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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on September 02, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
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Ok for those of us with limited space and hang our planes in some fashion. I know some have the room for storage racks and some never get stored more than a day.
I had a issue yesterday that frustrated me a little.
Took my Nobler off the wall to get in some end of the summer flights. What a way to end a long lazy weekend I thought.
My Nobler has been flip and fly all summer. Last flights were at WKSI.
Got to the field set up my stooge ran out lines and flipped the prop. Most of the time I never had to touch the needle. It spooled up to 11k rpm. Backed the needle a number of turns and right down to 4k. One click and back to 11k. Worked on it a little at the field but the late afternoon sun was cooking me. Loaded up and on the drive home I scratched my head. What changed? Then I remember that when I got back from WKSI I hung the plane nose down to maybe let any fuel in the cowl area to drip out. My guess is any fuel left in the fuel lines ran into the NVA and settled. Well I did not find much in the NVA but did find a bugar in the filter.
We will see this afternoon if I got it.
Note to self: don't hang planes nose down. 😳
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Nose down is my favorite method. I have never had much trouble that way, yet I have had some form of trouble in any method and for the sake of space, I have used about any and all methods. %^@
Using a filter is -- IMO -- a sure need for a clean-out if you have any more than a couple weeks. OTOH maybe that is what caused my same problem about a month or so ago. Old Ringmaster, Fox 35, had hung nose-down for months. Took it in back yard and after about 10 laps, it went bonkers. Then after a few seconds it started fine, maybe 5-10 seconds it quit. Tried same with same results after a number of "Quick Fixes". Back to the barn and have not tried it out yet. That Fox is at least 40 years old and RM is some 20 years old.
My Fox 19, very old, model an old all wood wing fuse, etc. is about 29 years old. Made a few flights trying to give a nephew some time. He was doing very well until I let him solo. Bad landing but that engine was performing extremely well. Same fuel as the 35 was burning, or trying to burn. My Fox fuel is "adjusted" from my RC to less nitro and MORE oil, castor. Been very busy and many chores like climbing and taking off limbs from these darn sweet-gum trees around the place.
Hope you, MR. Paul, are having much better luck. y1
BTW Guys, don't forget about Ol' Hoss when the ballots for AMA office come out. I may be a RCer but there are a number of nice CL models on the work bench.
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I noticed early on that stunt ships have these convenient cables sticking out of the left wing that are easy to attach to a hook hanging from a beam.
So, that's what I do.
No problems so far.
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like this
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ProETNova/storingplanes.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/ProETNova/media/storingplanes.jpg.html)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ProETNova/storingplanes2.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/ProETNova/media/storingplanes2.jpg.html)
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Just flush out the system with methanol.
MM
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Leadouts, tail, nose.
Are there no outboard hangers out there?
How about rods under the wings to store planes in normal ground attitude?
Or inverted?
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By the neck until dead! LL~ LL~ LL~ S?P
Bob Hunt
Now that's funny! LL~
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like this
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ProETNova/storingplanes.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/ProETNova/media/storingplanes.jpg.html)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ProETNova/storingplanes2.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/ProETNova/media/storingplanes2.jpg.html)
Wow I counted over 21 planes!
Wish I had room to store the that way. Seems like that is how the fly. Pulling on the prop.
If I had that many planes my wife would hang me! LL~
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haha yea that is "most" of our control line squadron, My Strega was on the bench at the time of the picture that's why there is a gap in the one row and a couple others are MIA at time of picture. But there are several stacked up behind whats hanging plus others around the house. Then My R/C squadron is all over the place, My house, My grandma's house, my G/F's house haha.
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I reckon I have around 30 planes...the best thing is to suction the tank, remove the fuel line from the NV and blow any fuel out. I hang some by the tail, some by leadouts and some from the ceiling with slings. I try not to forget a few drops of oil. H^^
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This model looks interesting. Reminds me of a model that was featured many moons ago.
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That is my dad's "Which-a-Way" it was featured as a 1/2A I believe, but he's like thats cool but would be cooler if it was a 40 size, so he made one. He calls it "Wild Fire" Actually flys pretty well and always gets interesting looks.
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I try to hang mine very carefully. Doesn't always work out but I try. Rafters are a good thing and I keep them at the opposite end of the basement from the fire place just in case.
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Am I the only one thinking that hanging the models by the propeller (Jared's) will tend to twist the prop blades over time and probably be a bad thing, regardless of prop material?
I would be ok with hanging them by the prop with a cord loop or wire hooks right at the spinner/blade root. Most mine are hanging by the leadouts. The Eagle is sitting horizontal (inverted) on the bench, waiting for some repairs to be done. This week, for sure. H^^ Steve
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Am I the only one thinking that hanging the models by the propeller (Jared's) will tend to twist the prop blades over time and probably be a bad thing, regardless of prop material?
Yup, seems like the only one!
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Am I the only one thinking I need a bigger shop?
Man you guys with a full basement have a great space. I'm envious. 😐
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I remember a discussion like this years ago. Everybody had their own ideas and most worked. To try to keep the airplane straight for a long time stored is the goal. I think Jared has the best idea-from the motor mounts more or less. Gravity should do less evil on the airplane this way. I've hung a few by the lead outs in a storage locker and got warped fuselages as the weight of engine and tail stressed the fuselage. Ruined my original Shameless that way. I have best luck hanging them by the tail. Specifically my stooge launch cable which I mount solidly to the tail wheel mount. The planes stay straight. Sure get plenty of used oil pouring back down the pipe into the engines though... Have to burp them anyway. The oil might serve the aftertrun oil job pretty well. Paul maybe that filter was due to flush anyway. I try to clean mine every flying session or 10 flights or so. Doesn't take long to collect a good wad of crap from the fuel, especially near the bottom of the jug. I've been getting strange runs on the last couple tanks from gallon jugs. I'm saving the last pint or so for bench running and cracking a new gallon.
Dave
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I remember a discussion like this years ago. Everybody had their own ideas and most worked. To try to keep the airplane straight for a long time stored is the goal. I think Jared has the best idea-from the motor mounts more or less. Gravity should do less evil on the airplane this way. I've hung a few by the lead outs in a storage locker and got warped fuselages as the weight of engine and tail stressed the fuselage. Ruined my original Shameless that way. I have best luck hanging them by the tail. Specifically my stooge launch cable which I mount solidly to the tail wheel mount. The planes stay straight. Sure get plenty of used oil pouring back down the pipe into the engines though... Have to burp them anyway. The oil might serve the aftertrun oil job pretty well. Paul maybe that filter was due to flush anyway. I try to clean mine every flying session or 10 flights or so. Doesn't take long to collect a good wad of crap from the fuel, especially near the bottom of the jug. I've been getting strange runs on the last couple tanks from gallon jugs. I'm saving the last pint or so for bench running and cracking a new gallon.
Dave
Yea Dave, some of our planes are older than I am 30+ years and they have been stored this way forever. No damage has ever happened as long as you don't bump them while you are digging for Christmas ornaments under them in the corner (mom)....hmm hmm anyway, motors can get a little stiff sitting around for years not being ran but a little oil does the trick if you know your not gonna be flying a plane for a while. But we basically run a couple of primes at the field through the venturi to warm the motor up on a plane that has been sitting a while then fuel and fly, good to go.
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I hang mine by the leadouts, tail wheel, or hooks under the leading edge of the stab. Maybe that is why they fly so lousy and it isn't me. LL~ LL~ But how do you keep from warping the props???
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If I could hang mine that way from the joists I'd remove the props and make some hangers to bolt to the engine shaft.
Dave
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I hang mine by the leadouts, tail wheel, or hooks under the leading edge of the stab. Maybe that is why they fly so lousy and it isn't me. LL~ LL~ But how do you keep from warping the props???
Have yet to ever warp a prop...most of our props are wood though on our bigger planes...a lot of our 35 size planes have plastic props but they have done fine as well...
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Some hang from sling straps attached to the ceiling with eye hooks so you can unhook one end. Others (1/2A ) sit on shelfs, and then I have a PVC rack that holds another 1/2 dozen and hangs from the ceiling.
Oh yeah, my wife made me a closest storage in the shared hobby / craft room we got to set up once the nest started emptying out and kids grew up....