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Title: glow igniter
Post by: Bootlegger on December 27, 2017, 03:43:28 PM

  Guy's where do you get your plug igniters?  I want something that is not made in chine, prefer U S A product.
  Where sis you get yours and how do you like it? Does it fit the plug ok as some from ch8na do not..

              Thanks
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: James Holford on December 27, 2017, 03:45:09 PM
Gil... go to Andys.. and get the Hot Shot 2.... makes the plugs glow like flares!!!

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Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Michael Palm on December 27, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
I use this one: http://rcatsystems.com/rc.php Dont have to bother about charging in the whole season.
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: mike londke on December 27, 2017, 04:02:59 PM
Buy an RCATS you'll never use anything else again in your life.
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Fredvon4 on December 27, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
As stated...the RCATS system is a bit pricey.... and I still have power panel and hand held methods...BUT RCATS it the best IMO

http://www.rcatsystems.com/store/index.php?_a=product&product_id=2

Next question will be a good tach.... wait for it.....grin
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Jim Hoffman on December 27, 2017, 05:01:42 PM
McDaniels Glow ignitor is a robust and well made unit  - my favorite. 

http://www.sonictronics.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16440&cat=0&page=1


Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: James Lee on December 27, 2017, 07:01:01 PM
What Jim Hoffman said....
The McDaniel unit will last a longtime.  and pocket size, but doesn't take a deep pocket to afford...  I wouldn't get the one with the meter...  They don't seem to work for me and I normally can't see it anyway...
Jim
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Phil Spillman on December 27, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
For the past 20+ years I have used the McDaniel's Ni Starters with excellent results. They have recently introduced a 300 ma mp hour jobby which lasts many hours of flying fun. They have a robust warranty service which is amazingly generous! You call them up explain your situation and return your used item. They replaced mine and returned it very promptly and at very favorable prices. No need to spend more and maybe get less service! Great people to deal with and they are in the USA!

Phil Spillman
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Tim Chenevert on December 27, 2017, 08:42:24 PM
What James said, Hot Shot 2. Rechargeable and last a long time on a charge. Tim
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Gary Mondry on December 27, 2017, 08:59:52 PM
+1 for the McDaniel Ni-Starter (Sonic Tronics Inc.).  Plus, they are 20% off thru 1/1/18.  Like Jim said, I wouldn't bother with the meter unless it's on a corded unit.  While it seems a good idea, mine didn't function through the first flying session.  It lights plugs fine, though.

Gary
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 27, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
I've used and liked the Dubro ignitors, simply because the battery (sub-C) can be easily replaced  at the field, or upgraded to much higher battery capacity, by unscrewing the housing and dumping out the deflated battery and installing one that's been charged. They are not "push & twist", but I like them. I've used these since the late '90's and have three. I would NOT suggest NiMH batteries...tried one. The NiMH won't hold a charge as long as NiCads, which will probably still be ok come May '18.   D>K  Steve






















































Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Bootlegger on December 28, 2017, 01:06:24 PM

  Thanks a lot fellow's, and Happy New year, and I have contacted McDanials to see what I can get there, again thanks..
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on December 28, 2017, 02:43:08 PM
I make my own from discarded Sub-C NiCd cells out of cordless drills and such tools.  When a battery pack goes bad, it is usually only one cell that prevents a proper charge.
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Gary Mondry on December 28, 2017, 04:55:23 PM
Gil,

Unfortunately, Sonic Tronics is closed until 1/2/18, at which time the 20% off offer will have ended. 

From their correspondence:

Sonic-Tronics Inc will close on Friday Dec. 22, 2017
 We will return on Tuesday Jan. 2, 2018
 
 Take Advantage of discounts up to 20% Off
 on just about everything in the store
 including our most popular products.
Sale ends when we return on Jan 02, 2018
 
 Discount will be deducted from your shopping cart automatically on eligible products.
 (All orders and questions will be processed as soon as we return.)
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: BYU on December 28, 2017, 05:49:03 PM
Gil,

Unfortunately, Sonic Tronics is closed until 1/2/18, at which time the 20% off offer will have ended. 

From their correspondence:
 
 Take Advantage of discounts up to 20% Off
 on just about everything in the store
 including our most popular products.
Sale ends when we return on Jan 02, 2018
 
 Discount will be deducted from your shopping cart automatically on eligible products.
 (All orders and questions will be processed as soon as we return.)

Sale discounts are good as long as you buy before Jan 02, 2018
They wont ship until after Jan 02, 2018.

Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Skip Chernoff on December 28, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
I've used the McDaniel/SonicTronics igniters for years. As Phil said, the new one is terrific with NiMH battery. I've not had a problem with the metered version.They are a local company for me. They make everything right there. Fine people to deal with. Funny thing is I'll be driving by their place tomorrow to get my van serviced around the corner!
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: PaulGibeault on January 05, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
  Guy's where do you get your plug igniters?  I want something that is not made in chine, prefer U S A product.
  Where sis you get yours and how do you like it? Does it fit the plug ok as some from ch8na do not..

              Thanks
THE VERY BEST PLACE IS FROM SONICTRONICS, INC.  (McDaniel Ni-Starters) GET THEIR 3800 mah units & you're set for the day! Best built, best warranty, best service, now go to there website and get on it sir! You won't regret it.

Paul (a VERY happy Ni-starter user & long time satisfied customer)

p.s this is not a paid advertisement, I just know a  GOOD COMPANY  when I deal with them is all
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Brett Buck on January 05, 2018, 01:36:25 PM
I've used the McDaniel/SonicTronics igniters for years. As Phil said, the new one is terrific with NiMH battery.

  Agreed, the new version has three important changes from the original - the clamp part is much sturdier, the battery is NiMH instead of NiCAD and much higher capacity, and probably most important, there is no longer a sliding contact for the center post. Used to, there were telescoping brass tubes, the inner with the wire from the positive terminal soldered to it, and the outer, which moves with the spring-loaded center post contact. The inner contact made a sliding contact with the outer, so the current path has got this sliding contact of relatively high resistance, and could change when it got dirty/oily/corroded, and as you shook it, sometimes losing contact entirely. The new ones have a wire connected directly to the center terminal, coiled around to take up the movement, so the resistance is effectively zero all the time and doesn't care if its dirty or shaking. That's why it glows brighter and more consistently.

    One issue - you don't want to use the old-style NiCAD charger with the new battery, you need the new charger to properly charge it. I think the old one gave about 100 mA and the new one is 300 mA ( I will check tonight). If you keep using the old one, the battery will still charge, but it will take much longer and it will never entirely charge, because at some point the 100 mA drops to nearly zero as the terminal voltage approaches the supply. The new charger drops from 300 (or whatever) to 250 or so, because the voltage of the battery never gets near the supply voltage under load.

   The failure mode of the battery is also different - when new, the battery can sit for months in your toolbox without charging and still be fine. Eventually, like it fell off a cliff, the self-discharge will go up and it won't retain a charge for more than a few days even without use. It will still work but you will have to charge it every day before use. You don't want to charge the new ones every day or before every flying session, because it will overcharge them, only charge it when it is clearly depleted. 

    Brett
Title: Re: glow igniter
Post by: Cody bishop on January 05, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
i get mine from mbs model supply its the bests always stays on fits all glow plugs