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Title: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 12, 2007, 04:15:17 PM

Anyone know anything about this plane?

Thanks
Paul H^^

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Elwyn Aud on April 12, 2007, 05:04:28 PM

The one from Phil Cartier?

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Bill Gruby on April 12, 2007, 05:16:33 PM

Paul;

   You will find it here with info including price:

             http://home.earthlink.net/~philcartier/index.html

  "Billy G"   ;D

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 12, 2007, 07:24:24 PM

Thanks guys, just wanted to know if anyone has any input on how they are to build and fly.
And maybe how well they hold up to hard unplanned landings. n~

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: catdaddy on April 12, 2007, 07:36:15 PM

Quote from: rootbeard on April 12, 2007, 07:24:24 PM

Thanks guys, just wanted to know if anyone has any input on how they are to build and fly.
And maybe how well they hold up to hard unplanned landings. n~

Email Phil he is a super nice guy and can tell you everything you need to know about it.

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Ralph Wenzel (d) on April 12, 2007, 09:01:36 PM

Quote from: rootbeard on April 12, 2007, 07:24:24 PM

Thanks guys, just wanted to know if anyone has any input on how they are to build and fly.
And maybe how well they hold up to hard unplanned landings. n~

Phil designed the Giles (740 squares!) to be competitive in P-40 Stunt, without flaps. Therefore very light weight is mandatory, and power from an OS .40FP is about right. As with any CLPA craft designed to perform well, crash survivability is practically an afterthought. It's strong enough to survive normal flight loads, maybe a rough landing; but a crash? - No  way!

Don't remember who said it, but, " . . .  in a genuine crash, the perfectly designed and built plane will break every single piece; this indicates that it wasn't "overbuilt". I think the Giles is somewhat stronger than that, but it's designed for flying, not crashing. Hm-m-m - - Need to get to work on mine, now!

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Bob Zambelli on April 13, 2007, 07:11:45 AM

I recently flew Phil's own Giles and I was really impressed with its smooth flying and turning ability.

Powered by a STOCK LA .40, it was one of the most user friendly planes I've ever flown.

No surprises, no glitches - point it where you want it to go and it just goes.

Bob Z.

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: Elwyn Aud on April 13, 2007, 02:54:36 PM

"Don't remember who said it, but, " . . .  in a genuine crash, the perfectly designed and built plane will break every single piece; this indicates that it wasn't "overbuilt". I think the Giles is somewhat stronger than that, but it's designed for flying, not crashing. Hm-m-m - - Need to get to work on mine, now!"

If you're going slow enough, maybe you run out of gas in the cloverleaf, it just breaks into several good sized chunks.

Title: Re: Giles Super Stunter???
Post by: phil c on April 13, 2007, 05:04:44 PM

Bob and Elwyn pretty well cover it.  It flies quite nicely at 45 oz. with an LA 40.  When you crash it more or less straight in, one or both wings come off and the fuse cracks one side just behind the wing.  Usually repairs aren't much more than glue a few pieces back together.  Most other planes this size splatter the fuse back the the trailing edge and destroy the center of the wing.