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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Mike Griffin on January 25, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
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When I look at this I feel like a pauper in the hobby. How much money do some of these people have to dump into a hobby.. just amazes me....
http://www.youtube.com/embed/HH0q4OYYHl8?feature=player_detailpage
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Mike,
I think what you are seeing here, is probably a collaboration.
It's here and there, pops up every now and again. Possibly a bit more prevalent in other Countries.
You know, friends, guys that get along, work on a project as a team effort, each one offering something, all pitching in to get it done.
A wonderful human experience in modeling.
Ten guys, 500.00 to 1000.00 each, if that. You'd be surprised what friendship in modeling can accomplish.
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Way cool... ;D
Marcus
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I am not a bit suprised as many people have unlimited money for hobbys. A guy not to far from me has at least 50 old muscle cars. Most are mint. Some RC flyers travel to 40 contest a year and spend thousands on each trip. One guy at our field drives a AC 427 Cobra and flies 5,000 RC models.
Ed
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When I look at this I feel like a pauper in the hobby. How much money do some of these people have to dump into a hobby.. just amazes me....
http://www.youtube.com/embed/HH0q4OYYHl8?feature=player_detailpage
Wanna see some money you should see the motor yachts that show up for our clubs IMAA fun fly, some are worth more than my house...lol
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I am not a bit suprised as many people have unlimited money for hobbys. A guy not to far from me has at least 50 old muscle cars. Most are mint. Some RC flyers travel to 40 contest a year and spend thousands on each trip. One guy at our field drives a AC 427 Cobra and flies 5,000 RC models.
Ed
The AC Cobra Ed mentioned is the real deal, unmolested , all original early production Cobra ..I could no believe it when I first saw it, thought it was a older kit car, very rare to see cars like this driven to the flying field
If you want to see a some extreme toy haulers, come to Joe Nall, big motor ones, NASCAR style haulers packed full of models of all price ranges, from 1/2 scale rc turbine powered cub on floats , to bind and fly park flyers, and three circles full of control line planes . models range from NATS contenders to basic trainers
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I loved the cockpit shots, too bad the windscreen was so optically poor, it would have been amazingly real. Not that the airplane isn't, just that the cockpit shot detracts from it.
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I wonder how much was spent on the B-52 with 8 jet engines? :o It made plenty of smoke when it crashed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WZ6PgsBhM
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That B-52 with eight turbines are REALLY impressive. According to the video they had (lost) 20,000 pounds on the project. It looked to me like (in the absence of an airspeed indicator) they let it get too slow an downwind and stalled out.
The Airbus with four prop-drive electric motors is puny by comparison. Of course it flys better. Prop drive is simple compared to true jet.
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Well, I think it is a very cool project. Made even better by the likelihood that the guys collaborated on the project! What a great team!
Yes it does look like they invested some $$$ on that ship. But we each have our own comfort zone for that.
-Chris
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Never mind the money, who has time for a project like that?
Jim
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there is this mistaken relationship that more money means more fun. It isn't true. A nice challenge to be sure. but. not necessarily more fun.
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If a person is finacially able to indulge to this extent in ANY hobby and it brings them joy, I see nothing wrong with it at all. You only go around once here on planet Earth and Lord knows life is tough and all the fun you can have is a precious commodity.
Mike
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Control line is certainly one of the most affordable parts of the hobby. About the only thing cheaper in the hobby might be free flight rubber. Like many others I've been in most of the venues of the hobby except turbine power models. Prices are more than reasonable for kits and engines. As to engines where else would you find people still debating the virtues of a Fox or McCoy 35 like it was the summation of high zoot engineering?
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I was at a Roadster show here in NorCal recently. There were row after row after row of $250,000 motor homes pulling NASCAR type trailers, from all over the country. We see a toned-down version at some big RC events, but still pretty impressive. The answer is almost always "business owners." They have the money, the time, and the freedom to pursue these kinds of things. Nobody living on Social Security or a minimal pension from whatever job they had. We are really at the bottom end of the expense scale in CLPA where we can toss the model in the back seat of the car and all the supplies in the trunk and head off to a contest.
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Control line is certainly one of the most affordable parts of the hobby. About the only thing cheaper in the hobby might be free flight rubber. Like many others I've been in most of the venues of the hobby except turbine power models. Prices are more than reasonable for kits and engines. As to engines where else would you find people still debating the virtues of a Fox or McCoy 35 like it was the summation of high zoot engineering?
I used to fly indoor rubber in the winter, great fun and dirt cheap, after you buy the rubber, props and tissue the planes were almost free, just cut 1/16th sticks from scrap. I had a No-Cal that would do 1 minute every time. y1
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These guys don't mind spending a few bucks for "sleds" and the transporters to haul & fix 'em.
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If I had his money, I'd do things my way.
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But it's so hard to find one RC'er in ten with a satisfied mind.
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Most of those "business owners" have some sort of a tax angle going on that makes their hobby much more affordable.
I wouldn't say "rubber powered FF" is cheap. Contest rubber is $24/lb., and that's if you buy 10 lbs at a whack. Each motor is generally good for one flight if you are serious. If it survives, you won't get max power out of it on the next flight, or it will break, but you can use it for practise, if you ever get to do that. I bought 10 lbs of Champion Rubber and 10 lbs of FAI Supply (Ed Dolby vintage) and none was worth flying. I guess it's a lot more consistent now, tho. But you'd be lucky to get a dozen motors out of each pound, I'd expect...$2 each.
HLG (Hand Launched Glider or "Hurl Glider") was the ultimate cheap hobby, but now, to compete, you are looking at a lot of CF, Discus Launch and both DT and Transponder Beacon technology...not cheap. And of course, going to a contest costs just as much as going to fly any other (more expensive) events.
Going to a contest in your Honda Civic or equivalent isn't real cheap these days. Our contest 'circuit' ranges from 3 hours N. of Seattle to 3+ hours South of Seattle. Most of a tank of gas for most vehicles, each direction. Best to keep your expenditures as low as possible, and not to even think about it. Otherwise, you won't go, and will miss out on some good times. And there are others off the beaten path that are farther away...Mark, Pat, Bruce, Bryan, JT and Russell fall into that catagory. H^^ Steve
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Steve, I guarantee you that you can fill your house to the rafters with rubber on the cost of one really good turbine powered model. a good helicopter will set you back a few $K. Never mind a good pattern ship. RC might be considered the dark side but if that's so then in control line I want someone to show me the money. besides a slow roll done intentionally on a C/L model would really look kind of cool, don't you think? LOL
No hobby is free and it is supposed to be a place where you spend a little of your surplus cash on something you enjoy. Some people have more surplus cash. That's just the way it is.
Dennis
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HLG is only cheap if you don't take the rotator cuff surgery into account. I now am a catapult glider flyer only.
I do fly FIG and P30 rubber and yikes, what has happened to price and availability! Nostalgia towline A-1 is pretty cheap, unless the knee surgery is taken into account.
CL sounds better all the time. Gotta admit though the RC scale and especially turbine stuff is pretty darned impressive.