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Title: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: De Hill on September 20, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Any news about the GSCB Combat fun fly that was held this weekend?
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 20, 2015, 08:25:36 PM
Last count, there were 57 airplanes there for display and show. We had a nice dinner afterwards. We are all just getting back home it's around 10 pm eastern time. Long day, lots of fun! I have about 8 hrs of video to go thru. I'm sure there will be loads of pictures and discussion in days to come, I for one had a absolute Blast!

Tom
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 20, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Yo De... Andre Mingiano here...

Deeze East Coast Crazies up here in Joisey gotta way of corruptin' a guy... ya know? Neva ate so much good pizza in my life... ya know? An when it comes to seein' combat planes turnin' n' burnin' with a honkin' Fox on the nose... this is where it's at, man, this is where it's at. Neva seen so many combat planes flyin' since maybe the '72 Glenview Nats? I mean, I wuz seein' planes planes from the Fabulous Fifties... saw 'em from the Sizzlin' Sixties... the Sensational Seventies... even saw some speed limit combat being flown with today's iron.  All day long, man, all day long. Saw some wild stuff, too, dude... some wild stuff.

Like, howz bout a Voodoo with a Scarinzi X engine on 50% nitro tearing a hole in the sky at 123 MPH?  Saw it bro. Saw it fly... saw the watches. It was the real deal, man, the real deal.

Said it before, an now that I've experienced it... all I gotta say is....

IT WAS EPIC, dude... EPIC!!

Later bro...

Andre Mingiano
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: De Hill on September 20, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
Did you get to see the 8th wonder of the world, Scarinzi's Basement?
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 20, 2015, 09:54:03 PM
Did I ever!  We spent several hours down there chewing the fat and looking at cool stuff.  Sharon and Ginger had a great time sitting out back in lawn chairs and visiting. Ginger's cool. 

Around supper time we loaded Larry and Ginger in The Black and asked where they wanted to go to eat... what a surprise: They chose to go to a small pizza place! We had great pizza and believe me, Larry can pack away the pizza!

De, it was really great to be able to spend such quality time with Larry and Ginger. The GSCB Combat Festival was frosting on the cake. There's some really great guys up here. Like Tom said, many of us went out and ate after we all loaded up our planes and stuff.  I swear, I was in tears with laughter at some of the stories and antics of the East Coast Crazies as we sat around the table. I don't know how we're going to pull it off, but I sure would like to come up here to the GSCB's Combat Festival again sometime.

Did I mention it was EPIC???
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 21, 2015, 05:44:42 PM
Wow... I'm stunned: There's NO chatter here from the East Coast Crazies about the GSCB VCF??

As for me, I've got pictures and stories... but I've got to wait until I get home before I can download the pics, resize/post etc. (We're in Blackwater Falls Lodge in West "By God" Virginia as I type.)

Maybe they just weren't ready for the high-energy 110% entertainment I provided?? Maybe they're having to recover??  LL~

Question for any of the East Coast Crazies that are still breathing: Do we want to share our stories/pictures here in this thread, or start a new one?
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: jfv on September 21, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
I've been waiting for pictures all day.  I know Tom is probably working on the video.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on September 21, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
Hi Andre, I will admit that I am still recovering but should be able to make a few comments. First, it was great to meet you and to watch you fly your Demon! I'm glad you got it up. Overall, it was very gratifying to see all of the guys having such a good time. The weather was perfect and the GSCB field evokes many memories for us East Coast guys. I could go on quite a while about the huge variety of ships we saw in the air yesterday but, hopefully, others will fill in some of that. It was also great to have LS there as so many of us were and are influenced by his prodigious volume of airplane design. He got to put up a flight with one of his FAI type planes and, as we watched, I'm sure we all wondered if we would still be flying like that, or at all, when or even if, we arrive where he is now!! Bob Hunt spent all day at the field gathering data, pictures and stories in order to create an article that we all can read in MA.

    One of my pet projects was the LS Speed Challenge. We got enough times to create a little 'contest'. I  am only partially embarrassed to say that I 'won' my own award which is a nice framed 8x10 picture of Larry holding the Super Satan and signed by Hisself. It was low key and loosely organized but the guys all did their best!     Results:  Schaefer  -7% Voodoo Fox LS .36xBBABC APC 8x8 50% fuel              14.4
                                      Ferraro   Super Satan   Fox .36xBBABC      APC 8x8  40%                   14.6
                                      Vigani    Double Diamond  Fox .36xBBABC  APC  8x8  40%                  15.2
                                      Luciano   Super Satan     Fox   .36xBBABC   APC 8x8   40%                 16.2
                                      Schaefer Half Fast Fox  .35 1958  CS (Blackhead) Taipan 9x6   25%     17.6
                                      Imbriaco  Scrambler  LS Fox .36xBB  9x6 ?  10%                                18.2
   That's it for now.   Cheers, TS
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Gerald Arana on September 21, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
WOW! Can't wait to see it. Sounds like you guys had a blast!

Cheers, Jerry
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Al Ferraro on September 21, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
 Hey Andre, We're all still dizzy from hanging on to those 120MPH Fox 36x's. n~  I'm glad you had a chance to witness the Jersey folklore come alive!! Must be something to do with that Jersey devil  VD~ . My Super Satan hit 123 mph and Tom's trimmed down Voodoo hit 125mph. It's too bad the Super Tigres couldn't keep up with the Foxes and they had to go home in pieces.    It was great to meet you and watch you tear up the sky with your Demon!
Al
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 21, 2015, 07:27:37 PM
 Okay

I have to say I did need to recover a bit!

First, I want to say it was truly a pleasure to meet Andre! I think he is still a bit shocked at how many Italians he met. He has only seen them in the movies, ya know! Just kidding and I can say that because I'm full blooded! Enough of that.

On the fun scale, we had a boat load of it.

 I honestly don't know where to begin. I guess we'll start with a picture I'm not so proud of. That is the acceptance of the LS blown up Fox award!

I was able to go through some video today during some breaks in work. The first posting will be a very entertaining flight by our guest Andre with his 36x powered Demon!

Tom
 
https://youtu.be/hSCJ7oH9SKk
 
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 21, 2015, 07:43:09 PM
Eh, finally some of da boys are startin' to check in. You's guys sure put on a show with those screamin' Foxes. Touched me right here, man, to see those old relics turnin' in such times.

Yeah, shame 'bout the Tiggers. Show n' go.. or blow n' go home. The circle is harsh, man, harsh. No place for sissy engines.

Yeah, it was great havin' the Godfather there with us overseein' us doin' it right.

I know lil' Tommy will do us proud with the videos.

All's for now.

Andre Mingiano

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 21, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
CT Schaefer with his award winning flight!


https://youtu.be/gcn1mbY-5vg
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 21, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
Thanks for the efforts on the videos, Tom! They're turning out great! Looking forward to seeing more of 'em as you get the time.

So, thus far...

* Tom "CT" got the Speed Demon award. (Wow, I'm gonna' have to up the nitro from 10% and hit my needle better if I'm EVER even gonna' get close enough to even get a whiff of that Voodoo's exhaust!!!)

* Lil' Tommy (he's just a punk kid at 51 compared to us old farts there) got the L/S Award. (Did you break an engine Tom?)

* I got the "Idiot That Drove The Farthest" award!  BUT... I got the coolest present! I received a "Lost Foam" jig set for a "Killer" made by none other than Bob Hunt himself!!  Thanks Bob! (Eat your heart's out peasants!)

All for now.  May be a while before I can log-in again... getting ready to REALLY hit the interior of West "By God" Virginia and doubt we'll have WiFi at the cabin we're headed for.  All will be good though as long as we don't hear banjo music.  ~^

There were so any fun and goofy moments that it would be nigh impossible to recall 'em all.  I'm sure there will be all sorts of tall tales that's gonna be told here n' elsewhere for a spell!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 22, 2015, 06:52:41 AM
 Guarantee, no exaggerating here at all. y1. Come next year and see for yourself. :o

Andre : Hope you and the Mrs. got a glance of the NYC skyline .

AND: did you order a Taylor Ham and egg samwitch for breafiss  at a Joisey Diner ??

Inquiring IIIIIIIIItalians want to know. D>K
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: badbill on September 22, 2015, 09:54:45 AM
Okayour guest Andre with his 36x powered Demon!

https://youtu.be/hSCJ7oH9SKk

Quite impressive, and I have NEVER seen anyone fly like that, it seemed like he was 2 steps ahead of the plane, just slinging it around! Really reminded me of this-

http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php/topic,40713.0.html

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Al Ferraro on September 22, 2015, 10:41:38 AM
(Did you get to see the 8th wonder of the world, Scarinzi's Basement?)
   I too have been to the TOP SECRET BUNKER !!! y1 That's where LS schooled me on how to set up and mod the Fox 36x to get 120mph plus performance. ;D He also showed me the development and progression of all the Super Satan prototypes, about 20 all inventoried and tagged. >:D Attached is a photo of the Satans stashed away in the TOP SECRET BUNKER. There's also an unbelievable inventory of engines and planes. I hope I don't lose my TOP SECRET clearance by posting this photo. Enjoy this one because I dare not post any additional photos.  n1
Al
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 22, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
We have internet access!  Amazing!  (You wouldn't BELIEVE how far back in the sticks we are in West "By God" Virginia right now.)

Bob:

Oh how sickening. I can only imagine how you must feel.  Terrible news. Hope things will be more encouraging on the salvage efforts by the "pros".  If your pics can't be salvaged, I'll bet we will all pitch in and try to share what few we've taken so you can piece together an article. I won't be downloading mine off the camera until I'm home... then I'll know what sort of quality (or lack of) they turned out to be.

Frank:

I wimped out on the NYC skyline. Just didn't want to face the traffic and potential wrong turns.  Deep inside I'm only an Oakie, 'ya know!  We've marked that one down for another time.  I also weinie-ed out on going back in to find a pork roll "Taylor Ham" breakfast sammich at a sure'nuf Joisey diner.  That one will have to wait for the "next time" also.  Sort of regret not trying for the sammich now, but it seemed like the thing to do at the time. (Haste.)

badbill:

Thanks for the kind words. I missed my needle by a click or two, hence the engine sagging slightly during maneuvers. Oh well.  I also got lucky on doing some of what I call "heart stoppers" for the troops. (Flying high, then a quick low pass.)  Used to love to do those "back when". Most fun was taking it overhead on a wingover, do a "heart stopper" about a 1' off the ground... right back over the top for another wingover and follow it with a "heart stopper" about a 1' off the ground, repeat until either:

A. I tire of it.

B. I clip some grass.

C. I crash!

Must admit, my "bravado" isn't NEAR what it used to be and I don't fly as low as long or often as I did back in the day.

Al:

As you well know, Larry's forte was development. He was very, VERY, thorough and used "controls" so the results MEANT something and not just shots in the dark. I so enjoyed his company over the weekend.

All fer now!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 23, 2015, 03:27:52 AM
Shawn Cook-

 Shawn just cruis'n. He makes it look effortless!




 https://youtu.be/UvdxtVOC9JI
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 23, 2015, 04:32:55 AM
" Lil' Tommy (he's just a punk kid at 51 compared to us old farts there) got the L/S Award. (Did you break an engine Tom?)"

Andre-
  In preparation for the event, Al was kind enough to rework and setup one sweet running Xbb ABC  from one of my fathers well used engines.  3 weeks prior to the event we were making some test flights with Al, Tom S, and Larry...... We pumped up the Nitro with some of Tom's White Lightning and hit the mark! As the guys where looking at their watches, I took my fairly heavy Carbon fiber *Stealth Super Satan and started stunting. I got a little too aggressive and tight and I lost the ship straight in. The ground was extremely hard and I truly believe i ever so slightly cracked/weakened the case just behind the intake web (the plane had appeared to be a total loss)..... Anyway the following week I bolted the engine on my tapered wing Super Satan and the top end blew off the engine! 10% nitro for those that will ask! Hence the award!

Anyway, I was determined to rebuild the plane. Had a test flight on it Thursday to make sure it wouldn't fold and flew it Sunday. Al again, was kind enough to put together another engine for the event.

I only ran 10% Sunday as I had no break in on the engine and 120 is a bit too fast for this rookie!


* Stealth- Carbon veil+ Transparent yellow Ultracote= olive drab. Not a good color for the GSCB field!



https://youtu.be/dUcIphF09jc
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 23, 2015, 05:36:07 AM
To all that attended and took photos. At some point in the near future, I will put together a highlight video of the event and would like to incorporate as many photos in as possible to tell the story. Please email me anything you may have at t_luciano at comcast dot net. I'm praying that Bob had some luck with his SD card. Please get these to me sooner than later.


Thanks,
Tom
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 23, 2015, 06:51:33 AM
Tom:

Okay... now I remember!  It was that "Fractured Fox" from a previous flying session!  LL~

As for any of my pics (I only took a few, knowing that Bob H. was taking many!)... as mentioned above, it will be after our trip before I download them.  You'll get copies shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on September 23, 2015, 12:09:19 PM
I have sent all my pics to Tom Luciano. I look forward to next gathering. Wish there could be two events, one in Spring to open flying seasom, and another in Fall. Even better , how about a revival of Snowbird Meet? Does anyone recall when the last Snowbird meet was held?
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 23, 2015, 06:21:04 PM
Bob:

That's encouraging!  Need to breathe a prayer for success!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: kenneth cook on September 24, 2015, 03:22:18 AM
                Thanks Tom for the video. Shawn's flight was a bit short. The person starting the plane ( Larry Wilks ) is  the owner of the plane. The power was a Supertiger G-21 .35. Something in the engine broke towards the end of the flight. The prop would only move from 6:00 - 12:00. The piston still moved but I believe the bottom of the rod broke off. I haven't had a chance to see what exactly happened. The plane was designed by John Ashford and it was called the "Heller".
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 24, 2015, 05:49:57 AM
Ken!

I feel so dumb.  Just now connected the dots to realize that Shawn is your son, and you are THE "Ken Cook" that frequents this forum!  HB~>

We gotta' do name tags next time.  :!

BTW: Shawn seems to be a pretty cool kid and has a lot of talent!  I can tell yer (rightfully) proud of him.

All fer now.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on September 24, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
Here is something that may be interesting to some. I used tom's video to catch the sound of my Voodoo with my instrument tuner so I could get an idea of the rpm's during that flight. The peak before launch was 17,400 rpm and in the air 20,700. The ground rpm jives up with my bench readings of 16.5 using 10/29 fuel. Fuel for the flight was 50%. The air rpm seems close as well based on much data that I have gathered over the years. The prop is an 8x8 apc which checks out to about 7 1/2 pitch. Using an online calculator it shows a theoretical speed of 147 and, based on my previous experiments, the 125 mph is 85% of that. My collection of numbers shows that to be a very good combo for speed on this type of plane. Interesting. I never thought of the ole' BB as a + 20k motor!  It will be really cool to figure out rpm of my 1958 Blackhead on the Half Fast! That thing was screaming with the Taipan 9x6 on Missle Mist. I'll work on it and report.    TS
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 24, 2015, 06:37:12 PM
Tom,
  That's pretty neat!

Next up Tom's Half Fast

Jim and Al on deck.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijfn8qmsZhs


Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 25, 2015, 09:50:18 PM
Al Flying his Super Satan. Jim with his original design Double Diamond.


https://youtu.be/QKF-uYxerU0
https://youtu.be/_EvRqtgO0mw

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 26, 2015, 12:50:24 PM
Frank with his nice flying original design Scrambler.

Jim with his original design Up' n At'm. This is another really nice flying plane!

https://youtu.be/BA-SC1CNN74



https://youtu.be/_b78I1pGUfI






Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 26, 2015, 02:20:16 PM
Tom:
Neat video of an old geezer. Next year, I'll try to  ramp it up a bit.
Frank
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 26, 2015, 06:52:48 PM
More good videos Tom!  Thanks so much for your effort. When I get home I will be saving these to a GSCB VCF 2015 folder as souvenirs.

Frank:

You gotta' be kidding!  We're in our 60's!  The fact that you can even FLY that thing is doing something!  As pretty as your Scrambler was, I wouldn't want to risk it trying to sharpen skills that haven't been used in decades. I'd build something QUICK and EASY to build and use THAT to sharpen up with. Some Demons would be perfect. That's what I'm thinking about doing: Building me up a few Demons with basic finishes and use those to get back some of the skills I use to have. You've still got the goods, I guarantee it!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Motorman on September 26, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
You can build a Sneaker as easy as a Demon.

MM 
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 26, 2015, 07:39:25 PM
More good videos Tom!  Thanks so much for your effort. When I get home I will be saving these to a GSCB VCF 2015 folder as souvenirs.

Frank:

You gotta' be kidding!  We're in our 60's!  The fact that you can even FLY that thing is doing something!  As pretty as your Scrambler was, I wouldn't want to risk it trying to sharpen skills that haven't been used in decades. I'd build something QUICK and EASY to build and use THAT to sharpen up with. Some Demons would be perfect. That's what I'm thinking about doing: Building me up a few Demons with basic finishes and use those to get back some of the skills I use to have. You've still got the goods, I guarantee it!

Andre:
Thanks for the kind remarks. You and many others like us whom I shall refer to as "retreads" are thrilled to be able to do it again. Just can't believe near a half century has gone by since we did flew the same ships/engines back in the day.  The rush  is the same;  but definitely  sweeter.
Let's all  hope to  be like L.S. in twenty years and the late great  "Johnny D"( D'Ottavio) who was line jerkin' until 90 ! Amazing.
 Tommy thanks again for producing these.

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 26, 2015, 07:44:26 PM
You can build a Sneaker as easy as a Demon.

MM 

You must be more of a builder whiz than I am: Diamond airfoil constant chord vs conventional airfoil tapered chord??

Frank:

Saw a reply, but only a quote of my post... am I missing something???

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 26, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
Andre:
Fixed that. Too much red wine , stuffed shells and garlic bread is my excuse !

Later,
Frank
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 26, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Andre:
Fixed that. Too much red wine , stuffed shells and garlic bread is my excuse !

Later,
Frank


^^^^^
 ;D

Here in the midwest we have Lew Woolard: 91 years young and just watched him fly the pattern with his stunt ship today!!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 26, 2015, 08:39:35 PM
Gentlemen,
  Thank you for the segway into our next flight. No one other then LS hisself. I would like to quote a forum member that made a comment about LS.

 Howard Rush-  "Larry Scarinzi, just an old guy in a plaid shirt with bad jokes. When he gets in the center of the circle, 50 years goes away and he's Larry Scarinzi"

So true.......

    I can tell you, I certainly appreciate all the time and memories that have been created from all of these guys! We were blessed to have 3 UMAC greats this past Sunday at the field with us in Larry, George Rizkalla, and Mike Luciano. These guys have touched so many people in what they did and still do for the hobby.

THANK YOU!
Tom


https://youtu.be/eSZFyKdAEo8
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 26, 2015, 08:57:25 PM

https://youtu.be/eSZFyKdAEo8


Da' MAN!

Looks to me like he still has a can or two of whupazz stashed away on the shelf!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: jfv on September 27, 2015, 06:38:22 AM
Great job on the videos Tom.  You had the camera perfectly placed.  It was really fun the fly my Up'n At'm design again after after 59 years.  The memories this event brings back are wonderful and makes us all feel like kids again.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 03:39:52 PM
HOME safe and sound!

Had a great time at the TGD's Stunt Contest in spite of being a bit under the weather.  Now it's time to START POSTING PICS of the EPIC GSCB VCF 2015!  First we'll start with airplanes.

(Note: I've left the files large so you can expand and see a bit of detail. This means I can only post one at a time.)

First up:

Frank Imbriaco's EXCELLENT looking and flying "Scrambler", and his "Killer".  I was NOT prepared for some of the SUPERB finishes many of the airplanes were sporting!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 03:43:59 PM
Some more...

The purple plane is the "Double Diamond" that was screaming around in one of the above videos. Also pictured that I can readily identify are such planes as Winder, Super Satan, T-Square, Super Swoop, Voodoo's, Tyrantula, Combat Cat...

 
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
Some more stuff, with some VERY historical stuff included.  See that black/red tapered wing airplane with a whale tale?  That is one of the (if not THE) original Greased Lightning's Larry built back in the early-mid 1950s.  Now, compare it to what some of the best FAI/Fast combat planes have evolved to as evidenced by the foam leading edge/filmed "thingie" in the foreground.  I'd say the east coast guys (Larry Scarinzi in particular) were DEFINITELY onto something as far back as the mid-1950s!!





Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
Next up, MORE historical airplanes for us combat crazies...

The first yellow airplane in the right column is one of the ORIGINAL Larry Scarinzi Super Satan's used in the M.A.N. article back in '67.

The next yellow airplane is the original Larry Scarinzi "Giant Killer" that Consolidated kitted in the late 1950s.

The plane with the tapered trailing edge beside the Giant Killer is a Scarinzi "Sting Ray". 

The yellow airplane to the left of the Sting Ray is the original Larry Scarinzi "Blitz" used in the M.A.N. article of 1964.

The next yellow airplane to the left of the red/black airplane is yet another original development "Super Satan".

And the red and black airplane is one of Larry's first designs from back in the early 1950s (I think?) called a "Trident". (I think?  Some help on this one would be much appreciated!)





Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:04:22 PM
Here's a better look at the "Trident"...

Just LOOK at the finish on that thing!  It's something like, what... 60+ years old??
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
More stuff...

I know the yellow plane is a "Half-Fast"... and I think the white one with the lines attached is an "Up and At'em"... then there's a Ringmaster... and I think Tom L's Super Satan?

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:09:56 PM
More stuff...

I think I recall Larry telling me that black-tailed airplane with the striped wing was THE original "Killer" from way back when.

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:11:35 PM
More...

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:13:37 PM
Here's another look at Frank's "Scrambler".  You guys wouldn't believe the finishes these East Coast Crazies put on their airplanes!!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:16:04 PM
Oops... almost forgot this pic.  That's a Super Swoop in the foreground, followed by a Winder, then a T-Square, then over to the left a Scarinzi "Werewolf"...
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
Gotta' throw this one in...

This is one of Bob Hunt's creations. It is a twin engine (electric) with retracts.  This is the first "World Class" stunt airplane I've ever seen. It was immaculate.  I would have LOVED to have seen Bob fly the stunt pattern with this thing and get to experience world class flying to boot!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:07:39 PM
Now for one of the best reasons we enjoy this hobby: Friends!

First up, Frank Imbriaco signals to turn his "Killer" loose!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
And here's Frank "Mr. Suave" Imbriaco putting his Killer through its paces...
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:11:28 PM
Now it's time to tune his "Scrambler" just so... and off it will go...

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
Now Frank is holding Tom L's Super Satan as Tom dials it in so it can burn up the air...

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
That's Tom (center) holding his superb looking "Blitz" while Roy Glenn (left) looks on.  Noticed Bob Hunt's sweet looking electric Sweet Sweep he's building there on the ground?

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
And now a picture I just HAD to take!  That's Tom L on the left holding his Blitz and Larry on the right holding his ORIGINAL Blitz, as Mr. Hampshire (drat, I've already forgot his first name!) looks on.  BTW, Mr. Hampshire has Jimmy Hoffa's body somewhere in his huge and packed toolbox! Gotta' be true 'cause Hamp said it himself!



Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:21:07 PM
And here's Tom "CT" holding his scorching Scarinzi 36X powered Voodoo.  They aren't called the "Circle Burners" for nuttin'!

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Tom dialing in the needle on a Super Swoop that's fixin' to tear up the sky...

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
And now for an interesting side trip...

That morning as I was looking over the planes that had arrived thus far, I noticed the engine on Frank's "Killer".  Hmm.

"Frank, is that engine exactly like you received it?  I mean, you've done no mods to it at all?" I asked.

Frank responded that yes, it was just as received. Seems that Duke Fox had given that engine to Larry Scarinzi "way back when", and seeing as it wasn't an X engine, Larry sold it to Frank for a meager sum here a while back.  

Interesting.

I then explained to Frank that way back in '72, Duke assigned me the task of hand building 50 Fox 36 "Sport" C/L engines for the purpose of giving away at a contest in the hopes of securing a win in slow combat.  As I recall, on all the engines I retimed the crank, the venturi was bored to the maximum that still allowed suction, fitted with the last "hi-compression" version of the 36X head (if you'll look closely I very lightly turned the case fins to match the diameter of the 36X head), hand fitted the pistons and sleeves to within a tenth of a thousandth round or less, hand polished the cranks, etc, etc. For identification purposes, I had milled the angled intake to be squared off to differentiate the modified engine cases from the stock 36 "Sport" cases. The batch of engines impressed Duke enough that when he got back from the contest he placed me in charge of the C/L assembly lines.  Anyway, I explained to Frank that the engine ought to outlast him!  

Upon learning this, Frank chuckled and couldn't wait to tell Larry that Larry had sold him (cheap) a hand built engine that was produced in ultra rare quantities!!



  

Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
And for my last picture, another side trip...

In the late 1960s, Larry was laid off from Bendix Corporation during a downsizing. Having a wife and family to feed, he begin to load up the trunk of his car and make the regional meets, selling products out of the trunk. A rolling hobby shop, if you will.  During that time, Larry begin to mix fuel and sell it.  Of course, in the best LS tradition, the fuel had different colors of dyes in them and fanciful names.  One fuel he produced was a 50% nitro blend that he dyed yellow and marketed as "Panther @#$%".  He chuckled when he told me it didn't sell... in fact he could barely give it away!  So, he ditched the yellow dye, retaining the natural clear look of the fuel, and changed the name to "White Lightning".  It then sold like hot cakes!

This was too good to pass up.

I spent a bit of time one evening concocting a fake "label" for his ill-fated brew and slapped it on a jug of Duke's Fuel, which is sort of yellow.  While visiting with Larry at his place on Saturday evening, I said "hey Larry... look what I found at a garage sale!"... and pulled out the jug. He really seemed to enjoy the ruse. However, he said it needed some more yellow dye. So, it was off to the basement and he retrieved the original jar of yellow dye that was used in his yellow airplanes as well as Panther @#$%, and doctored it up to his satisfaction.  We both had fun with this at the Combat Festival!

Anyway, while at the festival I snapped a pic of the label so I could share it here, and though it isn't the best of pics, I hope you can read the ingredients listed on the side!!

 
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 27, 2015, 06:11:50 PM
In recap:

It was a lifetime experience. I so thoroughly enjoyed being among the culture of the East Coast Crazies.  For this Oakie hick, that wild "Joisey" accent was like talking to Mafia members all day! (Especially Hamp!)  Loved being with them.  They're probably some of the most fun loving C/L guys I've been around.  (That night many of us went out to eat together... I was literally in tears with laughter several times at the stories and antics of them!) All that I met were simply great.  I do hope that I can someday make the trek to "New Joisey" to spend the weekend celebrating our combat heritage and enjoying their fellowship again.

Many, many great memories were made that I will treasure the rest of my life.

Thanks to all of you East Coast Crazies!!!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 27, 2015, 07:13:09 PM
I just took the time to reread this whole thread. Very entertaining and a lot of good pictures!

Andre, I love the picture of myself, Tom, and Larry with our Blitz'. That's a keeper!

Next up, Shawn with the Half Fast and Roy doing a little schooling in a speed limit practice session. Correction, I think that's Shawn with his Mark 4/6 powered Demon! Going so fast its hard to tell!

BTW, Youtube kills the resolution on these videos. They are crystal clear on my computer.


https://youtu.be/G6j7QhtwRJU


https://youtu.be/37KxgX7JQHw




Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 27, 2015, 08:17:58 PM
And now for an interesting side trip...

That morning as I was looking over the planes that had arrived thus far, I noticed the engine on Frank's "Killer".  Hmm.

"Frank, is that engine exactly like you received it?  I mean, you've done no mods to it at all?" I asked.

Frank responded that yes, it was just as received. Seems that Duke Fox had given that engine to Larry Scarinzi "way back when", and seeing as it wasn't an X engine, Larry sold it to Frank for a meager sum here a while back.  

Interesting.

I then explained to Frank that way back in '72, Duke assigned me the task of hand building 50 Fox 36 "Sport" C/L engines for the purpose of giving away at a contest in the hopes of securing a win in slow combat.  As I recall, on all the engines I retimed the crank, the venturi was bored to the maximum that still allowed suction, fitted with the last "hi-compression" version of the 36X head (if you'll look closely I very lightly turned the case fins to match the diameter of the 36X head), hand fitted the pistons and sleeves to within a tenth of a thousandth round or less, hand polished the cranks, etc, etc. For identification purposes, I had milled the angled intake to be squared off to differentiate the modified engine cases from the stock 36 "Sport" cases. The batch of engines impressed Duke enough that when he got back from the contest he placed me in charge of the C/L assembly lines.  Anyway, I explained to Frank that the engine ought to outlast him!  

Upon learning this, Frank chuckled and couldn't wait to tell Larry that Larry had sold him (cheap) a hand built engine that was produced in ultra rare quantities!!

Andre : Funny thing. Was on the phone about an hour ago with L.S. hisself and teasing him about this very engine. Then, I tuned in here and read your comments about it  and breakout into more laughs. Kinda reminds me of the time when my dear late friend, John Ross, went to grab a bite with the boys at the Mickey D's across from the Middlesex Club field. Upon reaching the front door, John sez :" Larry, I got the door" and quickly Larry retorts , " Nah,  let me get it ".
John obliges, walks in a few feet , glances  down, spots a nice $20, and scoops it up . Larry melted. " Oh, God how , why , gee, , damn, moan "...

I'm very glad I never sold this engine. Guy from Colorado was sniffing, but I hung on to it  .As you probably recall, there's  a real nasty bark to the exhaust. (no doubt  somewhat assisted by machined exhaust extension made by the one and only (late) Roman "Roe"" Battlin'" Biddle , a genuine   UMAC'er. Roe's green silk Killer from the 60's was there ( it's Larry's now) - the one with the mean lookin'  machined venturi ram air fixture a top the  Tigre G-35.

Andre : Thanks for posting so many neat photos. We all hope you make your way out to this neck of the woods again !



  


Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: jfv on September 29, 2015, 03:25:50 PM
Great news Bob.  It would have been a shame to lose all those moments that you captured.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on September 29, 2015, 03:43:26 PM
I have some great news! All the photos that I took at the Fun-Fly on the 20th were able to be retrieved from the corrupted Sandisk.  #^ #^ #^

I'll go ahead now and start on the article for Model Aviation.  H^^

Later - Bob Hunt


 #^
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 29, 2015, 04:53:40 PM
Bob:

WONDERFUL NEWS!!  #^ ~> #^

Out-do yourself on the article!  Make us all sound AWESOME!!   LL~
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on September 29, 2015, 06:10:53 PM
Good news Bob. Andre, Thanks for posting up your own great pics!
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 29, 2015, 07:01:43 PM
  Yes, that is great news about the pictures! #^ 

Up next we have Paul Rizkalla with his smooth flying Killer. The Killer is a super great flying plane for those who never had the pleasure to see/fly one. You think the Killer is popular with the "East Coast Crazies?"...There were 9 at the event!

  Then Al with his Maiden flight on the Super Swoop!



https://youtu.be/qY0cDy3cWqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51sKhVkjsFM
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Andre Ming on September 30, 2015, 06:25:28 PM

LOL!  That's sounds like a line "Bones" the Doctor would say to Commander Kirk on the Enterprise of Star Trek!!


Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Dean Pappas on September 30, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
That's great, Bob.
I'm glad the pictures were recoverable.
later,
  Dean P.
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 30, 2015, 11:22:01 PM
Shawn with the half fast.

For the upcoming Ringmaster Fly a thon, a couple of Ring flights. Dont think we'll have any this weekend with the hurricane coming in. But hey, you never know!

Keith and Shawn with their Ringmasters!


https://youtu.be/VvnNa3auVt4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNmlgbm0hU0


https://youtu.be/d59PVUnpYVM
Title: Re: GSCB Combat fun fly
Post by: Tom Luciano on September 30, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
Here's the Top Speed guys!