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Title: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Allen Brickhaus on October 22, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
Can any one help with the request.

Allen
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Avaiojet on October 23, 2012, 06:50:19 AM
This won't help you with your color photos but:

There is a kit available, or there once was.

26" in span, for CL, from NEXUS, MA102 may be the kit number and the designer is Spring.

Also, there are drawings available:

12x18 one sheet, from Scale Plans SP1662 at 1/48 designer is Spring.

Source: Model Warplanes 1996, Volume 4, World War Two, 1939-1945: Allied.

A start!

Charles

Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Fred Cronenwett on October 23, 2012, 08:00:34 PM
The Miles Aircraft are challenging, There were only three M-20's built per the book "wings over Woodley" by Julian C Temple. The book in question had only a few black and white photos, nothing with the U9 on the side of the fuselage. That time frame of 1941 is difficult to find any color photos.

the three built was a mock up, then a private venture Prototype and then one for the Royal Navy. I can't even find any information on www.airliners.net or even a google image search.

You might be able to use one black and white photo and then use color chips if you can prove what british colors they would have used for the camo and then present that information for scale documentation.

Good luck with that project, if you can find a color 3-view that would be great.

Miles had some great looking aircraft that were unique.....awesome stuff.

Fred Cronenwett
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: qaz049 on October 24, 2012, 04:18:53 AM
This won't help you with your color photos but:

There is a kit available, or there once was.

26" in span, for CL, from NEXUS, MA102 may be the kit number and the designer is Spring.

Also, there are drawings available:

12x18 one sheet, from Scale Plans SP1662 at 1/48 designer is Spring.

Source: Model Warplanes 1996, Volume 4, World War Two, 1939-1945: Allied.

A start!

Charles



MA indicates a "Model Aircraft" magazine plan not a kit. Nexus is the UK copyright holder. There was an Aeromodeller plan of the Miles, a small stunter for 2.5cc engines.

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28974.0;attach=113734;image)

Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Allen Brickhaus on October 24, 2012, 05:49:54 AM
Thank you gentlemen.


Allen
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: PerttiMe on October 24, 2012, 09:40:04 AM
Sorry, no color photos. There don't seem to be many photos of the prototype marked U9. The best I could find are in this Russian forum thread:
http://p-d-m.livejournal.com/123705.html

Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fp-d-m.livejournal.com%2F123705.html

Apparently the stab of "U9"was moved back after the test pilot had a hairy moment trying to recover from a spin. After the modification the aircraft got military serial AX834.
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on October 24, 2012, 10:49:40 AM
I think Archie Adamissin built one of these and used it at the team trials or something like that in the 70's.  Don't know if it was ever published.
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: rustler on October 24, 2012, 02:20:24 PM
Miles had some great looking aircraft that were unique.....awesome stuff. Fred Cronenwett

The M52 comes to mind. Just read the new book by Eric Brown. Awsome stuff, the usual political disaster.
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Dan McEntee on October 24, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
   Nice airplane. Looks sorta "Typhoonish." What isi the date on the Aeromodeler article?
   Thanks a lot,
    Dan McEntee
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: John Sunderland on October 24, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
With those looks it seems it could have been the inspration for the Neptune stunt ship. ;D
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Dan McEntee on October 24, 2012, 08:57:49 PM


   "With those looks it seems it could have been the inspration for the Neptune stunt ship."

    Yeah, that one also. Isn't it funny how almost all airplanes tend to look like another one??

  Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: I am in need of color photos of the Miles M-20 with the U9 on the fuse sides?
Post by: Trostle on October 25, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
   Nice airplane. Looks sorta "Typhoonish." What isi the date on the Aeromodeler article?
   Thanks a lot,
    Dan McEntee

I would like to amplify the information introduced above by Ray Fairall.

Aeromodeller published a sport aerobatic version of the Miles M-20, 33 inch span by Noel Stephenson in the July 94 issue, page 57.

Model Aircraft published a scale version of the Miles M-20, 25 inch span by W.H. Smith in the May 51 issue .

Aeromodeller included a full size plans insert of the Miles M-20, 28 inch span, in their October 88 issue with a plan number of MAG 30.  This was also by Noel Stephenson.

Fred Spring in Australia did a large series of superb scale drawings on many British fighters.  Many of his drawings used factory drawings as reference.  If any drawing on the Miles M-20 that he had listed (late 90's) is available, it would probably be the most definitive drawing on that aircraft.  (I have his drawings on several Spitfire Marks, the Sea Fury, Hornet/Sea Hornet, and the Martin Baker MB 5.  Unfortunately, the Miles M-20 has not been on my list of airplanes to collect information on so I do not have the Spring drawing.)

Keith