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Offline Motorman

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Hawker Hurricane
« on: November 12, 2016, 08:39:21 PM »
Has anyone ever made a full fuselage Hawker Hurricane for modern PA? The only glitch I can see is the low wing. I guess other low wing warbirds have been built, do they just fudge the wing up a bit so it's not too top heavy?


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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2016, 09:06:12 PM »
Bruno Massara in Palermo, Italy posted this on ACFC facebook page. ST 60 power


 

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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2016, 09:44:52 PM »
You have got to start digging into the old Al Rabe threads because in there all of the reasons for dihedral being the reason low wing placement is appropriate for the scale like stunters is explained, etc.
Chris...

Has anyone ever made a full fuselage Hawker Hurricane for modern PA? The only glitch I can see is the low wing. I guess other low wing warbirds have been built, do they just fudge the wing up a bit so it's not too top heavy?


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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 06:57:10 AM »
Years ago I built the little Top-Flite Hurricane.  Obviously not a serious stunt ship, but it was a lot of fun to fly (and back then I couldn't do the pattern anyway.)  I wonder if it would qualify for Classic?

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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 10:38:32 AM »
Any low wing stunter benefits from wing dihedral.  This places the leadouts closer to the center of mass, to balance upright and inverted flying.  Contrary to popular belief, wing dihedral does not cause any issues for inverted flying, or any other stunt, for that matter.

RSM Distribution is just one who offers a large Hurricane stunt kit.  Their kits feature select balsa wood and parts that actually fit together!

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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 10:59:20 AM »
Floyd,

The Hurricane is an excellent aircraft to model.

Nice photo of a Hurricane model. Is this model yours and how large would this model be?

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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2016, 02:42:19 PM »
It is.  Span 60"
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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2016, 10:37:54 PM »


This Sucker is ( was ) 57 span , OS 40 FSR-S . but it kept going lean . So thats a G 51 in it .
Id dragged it over here ( Aus. ) but only had .018s 7 THAT muffler , which wasnt a good idea.
It was ' sorted ' on 66 ft. .016 solids , and a .46 muffler , so fell from a great hight when the engine cut way up high .
Easier to hitch hike around ' folded ' though . LL~ Nailed it back together - Eventually gave it to a 5 year olds mother .

First flight had been lean & tail heavy at dusk in a 20 plus Kt steady ' breeze ' . If you held your arm straight & THOUGHT about moving you wrist
it did a loop .  If you DID move your wrist It Did a 5 Foot loop . And was up forever , getting  m o r e  Tail heavy as the 6 Oz tank emptied .

The engine eventually stopped , down wind . Got into Wind and full control reversal . But Landed itself o.k. on about the forth ' hit the controls ' .

Other Than a 3 Oz Noseweight dwematerialising in the bottom of a Square once , out at the Coast , with the G 51 in it , was no bother .
v Tight Clean squares . Unbothered by 18/20 steady wind , or crosswinds from the trees . A notch less steady inverted . As in if you were
knackered from the walk to the field , you woke up smartly as you pulled of the loops inverted , as was sensitive Not Blunt , on the Controls .

Basically designed to Std U.S. " .46 " proportions , maybe a notch smaller in the tailplane , but outer slot / balancers on the Elevators ,
That Go slotted past 1/2 movement , so gave NO ' oops , the winds got it ' moments .

Bellcrank was a 3 1/4 roberts ?? , so the reasonable pull made the handle feedback absent - You Had to WATCH it , rather than ' feel ' it .



Havnt done anything on this 63 in version lately . Stalker 66 , But Id prefer the G 51 In It , We Shall see .
Thinking Retracts will go in it , finally figured em . Would use it for my Comp ship NOW , but other priorities at this time .

Figure the Center of Lift at the M A C point Spanwise , on Wing Centerline there , so is Up a Bit .
Controls are UP at the C/S , go out flat to underside of inner wingtip .

Muffler tank etc is LOW , and Engine C.G. is NOT at the Crankshaft Line . Also with the Diheadral not alls as it seems .
C. S. flat under , more Area Under . Inverted / Outsides the inward Flow ? And Fuse acting as a FENCE steady it .
Radiator ( Scaleish Thing ) is actually a DUCT , so its seperated Airflow Wake Stabilises .
As Did Tailwheel Drag - You could discern the extra touchieness without the wake trailing aft under there , with Wheel OFF .

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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2016, 10:41:12 PM »
This things Superb , for one that hasnt been on a diet / Gone all scrawney .


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Re: Hawker Hurricane
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 07:01:39 AM »
I think it is pre-1970 so yes it should be Classic legal.
Chris...

Years ago I built the little Top-Flite Hurricane.  Obviously not a serious stunt ship, but it was a lot of fun to fly (and back then I couldn't do the pattern anyway.)  I wonder if it would qualify for Classic?


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