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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Randy Cuberly on May 13, 2016, 12:07:53 PM

Title: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Randy Cuberly on May 13, 2016, 12:07:53 PM
A trivia question relative to the WC's.

Does anyone know how many of the top 15 (finals) were Electric vs IC.

Is Orestes flying Electric or still with IC?

Yes I know it doesn't matter but I'm curious!

Thanks,

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Dave_Trible on May 13, 2016, 12:36:01 PM
Orestes went electric 3-4 years ago.  I'm wondering what Richie Kornmeier had under the hood.  He won a few years back with  a ST .60-  against the pipes and maybe a few electric.  Hope we'll get some details and photos.  Also not sure if Orestes used an accelerometer or not.  Don't think he was using one at the Nats last year- didn't ask or notice.

Dave
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: jose modesto on May 13, 2016, 02:20:37 PM
Yes he used an Igor system for both.
Jose
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Randy Cuberly on May 13, 2016, 06:43:15 PM
Thanks Guys.  I hope someone publishes a list of what powerplants most of the top 15 (at least were using.  Beginning to sound like David was the only IC engine in the hunt...

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Lauri Malila on May 13, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
There was 6 ic engines in finals; 3 PA's (US, JPN, RUS), 1 DR .68 (UA), 1 Skif 9,5 (RUS) and one 4-stroke (CH).

L
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Joe Yau on May 13, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
Thanks Guys.  I hope someone publishes a list of what powerplants most of the top 15 (at least were using.  Beginning to sound like David was the only IC engine in the hunt...

Randy Cuberly

I believe Yang Jun (5th place) is 4-stroke

https://youtu.be/4FKAXDDK9iU
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: wwwarbird on May 13, 2016, 08:07:20 PM

 Yeah, it will be interesting to see which powerplants placed where. I still believe it's got a lot more to do with who's on the handle than anything though.

 Another question, I've never heard, what was the first year of the C/L World Champs? Has it run consecutively throughout?
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Russell Bond on May 14, 2016, 03:38:45 AM
1960 and yes.
I'm sure this list is correct.
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Russell Bond on May 14, 2016, 03:40:38 AM
BTW, the top 4 were electric and using Igor's system.
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: pmackenzie on May 14, 2016, 04:19:35 AM
I think the top 4 motors were Cobra,AXI,Plettenberg,Plettenberg.

Pat MacKenzie
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: wwwarbird on May 14, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
1960 and yes.
I'm sure this list is correct.

 Thanks Russell, that's an interesting list. y1
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: proparc on May 14, 2016, 05:17:11 PM
Kinda amazing. When they hold the F3A World RC pattern Championships, the first thing they want to know is what powerplants were the all the contestants using.
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on May 15, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
Some people think that, by copying whatever hardware the experts are using, that some of the success will rub off!

Floyd
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Brett Buck on May 15, 2016, 09:55:25 AM
Some people think that, by copying whatever hardware the experts are using, that some of the success will rub off!

   Possibly because the experts know what you need to be competitive. Developing a good stunt powerplant system can take years of careful experimentation by someone who knows what they are looking for.

    Brett
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Rich Perry on May 15, 2016, 09:57:38 AM
Of course you have to fly, but for aspiring pilots it is helpful to know what is working.   "We stand on the shoulders of giants"
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Randy Cuberly on May 16, 2016, 12:14:15 PM
Some people think that, by copying whatever hardware the experts are using, that some of the success will rub off!

Floyd

My reason for starting this thread was purely technical interest.  At age 75 (albeit in good health) and with a cabinet full of PA's and RO Jetts and Pipes, I've decided not to really explore the realm of electrics personally.  I am however technically interested in what's working for everyone.  Over the years I've copied pretty much what the "Big Guys" use and find that it nearly always works well for me too!  No I don't fly as well as any of those guys but do fly well enough to tell the difference between what works and what doesn't.  I'm always interested in the equipment others are using, even those not in the expert ranks.

An old habit developed from Motorcycle Flat Track racing in the 70's...it worked there too.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Tim Wescott on May 16, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
   Possibly because the experts know what you need to be competitive. Developing a good stunt powerplant system can take years of careful experimentation by someone who knows what they are looking for.

Oh damn.  Well, I guess I need to throw away that article by Joe Shmoe on "hopping up stunt engines", and put the cutoff wheel back on my Dremel.
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Igor Burger on May 16, 2016, 11:30:06 PM
   Possibly because the experts know what you need to be competitive. Developing a good stunt powerplant system can take years of careful experimentation by someone who knows what they are looking for.

    Brett

That is very true. If I do not count conversation from ancient times (compuserve etc) what is that "best" regulation, I spent 4 years developing proper formula (every week in winter I tested new and new software in gym) until I could really offer safe solution (in 2008). Not so easy as someone can think.
Title: Re: IC vs Electric at WC.
Post by: Igor Burger on May 16, 2016, 11:32:21 PM

 Another question, I've never heard, what was the first year of the C/L World Champs? Has it run consecutively throughout?

As was already written 1960, but there was unoffcial WCH in 1958 on Expo fair ... won by Jozef Gabris