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Title: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 16, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
Hey Guys, I would like to find the plans for the Grey Ghost as well as the Ballerina, They were both published in late 50s, early 60s; Both were .35 sized stunt ships. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards, Phil Bare
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Leester on January 16, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
RSM kits the Grey Ghost and Eric sells plans to his kits. FM has the Ballerina III plans if that's what you need.
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 16, 2013, 05:10:33 PM
Hi Leester, Thank you very much, that helps alot.           Phil
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Trostle on January 16, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
Ballerina by Charles Lickliter was originally in Flying Models, October 1959.  Had full size formers and airfoils.  When Bob Hunt was editor of Flying Models, he often featured reruns of those original articles, including this one in Flying Models, April 1997.  These should be available from Flying Models.  The 59 plans are available from the AMA plans service.

The Grey Ghost by Larry Scarinzi was in Flying Models, February 1960.  Plans are listed in the AMA plans service.

Keith
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 16, 2013, 08:50:30 PM
Hi Trostle, thanks for kicking my brain into gear. I have both mags and will have to dig them out.  My magazine collection is pretty complete from the late 50s and early 60s and are cased and stored away. With the Grey Ghost being available in kit form, that is probably the way that I will go. The Ballerina will come afterwords. The Cheek cowel version is the one that I like.

Regards, Phil Bare
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Mark Scarborough on January 16, 2013, 11:37:07 PM
Bill Sawyer did a small run of the Ballerina kits,there may be a couple out there floating around
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 17, 2013, 07:50:27 AM
Thanks Mark, Good to know that there may be a kit some where of the Ballerina.  One may pop up.             Phil
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on January 17, 2013, 10:26:32 AM
Ballerina by Charles Lickliter was originally in Flying Models, October 1959.  Had full size formers and airfoils.  When Bob Hunt was editor of Flying Models, he often featured reruns of those original articles, including this one in Flying Models, April 1997.  These should be available from Flying Models.  The 59 plans are available from the AMA plans service.

The Grey Ghost by Larry Scarinzi was in Flying Models, February 1960.  Plans are listed in the AMA plans service.

Keith

I think these were all new articles and plans.  Tom Dixon wrote some of them and so did Bob Hunt.  Charles Lickliter wrote the Ballerina article.  This was a new article and the plane may be a later version of the Ballerina than 59.  Bob Hunt is great.  What he did at Flying Models and later Model Aviation was just fantastic....Vulcan, USA 1, Atom etc.
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: PerttiMe on January 17, 2013, 12:50:56 PM
There's a magazine scan of the FM Grey Ghost plan floating around the interwebs. Looks like it is enlarged from the article. Lines are thick but I suppose it can be used if you really want to.
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Joshua Harel on January 17, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
Here is a link to the Grey Ghost plans available for download in PDF format:

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3423
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: EddyR on January 17, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Quite a few years ago I drew a set of plans for the Grey Ghost as I was thinking of building it. I changed the spar as the one in the plane is very odd.It seems like Larry didn't have enough 1/2 sq and had to use a bunch of short pieces. ~^
Ed
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Randy Cuberly on January 18, 2013, 09:08:36 PM
Quite a few years ago I drew a set of plans for the Grey Ghost as I was thinking of building it. I changed the spar as the one in the plane is very odd.It seems like Larry didn't have enough 1/2 sq and had to use a bunch of short pieces. ~^
Ed

Actually, the spar used in the Grey Ghost is very structurally sound.  It's very strong where it needs to be and light where it can be.  Given the type of construction used I wouldn't alter it unless you're adding sheeting etc.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Mike_Ostella on January 20, 2013, 10:14:36 AM
Ballerina was in Oct 59 Flying models. The plane pictured in that article was the cowl cheek version, but the plans to not correctly interpret that version. The FM plans show a Nobleresuqe looking nose. When I built mine I did an interpretation of the photos with the cowl cheeks and the birdhouse canopy. While I was involved in the project, I corresponded with Mr Lickliter and he offered that the Ballerina III was the best flying version. That one appears in FM April 97.
Mike Ostella
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Mike_Ostella on January 20, 2013, 10:50:37 AM
Here are some more pics
The maroon and Gold Ballerina was by Tom Sugar I believe. Mike Keville might remember.
Mike Ostella
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 20, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
Thanks for posting the pictures Mike. I always liked the looks of the Ballerina, especially the cheek cowel version.

Same with the Grey Ghost, its looks was always what I liked about it.

They will make good additions to my fleet.

Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: ericrule on January 20, 2013, 02:50:30 PM
Hi Phil:

I worked with Larry to make certain that the plan we have in the RSM kit is accurate and properly reflects Larry's Grey Ghost as  designed. Both the kit and plans are available at www.rsmdistribution.com

Regards
Eric Rule
Title: Re: Grey Ghost and Ballerina
Post by: Phil Bare on January 20, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
Thanks Eric, I will be ordering a Grey Ghost kit soon.

Regards, Phil