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Title: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: howard shenton on March 25, 2016, 08:10:01 AM
WAYMER FLYING FIELD
15401 Holbrooks Rd.
Huntersville, NC 28078


Contest Director:    Everett Shoemaker:   252-633-4128   evjoshoe@embarqmail.com
Stunt Event Director:    Will Davis:       704-860-1079    willddavis@msn.com
Combat Event Director:   Howard Shenton:    864-963-3504    panzer4hs2001@yahoo.com
Carrier Event Director:     David Smith:       704-340-3176    smitty8126@gmail.com

All AMA and PAMPA rules apply except no appearance points and no builder of model rule.

CAROLINA CLASSIC
Entry Fee:  $10.00 per event, $30.00 max. Juniors & Seniors $5.00 per event, $15.00 Max.

Thursday & Friday: April 28th 29th.
Note:  all C/L circles will be open for practice Thursday  Friday field closed for RC and available for Practice.
Need key or MCLS member present to get on site.

Friday - 1/2A COMBAT at to 4:00 (+/- Approx.) on Friday. Elimination.

Saturday - Apr30th:
STUNT - Pilot’s meeting at 9:30 AM.
Old Time Stunt, Profile Stunt, Nostalgia 30 Stunt, Basic Flight (to be flown at 12:00 noon).
COMBAT - Pilot’s meeting at 9:030 AM.
Speed Limit Combat (75mph). Any plane, Engine. Fuel system or Fuel. Starters OK. Mid-air does not end match.
         Rounds with Bonus for match win.
CARRIER
NOTE:  We plan to be ready to fly carrier well before the stunt pilots meeting – hopefully by 8:00 AM. 
We will also register carrier models Friday afternoon if you are in the area.
- Fifteen Carrier: Glow and Electric will be combined as allways
- Profile Carrier: Glow and Electric will be combined. 
- Carrier I and II: Glow and Electric will all be combined. 
- Nostalgia, Profile, I and II all classes will all be combined. 
All scores will be normalized as a percentage of the high score on the NCS 2014 Top 20 so no class or propulsion method should have an advantage. 
Contestants may enter as many classes as they want for NCS Top 20 consideration etc. 

Sunday - May 1:
STUNT
Pilot’s meeting at 9:00 AM.
PAMPA: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and Expert.
COMBAT
(TBD only if unable to finish on Saturday and people still feel like flying).
CARRIER
(TBD only if unable to finish on Saturday and people still feel like flying).
 
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Howard Rush on March 25, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
Maybe you should bump up entry fee so you can afford to award appearance points.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Motorman on March 25, 2016, 01:56:03 PM
No Perky?


MM
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Curt D Contrata on March 26, 2016, 06:30:17 AM
"NC Carolina Classic", but you are not flying "Classic"?

And, if I finish my plane in time, if no key or member will be ther on practice days how do we get in?

Curt
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Don Jenkins on March 26, 2016, 06:48:31 AM
"NC Carolina Classic", but you are not flying "Classic"?

And, if I finish my plane in time, if no key or member will be ther on practice days how do we get in?

Curt

I believe classic and N 30 are combined, and I along with other club members will be there Friday for set up and practice.  Shoot me an e-mail if you plan on getting there before 0930 on Friday and I'll make sure the gate is open.

Don Jenkins
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on March 26, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
N 30 has a rolling cutoff date of 30 years , so any model designed  / flown before April 30 1986 is n 30 legal.

The Name Carolina Classic is the traditional name for our spring contest, Caraolina Criterium is the fall contest .

If anyone gets to the field and cannot get in, call  the c/d or any of the event directors, we have a plan to get you immediate access to the field daylight to dark .

Profile event on Saturday will be flown on the  lower asphalt circle  as we did in October 2015 , n /30 will be on asphalt and OTS  will be on  the normal well groomed grass circle ,

Looking forward to seeing everyone ,
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Jim Carter on March 28, 2016, 12:55:22 PM
 :)  Hi!  I know this may seem silly to you but I truly don't know.  In the PAMPA Nostalgia 30 class, is there a special order or maneuvers required for the various classes of flight i.e. Basic, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and Expert??  If so, where can I find a listing so I can practice?  I scratchbuilt a model that meets the 30 year requirement but at the moment I'm struggling to competently execute (without causing the spectators and judges run for cover) the Beginner and Intermediate maneuvers shown on the PAMPA website.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on March 28, 2016, 06:38:15 PM
:)  Hi!  I know this may seem silly to you but I truly don't know. 

Jim,

No question asked is silly, just the ones not asked .

At most local contest in the southeast, there are no skill classes in n/ 30 , classic , profile or OTS . Just not enough competitors to split into the different skill levels . So everyone flys the AMA Full  pattern , which is the same for int,advanced and expert ,

In stunt , The only ama abreviated  pattern is beginner.  Basic flight is the brainchild of Watt Moore, it was designed to give someone with basic flight skills a entry level event, the basic flight diagram is in the Brodak catalog, but is not a official ama event ,

 At a local contest , It is  acceptable to omit maneuvers in any stunt event, if you  or your model are not comfortable with the maneuver, it is best to let the judges know in advance.  You will score lower than full pattern flight, but the objective is to have fun...

I have seen people enter events  that they could not do entire pattern on Saturday to just get the  first flight  anxiety out of their system , then enter beginner on Sunday .

On the east coast, the only contest I am aware of that has skill classes in  all different stunt events is Brodak fly in , we have skill classes in each day's event,
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: mike londke on March 29, 2016, 08:19:50 AM
I really love this contest and up until the other day it was a sure thing that Sam and I were going. I had a heart attack 5 days ago and just got released from the hospital. I gotta get well and convince the wife I'm strong enough to go. I will be bummed if I have to miss it. Fingers crossed.  Mike
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Jim Carter on March 29, 2016, 09:27:46 AM
:)  Hi!  I know this may seem silly to you but I truly don't know. 

Jim,

No question asked is silly, just the ones not asked .

At most local contest in the southeast, there are no skill classes in n/ 30 , classic , profile or OTS . Just not enough competitors to split into the different skill levels . So everyone flys the AMA Full  pattern , which is the same for int,advanced and expert ,

In stunt , The only ama abreviated  pattern is beginner.  Basic flight is the brainchild of Watt Moore, it was designed to give someone with basic flight skills a entry level event, the basic flight diagram is in the Brodak catalog, but is not a official ama event ,

 At a local contest , It is  acceptable to omit maneuvers in any stunt event, if you  or your model are not comfortable with the maneuver, it is best to let the judges know in advance.  You will score lower than full pattern flight, but the objective is to have fun...

I have seen people enter events  that they could not do entire pattern on Saturday to just get the  first flight  anxiety out of their system , then enter beginner on Sunday .

On the east coast, the only contest I am aware of that has skill classes in  all different stunt events is Brodak fly in , we have skill classes in each day's event,
Thanks!  I'm hoping the wife and I can come up  ;D.  If we can, I promise to do everything I can to keep the judges from falling out laughing when I take to the sky  ;D LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: john e. holliday on March 29, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
I really love this contest and up until the other day it was a sure thing that Sam and I were going. I had a heart attack 5 days ago and just got released from the hospital. I gotta get well and convince the wife I'm strong enough to go. I will be bummed if I have to miss it. Fingers crossed.  Mike

Mike, thought you were in better shape than that.   Anyway glad you are still with us.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on March 29, 2016, 01:37:14 PM
I really love this contest and up until the other day it was a sure thing that Sam and I were going. I had a heart attack 5 days ago and just got released from the hospital. I gotta get well and convince the wife I'm strong enough to go. I will be bummed if I have to miss it. Fingers crossed.  Mike

Mike ,

Hate to hear of the health issue, people of all ages and fitness can and do have heart attacks.  if it is a mild attack, it is sometimes a good thing , to help us get treatment   And get on the path to a long and healthy life .

Hope you can make it, but if not we will be thinking about you and Sam .

Especially at the pool party,



Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: RknRusty on March 29, 2016, 02:53:00 PM
I really love this contest and up until the other day it was a sure thing that Sam and I were going. I had a heart attack 5 days ago and just got released from the hospital. I gotta get well and convince the wife I'm strong enough to go. I will be bummed if I have to miss it. Fingers crossed.  Mike
Aw mike, I'm sorry to hear that. Do whatever the Docs say, but maybe your wife will come and be your contest nurse.

Wayne isn't coming either, so it was just going to be you and me in Int., as far as I know. Please take care of yourself, whatever it means. Tell them the event is absolutely necessary for your mental health.
Rusty
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 30, 2016, 05:38:23 PM
Yikes!  I hope you recover soon Mike!
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: mike londke on March 30, 2016, 05:51:35 PM
Thanks Guys, Believe me I am doing everything the Dr. says. It really scared the hell out of me. I really just need to stop treating my body like a trash can. I was putting garbage in it all the time. I know now I am too old to handle bad food all the time.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Dane Martin on March 30, 2016, 11:31:32 PM
God bless you Mike! That's a scary thought, i can't imagine how you felt. Keep healthy, especially for the family.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: howard shenton on April 05, 2016, 01:15:55 PM
Will be at the field, with key, Thursday no later than 1:00PM
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: john ohnimus on April 29, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
Moving this back to the top!! Anyone know what time the gates will open on Saturday for practice?
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on April 29, 2016, 08:25:21 PM
John,

We will be at the field around  7 am , or sooner , if anyone gets there before then, call me at 704 860 1079 , I can get you access immediately .

Saturday stunt events, Pilots meeting at 9:45. First officials at 10 am    Sharp

Good turnout today at the field , parking lot was close to capacity ,  a lot of  first timers around the field and many of the regulars,  perfect weather for a practice day, OTS, n30 , carrier, profile , basic  flight and combat tomorrow, busy day,

1/2 a combat got going mid afternoon, do not know results, but a lot of flying from that end of flying site,

After all this fun we were off to eat at the local restaurants, Italian, fish camps , pizza , the huntersville exit  23 on I 77 has grown to include many restaurants , strip malls , garden centers, kidventure discovery place , nascar race shops (joe Gibbs racing is close for Kyle bush fans ) , and hotels, not the quaint small vacant  town we had 10 years ago.

Rumors :
Watt Moore was trying to break his gizzard eating world record this weekend ,
Alan Buck has a new secret weapon with Derek Barry Pedigree,
john Rakes is gone to four strokes, a little slow to change , but four strokes it is
Dave Courtney is back,
Brian Malin will flying ugly Betty on Sunday,
Charlie reeves has his big job ready for OTS , fox 59 forever
Brian Moore and Ed Ruane. Have a couple nice Bearcats
Tom Dixon is lflying better than ever
Bob zambelli will do good with the Icarus jr,
A la 46 will place in profile



For the electric flyers , huntersville flying site now has a permanent 12 volt power source with  ten separate charging stations , the storage battery system is solar powered and works great, no more carrying car batteries to the shelter.



Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: john ohnimus on April 29, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
Thanks Will!!!!
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on April 30, 2016, 05:13:21 PM
Today's stunt results, perfect day for stunt, no rain , perfect wind, no sun, overcast... Mild one direction 6 mph wind
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on April 30, 2016, 05:14:26 PM
Basic flight  judges watt Moore, Brian Malin.  Parents / grandparents.  James duckworth and mike londke.  With Sam  londke and Kyle Anderson
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on April 30, 2016, 05:23:14 PM
What airplanes and engines were flown in OTS and Nostalgia?????????????
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on April 30, 2016, 05:28:43 PM
Bob zambelli. Icarus jr , ame or are period / plans correct rare engine
Charlie reeves big job fox 59
Terry McDowell   Viking ? Super tiger ? Maybe
Artie Jesup  pdq clown fox
Brian moore yo you fox 35.  Past Brodak spirit 52 plane
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on May 01, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
Sunday
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on May 01, 2016, 05:19:21 PM
Beginner
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: Will Davis on May 01, 2016, 05:52:16 PM
Sunday rain and thunder stopped in time for pilots meeting , light turnout on Sunday due to very rough weather, we were blessed with another great spring day in Carolina.

Thank you  to all the runners , tabulated, judged and to the contestants and venders that support our events .

congratulations to all of the winners in their events.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: John Tate on May 01, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
This is what the field looked like at 8:30 this morning. Then before you knew it, the sun came out.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: John Tate on May 01, 2016, 07:41:12 PM
Here is David Smith flying is electric powered Vector 40 on the inverted laps.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: RknRusty on May 02, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Although I've been in the same company of pilots at Huntersville with Charlie several times, somehow I'd never met him until Saturday when I was admiring the flight line on the upper circle. I met him and his daughter Charra, and they're both interesting and fun, easy to talk to. I had to ask about his Shark. It was one of the seriously nice planes that I couldn't pass up, and I've only admired them from afar in pictures.

Here are some pictures of one of his flights Saturday afternoon. I'm currently editing a video that will include this flight too.
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/rknrusty/Airplanes/Huntersville%20Contest/Huntersville%20May%202016/Charley%20Reeves%20Shark%20launch_zps7d9hzebn.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/rknrusty/Airplanes/Huntersville%20Contest/Huntersville%20May%202016/Charlie%20Reeves%20Shark%20level1_zpsycpxi8f5.jpg)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/rknrusty/Airplanes/Huntersville%20Contest/Huntersville%20May%202016/Charley%20Reeves%20Shark%20Inverted_zps79gwiqvc.jpg)
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: john e. holliday on May 04, 2016, 10:09:44 AM
Yes Charlie is one of the great gentleman of our hobby/sport.
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: RknRusty on May 04, 2016, 11:09:10 AM
Here's an amateur little movie/slideshow I pieced together. I was too preoccupied to bother with the camera much. Gene Martine probably has hundreds of them, I hope he'll show us what he's got.

https://youtu.be/c5oV9GRHpE4
Title: Re: Huntersville, NC CAROLINA CLASSIC, Apr 28, 29, 30 & May 1st 2016
Post by: RknRusty on May 05, 2016, 10:03:18 AM
Just re-watching that video in full screen and realized he did a loop at 5:45. Cool! That was a deal sealer.