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Title: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 25, 2020, 06:23:57 PM
I'm updating Musciano's old Scientific Bonzo....
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: bob whitney on March 25, 2020, 08:01:48 PM
new full body Mini King with flaps LL~, .061 Diesel
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: mike londke on March 26, 2020, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: bob whitney on March 25, 2020, 08:01:48 PM
new full body Mini King with flops, .061 Diesel
Swinging a big club no doubt.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 06:53:32 AM
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new full body Mini King with flops, .061 Diesel

How about posting some pictures?  I wanta getta look at those "flops"   ;D
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: bob whitney on March 26, 2020, 07:28:19 AM
whats an A amungst friends ,I can not post pictures (too large)
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Roger Vizioli on March 26, 2020, 07:59:46 AM
Quote from: bob whitney on March 26, 2020, 07:28:19 AM
whats an A amungst friends ,I can not post pictures (too large)

Hmm, you are back from McDonalds early.
or
Have you stopped doing that for now!   D>K
Roger
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 11:54:59 AM
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new full body Mini King with flaps

Okay, so now you got me intrigued!  I did a Google search for Mini King model airplane and all it turned up were RC ARF crap.  I checked Outerzone and found nothing there.  Not much from a search here.  Who designed it?

I've attached a picture of the planes entered at Brodaks last year, which one is yours?

Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Brad Smith on March 26, 2020, 01:56:48 PM
Hmm thinking about fixing this up a td 049 up front and a black widow in each side Bob Reeves might remember this
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: mike londke on March 26, 2020, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: Brad Smith on March 26, 2020, 01:56:48 PM
Hmm thinking about fixing this up a td 049 up front and a black widow in each side Bob Reeves might remember this
That'd be neat but I don't think it's legal. It all adds up to more that .061 which is the limit for the event.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 04:23:31 PM
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That'd be neat but I don't think it's legal. It all adds up to more that .061 which is the limit for the event.

True.  But I'd love to see Brad fly that thing.  How about we let him enter it and then after he flies it , declare it illegal?  ;D
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: mike londke on March 26, 2020, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 04:23:31 PM
True.  But I'd love to see Brad fly that thing.  How about we let him enter it and then after he flies it , declare it illegal?  ;D
Great idea!!
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Chris Fretz on March 26, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 11:54:59 AM
Okay, so now you got me intrigued!  I did a Google search for Mini King model airplane and all it turned up were RC ARF crap.  I checked Outerzone and found nothing there.  Not much from a search here.  Who designed it?

I've attached a picture of the planes entered at Brodaks last year, which one is yours?
I see mine in the picture!
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Trostle on March 26, 2020, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: Chris Fretz on March 26, 2020, 06:41:37 PM
I see mine in the picture!

Which one?  What is it?

Keith
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Chris Fretz on March 26, 2020, 07:00:47 PM
Quote from: Trostle on March 26, 2020, 06:48:46 PM
Which one?  What is it?

Keith
Purple and yellow pathfinder with a big mig 61.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: John Paris on March 26, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
Chris's airplane did a great job.  Was a blast to watch.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: John Tate on March 26, 2020, 08:48:02 PM
Chris flew a great pattern. I thought Chris had one of the best performing 1/2A models there at Brodaks.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Chris Fretz on March 27, 2020, 03:42:04 AM
Quote from: John Paris on March 26, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
Chris's airplane did a great job.  Was a blast to watch.
Thanks John! It was fun to fly in a hurricane!
Quote from: John Tate on March 26, 2020, 08:48:02 PM
Chris flew a great pattern. I thought Chris had one of the best performing 1/2A models there at Brodaks.
She flew pretty good right off the bat,  the engine run was the tough thing to figure out.  Thanks John.


Chris
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: bob whitney on March 27, 2020, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: Scott Richlen on March 26, 2020, 11:54:59 AM
Okay, so now you got me intrigued!  I did a Google search for Mini King model airplane and all it turned up were RC ARF crap.  I checked Outerzone and found nothing there.  Not much from a search here.  Who designed it?

I've attached a picture of the planes entered at Brodaks last year, which one is yours?

it is the 3rd one back on the front row ,white fuse and red transparent wing.  BMJR KIT
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 27, 2020, 07:59:31 AM
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[it is the 3rd one back on the front row ,white fuse and red transparent wing.  BMJR KIT/quote]

Didn't realize it was a BMJR kit.  Thanks for identifying it.

Are you also thinking about stretching the moment arm to the tail?  That might be a way to gain a little more stability as all of these half-As seem to fly a bit "jinky" (compared to our "big-uns").
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: ray copeland on March 27, 2020, 08:02:48 AM
BMJR kit?  Can't find that one listed on their website.
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 27, 2020, 08:13:09 AM
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The Brodak fly in for 2020 has been cancelled due to the covid -19 outbreak and travel restrictions ,

We look forward to the 2021 Brodak fly in ,

Thanks ,

Will Davis , Mark Weiss and the entire Brodak family .

Guess there is no rush in finishing my Bonzo.... :(
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: bob whitney on March 28, 2020, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: Scott Richlen on March 27, 2020, 07:59:31 AM
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[it is the 3rd one back on the front row ,white fuse and red transparent wing.  BMJR KIT/quote]

Didn't realize it was a BMJR kit.  Thanks for identifying it.

Are you also thinking about stretching the moment arm to the tail?  That might be a way to gain a little more stability as all of these half-As seem to fly a bit "jinky" (compared to our "big-uns").

it is almost tail heavy as it is.   I would like to sharpen up the squares up a bit
Title: Re: Half-A Stunt at Brodak's - what are you building?
Post by: L0U CRANE on March 28, 2020, 01:03:54 PM
IMHO, the easiest and best way to reduce 1/2A models twitchiness is to put a "full-size" bellcrank and matching horns in it from the get-go.

Control surface deflections will feel more natural; they'll be much more like what we learned on, presuming you learned on more usual size models.

Closing down the handle line spacing can get to the point it is hard to manage, and comfortable width spacing may make just too much input unless we practically lock our hand rigid. Simpler: 3" bell crank and matching horns... Shouldn't take too much fiddling inside the structure..

Try it - you'll like it.. (whose slogan did that used to be..?).