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Title: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 04, 2006, 01:31:24 PM

The twin is a L.A. Heaat. The nacelles are 17 1/2 inches apart. The wing is a regular ole D-Tube.

Sould I fiberglass the center sheeting on the wing? The center sheeting spans all the way from one nacelle to the other.
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: RandySmith on April 04, 2006, 03:09:07 PM
Hi Frank

I would suggest  that you do, Also  I would  NOT use 2 40s,  use  2  36s  instead

REgards

Randy
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 04, 2006, 05:57:06 PM


It's too late. The .40s are there.

Dave Keats came out last Sunday with a twin Mustang profile that sported two .25s he had a pretty concerned look on his face once it got airborne.

Will .5 0z. cloth do the trick?
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: Leester on April 04, 2006, 06:13:50 PM
Hey Frank:  How about some pictures. I for one would like to see how she looks now.
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: Russell Shaffer on April 04, 2006, 06:47:43 PM
I hope you weigh 250 or better to hang on to that.  What size lines do you plan on?
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 04, 2006, 08:07:58 PM

Leester,
My computer crashed and I lost the pictures. I think in a few weeks I'll have it ready to cover then I'll post the pictures. The twin is stalled out right now and I am trying to finish my new stunter. A few more touch ups and the letters and I'll have it ready for clear. I hope a picture of that will be O.K. for now.

Russ,
I don't weigh 250 pounds but I can handle the plane. I'm going to check with Windy on the lines. But I think he'll say .018 x 70.
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: RandySmith on April 04, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
Hi Frank

The .5 glass cloth will work very well for you
About the lines, you will  need  .021s   for the  2  40s
.018s  if you  used  2- 36s

Please do post  pictures

Regards
Randy
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 05, 2006, 03:14:45 AM

It's 5 a.m. in Detroit . I just cleared my work bench and took some pics of the L.A. Heat. I could have had the model finished by now but i'm easily distracted. I've been fooling around for two months with the electric Smoothie. First building it
. Then flying it. Then putting the construction and flying videos together.
   I'm running in a Big Art Brodak .40 to put on my Pathfinder ( I sold the .40 that was on it). And I'm finishing up the Legacy pictured earlier on this thread.
These are all good excuses but ...........................................
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 05, 2006, 03:20:05 AM

It's a large plane. I'm playing with mufflers right now as I break in a new Brodak .40. I'm hoping to get a cool sound out of the twins.

The L.A. Heat should only produce about 12 to 15 pounds of pull.
 with the two .40s. And now that I'm looking at it again I feel moved to get it done. It will probably be scary to fly it at first but I just know it will be a blast.
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: frank carlisle on April 05, 2006, 03:24:39 AM

Please feel free to make comments or give advise on this model.

I plan to use epoxy to stick the glass cloth on the wing center section. I read somewhere that acetone or alcohol would be a good thinner for the epoxy. Can someone tell me about this?
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: Leroy Heikes on April 05, 2006, 05:13:23 AM
Alcohol will work, but I would look for a finishing epoxy that has a two hour drying time. It is already thin. Or use the west system epoxy it is real nice to work with. I have a full size boat I built using it.

Leroy
Title: Re: I'm building a .40 size twin do I need to
Post by: Bill Little on April 05, 2006, 07:19:45 AM
It's a large plane. I'm playing with mufflers right now as I break in a new Brodak .40. I'm hoping to get a cool sound out of the twins.

The L.A. Heat should only produce about 12 to 15 pounds of pull.
 with the two .40s. And now that I'm looking at it again I feel moved to get it done. It will probably be scary to fly it at first but I just know it will be a blast.

HI Frank,
Get some Z-Poxy to apply the .5 oz (5/10ths) FG.  Z-Poxy is thin enough and works better than anything I have used.  You *can* thin other epoxies with acetone (I prefer lac. thinner) but I get concerned about the strength when I do it for anything other than fuel proofing an engine compartment.

Randy had a true point about the lines.  (2) 40s will require .021 per AMA rules.  Windy has always been careful to stay under the limit (.77??) so that he can use .018s.  He used "custom made" Ro-Jetts (under 40 sizes) in all his twins.  Heck, (2) Magnum 36s (stock, cheap) would pull that thing through a Hurricane!
You still have time to make a change.  ;D