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Title: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 29, 2006, 06:19:14 PM: Someone said this in another post...

John D used to build them at about 60 ounces or so....powered by a Fox .35....
He also used to do terrific 55' wingovers on 70' lines....

What does this mean? The plane came in on overheads?
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wing over on 70' lines
Post by: RC Storick on April 29, 2006, 06:22:41 PM: Quote from: RootBeard on April 29, 2006, 06:19:14 PM
Someone said this in another post...

John D used to build them at about 60 ounces or so....powered by a Fox .35....
He also used to do terrific 55' wing overs on 70' lines....

What does this mean? The plane came in on overheads?

It means he was doing the LIMBO trying to get line tension. LOL
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wing over on 70' lines
Post by: Harleyman on April 29, 2006, 06:25:13 PM: Quote from: Robert Storick on April 29, 2006, 06:22:41 PM
It means he was doing the LIMBO trying to get line tension. LOL

That's my guess too. Ha Ha ~^
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: peabody on April 29, 2006, 07:08:17 PM: Ty:
John D builds, well, KINDA porky.....and he flew fairly slow....His aeroplanes frequently lacked line tension during the wingover, as he used "standard vent" tanks, which ran leaner as the flight progressed, necessitating slow beginning laps/less tension.

The line sag was very noticable........
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: peabody on May 01, 2006, 05:19:27 AM: John didn't get onto his knees....he just stood there and let the plane perform....
It came back
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: Jim Pollock on May 01, 2006, 07:52:35 AM: Ty,

Of all people, I know you spent enough time in NJ to understand their thinking didn't you???

Jim Pollock Not in NJ but in the East - Just Temporarily!!
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: Charlie Pate on May 01, 2006, 07:36:48 PM: Ed Southwick said they used to do a lot of whipping in the old days.
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on May 02, 2006, 12:18:31 AM: John D and I flew almost every day at the old Rich's Hobby Towne and/or the GSCB field. John was and still is amazing. He had a period when he was almost unbeatable.

The old Fox .35 days were interesting.. we just accepted the fact that the lines might slacken going over the top of the wing over. We never went to our knees.. it would always come back out as you got to the pullout altitude. We used to just laugh about it.
Title: Re: How do you do 55' wingover on 70' lines
Post by: Chris McMillin on May 02, 2006, 12:40:04 PM: This sounds very familiar,

There are some pics of Bart Klapinski in MAN's Round & Round by Bill Netzeband that show Bart in some very unusual poses.

Jerry McMillin's AMA 68 was always doing a slow dance at the beginning of the flight and would fly a nice 55 foot wingover on 70's, no exaggeration! The arc in the lines would be very evident, and it would come to line tension at the other side of the circle depending on either dad's running back or possibly it would happen itself. Many times the model's huge fin would be only inches off of the ground when flying the inverted portion of the wingover.

This thread brings back nice old memories of those days when we seemed to have a quaint idea about how models flew, that we haven't seen in a long time. Models seem so much better trimmed these days! Must be all of the good communication we have about the event that has been disseminated through the years by Stunt News, magazine columns and the internet. It makes flying now a bunch more fun, I think.

Chris...