric models, it's wonderful. He was such a talented and nice individual. Thanks again, Mike  H^^
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Trostle on December 16, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
There is a special feature article by Dave that was published in Flying Models, shortly after the Talon had appeared there as a construction feature, that depicted in word and photos how Dave crafted those unbelievable cockpit interiors. A truly gifted craftsman...

Bob Hunt

That Dave Rees article, "Lightweight Cockpit Interiors for Stunters" was in FM, Feb 75.  All 7 pages of photos and details.  Excellent article, as was everything that Dave Rees did.

Keiith
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: Chris McMillin on December 16, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
Add to that list Dean Pappas, Tony Fracowiak, Dave Brown, Dave Gierke, Jim Kostecky, Leon Shulman and probably hundreds of others!  y1

Bob Hunt

Bobby,
I fly with Tony F. about once a month and he always asks me stuff about Stunt and further threatens to build one of the many Stunt kits that he has.
Chris...
Title: Re: Identify This Ship Circa 1974
Post by: NED-088 on December 16, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
Bobby,
I fly with Tony F. about once a month and he always asks me stuff about Stunt and further threatens to build one of the many Stunt kits that he has.
Chris...
Then tell him I'm still grateful that he handed me the bottle of cyano he had in his toolbox, when he came for a training session at our field prior to the WCh F3A, here in the Netherlands.
I had a ply servo bracket come loose in one of my gliders and cyano was not yet widely used over here.
We were advised by our club that we couldn't fly CL that day or else I would have brought my F2B model as well.