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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: petermick on October 11, 2012, 10:13:27 AM

Title: Hard Point Handles
Post by: petermick on October 11, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I can't find any reference.  What is/are the advantages of a Hard Point Handle versus the typical cable handle?

Thanks

Peter Mick
AMA 9581
Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: Tim Wescott on October 11, 2012, 10:19:59 AM
The cables tend to break at the point where they exit the handle, and the stiffness of the cables can make the control feel spongy, particularly when line tension is low.

The first problem can be overcome by checking your handle frequently.  The second one can't.
Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: Aaron Little on October 11, 2012, 11:10:20 AM
I personally have found that a handle such as what I have come to know it as "Ted's handle" tends to be more responsive.

They can be a touch tricky when adapting them to a new plane because of the adjusting of neutral.
In a perfect world all cables are the same length and there is no issue. In my world one cable is always longer than the other so I end up needing to use various length clips to attach the lines to the plane in order to make finite adjustments.
If you simply move the arm in or out, you are changing the turn ration (inside vs outside) etc.

Anyway, if you get a chance to try one do so and tell us what you think!
Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: dirty dan on October 11, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I can't find any reference.  What is/are the advantages of a Hard Point Handle versus the typical cable handle?

Thanks

Peter Mick
AMA 9581

Peter,

Not trying to give you a hard time, especially as you seem sincere in your request for information. But if you, or any others with similar questions, have not found copious amounts of comments and explanations as to hard-point handles and why they have become so popular you simply have not looked very hard.

Okay, a great deal of the information you seek is over on SSW, but still...

Dan
Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: john e. holliday on October 12, 2012, 08:49:11 AM
A lot of  info here if you like to search and read.  I still fly both types of handles.  Depends on which plane I am flying.

Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: Joe Yau on October 12, 2012, 10:01:23 AM
The bottom line is.. The more "direct FEEL" vs sponginess in the control.  and it's just more important if ones want to fly precise.   H^^
Title: Re: Hard Point Handles
Post by: Tim Wescott on October 12, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Not trying to give you a hard time, especially as you seem sincere in your request for information. But if you, or any others with similar questions, have not found copious amounts of comments and explanations as to hard-point handles and why they have become so popular you simply have not looked very hard.

Peter: I don't know how your Google-Fu is, but if you go to the main page for this forum (http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php (http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php)) and look in the area of the upper right, you'll see a little search box.  If you type "hard point" in the box and hit the search button, you'll get a lot of hits.  Then you can look for something relevant.  You should probably try "hardpoint", too.