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Offline James Holford

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I Love Control Line
« on: December 30, 2016, 06:30:39 PM »
Things happen for a reason I believe... I believe this si the Control Line Gods testing me........and my skills to repair..recover...and fly her again........Be gentle... Im new :)

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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 07:43:20 PM »
James, I flew mostly 3d helicopters and giant scale 3d RC planes. I even had a euroFighter 3d turbine powered aerobatic jet. I haven't flown RC in like 3 years. I've helped other people fly and played around here and there, but since I started competing in CL speed and combat, I just haven't flown RC anymore. Good call flying CL my friend!

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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 07:56:38 PM »
Yep, nothing there that you can't fix.  I have found that I have to plan ahead for maneuvers - decide what you are going to do and then fly a couple of level laps to get ready.  If I just tear up the sky, it is easy to get behind the airplane and lose control. 
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 08:29:39 PM »
I saw one big improvement vs your 1st video.   You went straight to the handle !    LOL

I think all you need to do with engine is remove spray bar and venturi, clean out intake with cotton swab making sure the crank port is closed so you don't push any dirt in further. If you already have dirt down inside crank port, remove backplate so you can flush and blow any crap out the back.  No real need to soak that engine..
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2016, 10:11:54 PM »
Speaking of dirt, it is a really good idea to put a piece of panty hose over the intake.  Just cut out a small chunk and put it over the intake and then use an O-ring to hold it on.  Keeps the grass and other stuff out of the engine. I also carry an old toothbrush in my flying box to clean out the crud.
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 10:29:18 PM »
Pulled hte venturi off...thankfully the dirt n stuff didnt get in more than half of the Venturi. Engine is safe :D
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2016, 12:41:14 AM »
Hi James,
What length of lines were you using?
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2016, 01:14:17 AM »
Pulled hte venturi off...thankfully the dirt n stuff didnt get in more than half of the Venturi. Engine is safe :D

   What was the issue there?  Indecision, or would it not turn?

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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2016, 03:10:27 AM »
James don't sweat the crash, it's part of the deal. When you went inverted you needed to push more down to maintain level flight. You were pretty cavalier about the balance of the plane. If the plane is "jumpy" it may be tail heavy or if it's sluggish may be nose heavy. It's a fine line. Once you learn inverted you can then learn the other pattern maneuvers...PhillySkip

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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2016, 05:27:13 AM »
The leadouts are rubbing on the rib holes. cut bigger holes or slot the ones in the ribs now. I prefer slots. And an adjustable leadout guide.
I may be wrong but I doubt it.
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Re: Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2016, 07:34:33 AM »
   What was the issue there?  Indecision, or would it not turn?

     Brett
For lack of a better word.. just gona say inexperience.

 At the top of the loop I went palm up and and started to slowly give it some "up" to come out the loop gradually but as it went it... I had my arm up in the air still as it was going into the loop. I'm think it may had held neutral.

 The plane altho it looks like it went straight in... actually went in at a 45....a little more effort and it would have survive then who knows after that lol

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Re: Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2016, 07:35:04 AM »
Hi James,
What length of lines were you using?
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58'   ordered a set of 60's from Tom Morris yesterday morning right before the flight lol

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Re: Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2016, 08:22:21 AM »
For lack of a better word.. just gona say inexperience.

 At the top of the loop I went palm up and and started to slowly give it some "up" to come out the loop gradually but as it went it... I had my arm up in the air still as it was going into the loop. I'm think it may had held neutral.

 The plane altho it looks like it went straight in... actually went in at a 45....a little more effort and it would have survive then who knows after that lol

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Many would say that you should not switch hand positions going into inverted.

I would say that you could if you want to, but palm down rather than palm up.
 It is a much more relaxed position than palm up. Hold you arm out and see how much force you have to apply in the two positions.
The usual argument for palm up is that if you simply stop following the model with your hand then it will climb.
But this also means that it is more difficult to whip the model. I can whip better inverted than upright.

When learning inverted start of with a lazy eight. A bit more than half a loop then give down to exit.
Slowly extend the inverted portion, always knowing that you will give down to exit at the first sign of trouble.
Knowing exactly how you are going to bail out will make it easy to remember.
 Don't try to get low inverted at first, stay high to give yourself more time.

In R/C they say to stay 1 and 1/2 mistakes high when learning. Not possible with C/L, but at least you can stay 1/4 a mistake high :)

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2016, 08:26:08 AM »
Really thanks for the advice... soaking all of this in.  I'm very sad I crashed..but smile while repairing

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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2016, 09:14:37 AM »
   When the airplane gets into different attitudes, DON"T get caught up in trying to think, "up is down and down is up."  Right from the very beginning, think of it as Top Control and Bottom Control. No matter what the attitude of the airplane, the top is ALWAYS the top and vice versa. And as was already mentioned, try to avoid moving your hand around. That just takes time you might desperately need, and can cause over or under controlling. You are not in a place or doing things that rest of us haven't been in before! It's just a matter of focus and practice and some one on one help from time to time.
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Re: I Love Control Line
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2016, 03:45:49 PM »
Order of learning stunts: upright level flight, landing, take off, climb and dives, wing overs, loops, lazy eights, start the lazy eight but hold the plane inverted longer and longer before the outside loop. When you're inverted keep repeating down down down.

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