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Dwayne

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Good news in Canada
« on: March 25, 2019, 06:54:02 PM »
Transport Canada has ruled that control line models are no threat  to air traffic and therefore no identification stickers or numbers  are required on our planes. It is my hope that the same happens for our friends in the States, with all the nonsense happening for rc flyers might we see a resurgence of c/l flyers? We can hope.    y1 #^

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2019, 08:19:34 PM »
Chris Cox works for Transport Canada. He’s a threat.
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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2019, 08:27:37 PM »
That is great news! Thanks for posting that.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2019, 08:45:06 PM »
So first the Brits, and now our Canadian brothers. Now we need the Aussies and New Zealand to step up. Then we can take up a collection and try to influence Zamboanga and that ought to shame the Feds into admitting that control line planes are not remote controlled, they don't use/need GPS or autopilot, and aren't "drones" but are strapped to the operator on the ground.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2019, 01:13:06 AM »
Transport Canada has ruled that control line models are no threat  to air traffic and therefore no identification stickers or numbers  are required on our planes. It is my hope that the same happens for our friends in the States, with all the nonsense happening for rc flyers might we see a resurgence of c/l flyers? We can hope.    y1 #^
Hi Dwayne,
You sure you don’t mean England? I have not seen anything for Canada, but have seen documentation from GB.
Do you have a reference I could look up?
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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2019, 05:00:55 AM »
HA ha ha ha,...when I read the topic head line....I thought you were gonna say that Trudeau resigned.....ha ha ha....but no such luck.

Sorry for the politic sidebar.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2019, 06:41:31 AM »
HA ha ha ha,...when I read the topic head line....I thought you were gonna say that Trudeau resigned.....ha ha ha....but no such luck.

Sorry for the politic sidebar.

T.

No problem, we could be so lucky eh? LOL

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2019, 06:45:43 AM »
Hi Dwayne,
You sure you don’t mean England? I have not seen anything for Canada, but have seen documentation from GB.
Do you have a reference I could look up?

Yes Canada, sorry I don't have a link, an email was sent out by the President of Balsa Beavers control line club in Toronto.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2019, 06:53:12 AM »
Darkness is dispelled with acts of kindness and selfless good deeds.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2019, 08:22:42 AM »
like Bob mentioned in the "brits got it right" thread, now with this as well, perhaps a FLOOD of emails to the AMA offices is in order....

Tyler Dobbs - Government Affairs Director
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No need for snide remarks about the AMA being useless and the such...  take your ire out on them for these bogus rules, not me!  Nothing happens playing keyboard commando on a forum.  All we can do is "play the game" and hope for the best.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2019, 10:06:32 AM »
I finally got a reply from the FAA.  #^  I am pasting it in here.  Even though they say this and at least it is coming from an FAA person, i am still not comfortable until I can read it in the regulations themselves.  Why can't they just add that one sentence it to the regulations"  Any good lawyer could do that in about three pages. y1

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Mr. Culbertson,

Thank you for contacting the FAA's Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Support Center. 

Control line models do not require registration.

Sincerely,

Paul

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Please follow up with any further inquiries at UASHelp@faa.gov.  Additional information is also available at https://www.faa.gov/uas/.

We appreciate your feedback.  Please select:  UAS Safety and Integration Division AUS-400.   ???


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Are control line model airplanes required to be registered? There is great confusion in our community. The AMA (our Community Based Organization) says control line, free flight and indoor model airplanes are exempt from registration but we can find nothing in anything coming from the FAA that confirms this.
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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2019, 10:13:51 AM »
cool!  print that out and keep it in your box!

it'd be even cooler if you could get it on FAA letterhead!

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2019, 10:25:21 AM »
cool!  print that out and keep it in your box!

it'd be even cooler if you could get it on FAA letterhead!

I already have!

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2019, 10:30:03 AM »
Nice!  If not letterhead, then maybe some email address/date kind of info.  I'll PM you my email in case you are comfortable with forwarding the email.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2019, 10:32:33 AM »
Nice!  If not letterhead, then maybe some email address/date kind of info.  I'll PM you my email in case you are comfortable with forwarding the email.
Happy to - Ken

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2019, 10:35:35 AM »
Just think if I get caught flying my control line plane and arrested to be locked up with a place to sleep and food to eat.  You think our politicians, FAA and AMA would care? S?P
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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2019, 10:22:35 AM »
I finally got a reply from the FAA.  #^  I am pasting it in here.  Even though they say this and at least it is coming from an FAA person, i am still not comfortable until I can read it in the regulations themselves.  Why can't they just add that one sentence it to the regulations"  Any good lawyer could do that in about three pages. y1

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Mr. Culbertson,

Thank you for contacting the FAA's Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Support Center. 

Control line models do not require registration.

Sincerely,

Paul

Paul Hamilton

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Please follow up with any further inquiries at UASHelp@faa.gov.  Additional information is also available at https://www.faa.gov/uas/.

We appreciate your feedback.  Please select:  UAS Safety and Integration Division AUS-400.   ???


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Are control line model airplanes required to be registered? There is great confusion in our community. The AMA (our Community Based Organization) says control line, free flight and indoor model airplanes are exempt from registration but we can find nothing in anything coming from the FAA that confirms this.

Maybe he left off they will however require transponders with MODE C.   He he, it ain't over yet.  I've flown CL at active airports and nobody cared. Best not make a problem where none exists. Leave well enough alone, keep flying and don't worry about it.  In my experience as a pilot over 40 years, the FAA are pretty darned professional and reasonable.

I've read stories on this site about the FAA "Walking up and down the ramp issuing tickets" which, any pilot will tell you, isn't how they work. It's not illegal to leave a rotting corpse of an airframe tied down on the ramp.

Take all the things that you read about them with a large grain of salt.

They're pretty good people in my first hand experience.

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Re: Good news in Canada
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2019, 02:40:47 PM »
I really hope this is true .

The final regulations aren’t official until June the first.(maybe)  Until then I’ll be sceptical about anything Transport Canada and the rest of the Federal government do on this file .

When I see it in print ....I’ll believe it.

 We were out flying the last two days. Difficult to believe a bunch of old farts flying toy airplanes on the back forty of my BeanField are a threat to western society!

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