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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Avaiojet on September 08, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
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You know the story.
"You can have these as long as you take them away. No I cannot help."
So, old as they are and being free, I cotted away, three trips actually, a bunch of cabinets without help.
Unfortunately, all are upper cabinets, that is, 12" deep.
Out of the lot, I have what I can use for upper cabinets. Made of light tin, so they will be easier to install.
I would like to use the heavy wood cabinets on the floor. Wish they were 24" deep, but I have to work with what I have.
Yes, there's a question on the horizon.
With all of this said, bottom cabinets, being only 12" deep, I was thinking of a counter top 18" deep. Certainly shy of the normal 24" deep.
Question.
Anyone working on a counter top 18" deep or less. Is it doable? I do still have my bench on casters that's has a surface size of 36" X 96".
BTW. This cabinet wall will be behind me as I work. I'll stand between this wall of cabinets and my bench.
Thanks in advance.
Charles
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Seeing there was so much interest, I thought I'd take a few photos.
Kinda like a before and after photo. This is "before." Maybe a Garage Build Thread? Well, at least an "after" photo.
I have that row of wood cabinets set up to get an idea of the length. They will be screwed together, leveled and sit on pressure treated 2x4's.
The other tin cabinets on the bench, will get lagged to the cement wall. Cement, bummer!
Lighting will be last.
Work spaces for building model airplanes are extreamly important, at least to me.
I can't get a thing done unless I'm unorganized. n~
Charles
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Charles in answer to your question about a work space 18" deep: I have worked on one that was 24" deep but found it just barely acceptable. 18" would be pushing it. The root chords of CL model are not 18" wide or at least I have never seen on that wide but in anycase, you would not have room for much anything else on the work top. I have a friend in our club who builds on top of a TV tray so I guess anything is possible.
Mike
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Charles in answer to your question about a work space 18" deep: I have worked on one that was 24" deep but found it just barely acceptable. 18" would be pushing it. The root chords of CL model are not 18" wide or at least I have never seen on that wide but in anycase, you would not have room for much anything else on the work top. I have a friend in our club who builds on top of a TV tray so I guess anything is possible.Mike
Mike,
What a pleasure hearing from you and thank you for the reply.
Just so you'll know, you got me thinking.
I do have this bureau that the wife is tossing. Not high enough she says.
With or without the drawers it could be useful. No door faces to keep out dust, but with properly spaced shelves, could work out.
Without the legs it measures 25x64x19.
Here's the thing, it can fit in with a cabinet on each side.
I altered the drawing. Bureau seen in red.
Increases the pegboard area. Increases the counter top length to 144" or there about.
With this set-up I could have a counter top 20" deep.
Thanks again for the reply. I'm thinking!
Charles
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Here's where I'm at.
Looks like the dept of the counter top will be 21". The length will be 123".
I called around for pricing. 190.00 is the best price for this custom counter top and a 12" high backsplash.
Now, what color is best choice? I'm thinking white.
Charles
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Here's the latest update on my Workshop Build. ;D
Turns out, the Formica counter top will be 126" in length and 21" deep. Thank you Mike for waking me up on that.
All lower cabinets and that bureau will be placed forward and I'll fill the sides to the wall to close the end cabinets off. Thank you Motorman for that suggestion.
I've removed the legs and the upper and lower decorative trim on the bureau. This will allow for flush mounting to my other cabinets.
For the bureau, I'll keep the three top draws and add center shelves in the lower area. As seen in the drawing.
The pegboard area is 36"x63". I would have liked more, but what can you do. It is what it is.
Custom counter top and the back splash will take 10 days or so. This gives me time to get the base for the cabinets in place.
Lot of work but worth it in the end.
Charles
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My garage is the only place I can build, so until I get it operating, I'm dead in the water.
Home Depot today. Rented a truck for 19.95 for the first hour. Did this so I could bring home two 120.75" 2x4's for the toe kick.
Rained cats and dogs. Wipers didn't work and neither did the A/C.
Gear arm lever wouldn't come out of park. Well it did, finally.
Whoever used it before me never filled the tank. I put 6 miles on the truck and stopped filling at 1.5 gallons.
Told the manager about all the issues, didn't want to get blamed, she gave me a 10.00 credit.
Took a half hour. Not a bad investment so far.
Here's the lumber, two pieces, 120.75" in length. I'll cut the end pieces tomorrow and try to get the bottom cabinets joined.
Charles
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You must live in the wrong state, in Oklahoma everybody either owns a pickup or knows someone that does. Pretty sure Texas is the same.
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You must live in the wrong state, in Oklahoma everybody either owns a pickup or knows someone that does. Pretty sure Texas is the same.
Bob,
Where I live, pickup trucks are only allowed if they are garaged. They cannot stay in the drivway after 6:00 PM.
Everyone I know with a pickup works during the day.
I made headway with the cabinets today. Photos tonight!
Thanks for the reply!
Charles
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If somebody from downtown wanted to take my pickup at night, they'd have to pry it from my cold, dead...driveway.
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Well, I've made some progress. A bit.
Framed up the LE and TE of the toe kick. End pieces and center pieces are in place.
Recessed the toe kick 3 inches.
Cabinets were clamped and screwed together. Alignment wasn't all that important, slight twist, not worth steaming out. Counter top will take care of that.
All drawer guides and unneeded material was removed. I got experience there. ;D
Left the three upper drawers.
Upper metal cabinets are not really in place, they go over the counter top, but you can get an idea of the finished assembly.
Pegboard between the cabinets. Space between the bureau top and the counter top bottom.
No idea what all this weighs. No way to get it to the Post Office. n~
Charles
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Me I don't need a pickup to carry extra long lumber. When I was helping a fellow church member remodel houses, some 12 foot boards were needed. I said no problem. We stacked a dozen boards on top of the old Explorer and cinched them down front and rear. I have even hauled sheets of plywood on top of the old Explorer. Your new work area is looking good.
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John,
What a pleasure!
I'm trying to create a good space.
I'm off to Home Depot again, this time for material for shelves in that bureau. I'm thinking 1/2" thick plywood, but I'll have to see about that when I get there.
Top shelf in the bureau will be 10" deep. 16 3/4 for the bottom floor of the bureau.
Charles
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I picked up shelving material from Home Depot. 10" laminated, 12.00, for the bureau top shelf and cheap, 4.00, compressed board for the bottom shelf.
Home Depot ripped it at 16.75". I'll have to make cuts to fit the shelves.
One quick coat of white semi-gloss paint, used a three inch roller. Did the side of the cabinet also.
The counter top guy wants to see the install before he cuts anything. Doesn't trust my measurements. Gee. n~
A glitch because I'll loose a day or two.
No, he doesn't fly models. Spends his free time showing a 55 T-Bird.
Is time free?
Charles
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Well, Doug, the laminate guy showed up.
Thinks I should buy a classic car instead of building models. Didn't tell him I did classic cars my whole life, what's the point?
He took my color chip and is going to call me this morning. Let me know if I can have that color for his quoted price of 190.00.
Probally won't get the counter top till Monday. Bummer. HB~>
Charles
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Still waiting on the laminate guy.
I did cut my upper and lower shelves.
Might have a photo tonight.
Charles
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I lived without a pickup for almost 4 years with a second hand Harbor Freight 4x8 folding trailer and an old S-10 Blazer . Just bought a second hand Dodge pickup the Blazer died a horrible death but still have the trailer its really handy to have. ;D
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I wish I lived in a neighborhood that allower pick-ups and trailers. Oh well. ;D
Like Doug said, the formica guy, he delivered the stuff on Sunday.
Picked up some wood and cement nails for the counter top backing and I expect to spend a bit of time on it.
Photos tonight!
BTW. The Mig-3, my little cutie, can't wait for the space to be finished.
Charles
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A neighborhood that doesn't allow pick-ups!!!! Let me know and I just may move in. Of course I am always in trouble with my neighbors and the little town of Shawnee. It was really great when they said my cement mixer was a trailer.
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A neighborhood that doesn't allow pick-ups!!!! Let me know and I just may move in. Of course I am always in trouble with my neighbors and the little town of Shawnee. It was really great when they said my cement mixer was a trailer.
John,
I'll bite. Why do you have a cement mixer?
Charles
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I'll go REALLY FAR out on a limb here and make a guess that John has a cement mixer to mix cement with. But that's just me. I would think someone might try mixing margaritas with one, maybe even pancake mix, but either way the gritty results just wouldn't be to my taste. But they do work well for mixing concrete and brick mortar though. I've probably mixed a thousand yards of the stuff a half a yard at a time during high school! y1 y1
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Well, as the saying goes, here's the rest of the story. The cement mixer used to belong to my sister. When my brother-in-law passed away she had no place to keep it. So I took it. It come in handy for mixing cement for my storage shed for the mowing equipment. The neighbor used it on his mother's house for putting rock facing on it and building a fire place. And I also used it for the foundation of the shop I am now in. But, it's end came when years ago the first part of the elm tree came down. The second part of the elm tree came down this year and I had the rest of it put on the ground. What was left of the cement mixer went to the metal salvage yard.
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Just a quick update.
Starting to shape up.
White pegboard from Home Depot.
Still looks unorginized, but as I open boxes and put stuff away, it'll come together.
I hope.
Charles
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Nice!!!
Marcus
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The "Mark" of Excellence!
Marcus,
The space is small, one car garage. I'm doing the best I can.
I'll be in there all day tomorrow trying to find a place for all my gear. Everything has been in storage.
Still a ways to go.
Charles
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Ah, that last pic looks like my shop, but still too neat. LL~ LL~ LL~