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Offline Steve Fitton

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Getting rid of a crashed plane
« on: September 16, 2008, 11:23:57 AM »
Following a time honored family tradition, I torched this crashed CL-3 Chipmunk that had been sitting in the attic for the last five years awaiting repair.  I finally decided I would be better off making a new Chipmunk rather than trying to fix this one...
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 11:25:18 AM »
The last few pics...
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 11:30:17 AM »
Man Steve, dont show these pictures to Jessica, then she will start crashing on purpose so she can watch the fire ball!
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 11:59:14 AM »
Hmmm, I tend to salvage mine.
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 01:49:40 PM »
Steve.
You are sick to do that. You must be a VMI graduate  >:D
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 02:25:05 PM »
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 02:26:15 PM »
Yea, seems like you could have saved something from the plane. Controls, wheels, not sure if it had a CF pushrod, canopy. Looks like the wing could ahve been saved.

Sure seems like a waste. n1
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 02:37:02 PM »
Looks like the wing could ahve been saved.

Sure seems like a waste. n1

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 07:00:33 PM »
That is awesome!  We lit one on fire and took it off!  Made half a lap then the covering was gone and it had no lift and landed and just burned away.  It was great.

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 07:35:12 PM »
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Did you remember to ask Artie first?
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2008, 07:45:33 PM »
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Did you remember to ask Artie first?
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Nah, I wouldn't have wanted to subject Artie to that plane.  It might have looked good in the pics, but the crash and then five years being baked in the attic left it in really rotten shape.  The tires were as hard as stone from being cooked, and the covering was all flakey and starting to split.
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 02:40:11 PM »
Come on Steve let's burn the Time Machine next.....It's got over 700 flights and the foam wing will really smoke...Artie won't care really he he he....Jim
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 04:11:01 PM »
Come on Steve let's burn the Time Machine next.....It's got over 700 flights and the foam wing will really smoke...Artie won't care really he he he....Jim

No way dude! No Time Machine torching!

We could torch that 850 square inch thing you've got, but the heat might unleash fatal global warming! :X >:D
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 08:39:58 AM »
Guess his city doesn't have a burning ordinance or a busy body like I have.  Had the remains of a plane that got  ruined when basement flooded.  Stripped off everything I could use and stuck a match to the remains.  Before the flames were completely out the fire department was there.  Got a warning and told next time would be a fine plus expenses.  Now they go in the dumpster if I deem them not repairable.  Otherwise I give them away if I can't sell them.  Later, DOC Holliday
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 10:51:18 AM »
If you're not gonna fix it, nor salvage the hardware, why not give it away.

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 02:14:52 PM »
I have DRAWERS full of landing gear, tanks, wheels, etc pulled from crashed planes. But when it comes time to build my new world beater, I look at that stuff and then turn a little to the right and pull new stuff out of my other drawer instead.

So... I'm with Steve on this one. For those of us with limited time to invest in a gamble on old recycled crap, I too have been known to put the remains over my knee and circular file it. Why second guess Steve's judgment? If he deemed it not worthy of passing on, that's good enough for me.

I think it would be cool to torch one in flight, better still, launch one full or lady fingers or old style M-80's.   VD~ S?P >:D

I only give flight worthy planes away these days... or ones I think would be worth some newbies effort of repair. There is so much good stuff on the market, CHEAP, these days, there are plenty of options for newbies.

C/L'ers are notoriously cheap skates, which I also think gives us a bad rap in the hobby stores. Lets not perpetuate that stereotype by crying over a little demolition fun.

So...I'm not appalled at Steve's decision, I applaud it.

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 05:37:15 PM »
I like the wingover into a garbage can approach myself , I would think the two could be combined into flaming wingover into a burn barrel.  The event would be judged of course.
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 06:34:40 PM »
I like the wingover into a garbage can approach myself , I would think the two could be combined into flaming wingover into a burn barrel.  The event would be judged of course.

I think the Moons do something like that at one of the Dallas club fun flys!
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 06:42:14 PM »

I only give flight worthy planes away these days... or ones I think would be worth some newbies effort of repair. There is so much good stuff on the market, CHEAP, these days, there are plenty of options for newbies.


EricV

EXACTLY!  I have given away several crashes and several complete ready to fly planes.  Our problem here is that our club has WAY more available models to give away then there are interested people to take them!  The stuff I give away is either flight ready or worthy of being repaired.
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 09:13:35 PM »
did not see WILLIS's foot print on the wing
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 09:29:34 PM »
That is a good one Alan.  LL~ LL~ LL~ S?P
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2008, 10:16:16 PM »
If it's broke and I don't wanna fix it, I ship it to Windy... LL~ Steve
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2008, 07:23:36 AM »
Awesome! Good one Steve. At times plane disposal does become a bit of a quandary. I've
given away plenty of planes; in flyable condition. And, I've also found many creative ways to
dispose of them:

Let's see here, how many murderous, torturous, dastardly
methods have Doug and I used to dispose of planes; let me
count the ways:
 
1. Burning: When I moved back to TX from Hawaii I brought with
me a not quite finished 40 size Moonwalker. I never got around to
finishing it. So, in the interest of FUN and due to needing space
Doug and I decided to light it on fire and see how far we could
fly it. The plane was bare wood with tape over the open bays.
We doused the plane in lighter fluid, started her up, and lit it.
Doug quickly launched the plane. It made half a lap before the stab
folded and it went smashing into the asphalt, where it proceeded
to burn in a pile of balsa and ply. It was truly funny.
 
2. Wingover into trash can: I must admit that we got the idea
from Phil Nickles, but we were the ones who actually tried it. This
is indeed a very difficult task to accomplish. At one time Doug had
a Sig Fazer (heavy and green) with an ST 46. This plane was stout.
We took it to the Gleason's annual Fish Fry and drug a big plastic
trash can out of Dale's garage. It had been raining the previous week
and the ground was saturated. Doug put that plane straight into the
ground 6, YES 6 times repeatedly burying it to the wing root trying
to hit that trash can. We'd just clean the motor out and try again.
NO luck. I had some foam wing job plane and destroyed it on the
first try; though not in the can. We took the nasty, green, heavy Sig Fazer back the next year and finally destroyed it. We also destroyed many other
planes in this fashion. Man, what FUN.
 
3. Pole flying: The North circle at Hobby Park has 4 poles around it for the
netting for jet flying. We had been talking for some time about
flying a plane into one of the poles. Well, once again needing space we
decided to give it a try. I brought out my Hughes H-1 (which I just
could never get to fly right) and Doug brought his giant fiberglass
profile thing. On the first try with the Hughes I began walking out of
the circle toward the pole with Brad and Doug lining me up (4S motor).
I began getting closer and closer until I hit the pole, but it was only
the outboard tip of the wing, which actually sheared off and the plane
kept flying. It may have even been flying better! I'm laughing my ass
off, but I'm still in the game. I make a few more laps to get lined up
again and nail the pole. The wing folded and the plane disintegrates. Good
stuff and Jake was loving it. Next up, Doug brings out the profile of
doom. This was a BIG plane. A profile with a Saito 72. After takeoff we
started getting Doug lined up, and he nails the pole on the first try, just
missing the engine and hitting the pole with the cheek cowl. The motor
acutally went flying off and was still running when it hit the ground
about 25 or so feet away. Once again laughter was heard and fun
was had by all. Heathens!
 
4. Knife edge biplane with super outboard wing: What is this you ask?
I once built a Sig Ultimate Bipe fun fly profile RC plane converted to
CL. This plane was a blast to fly. But, it outlived it's usefulness, and
in this cruel world that means only one thing: death at the flying circle!
What I decided to do was take the top wing off (the wings screwed onto
cabane struts) and mount it to the cabane strut mount sticking out of
the bottom outboard wing. I now had a plane with a 21" inboard span
and an approx. 36" outboard span. Truly funny. Doug launched for me
and the plane immediately went into a knife edge. I'm serious, a total
RC style knife edge. The plane would fly like this, but naturally would
start to come in on me. My first reaction was to give it up; BIG mistake
as the elevator is now causing the plane to fly in on me even more. So, I
give it down and it starts to go back out. Back and forth, back and forth
I went. Of course, I am once again laughing my ass off and can barely
stand up. After 5 dizzying laps of this laughing and flying I finally piled
it in and fell to the ground laughing. It was truly spectacular. Our buddy
John Grigsby witnessed this spectacle, and to this day none of his
RC buddies believe his CL knife-edge flying story. Once again, good
fun was the order of the day.
 
No wonder we're known as the Beavis & Butt-Head of stunt.

Please notice that in every instance we had FUN. Fun is why we started
doing all this in the first place. If you can't see the simple, good-natured fun
in all of this, well.....come on.
 
Later, Steve

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2008, 10:22:34 AM »
Great stories Steve!   H^^

I’ve heard a story of guys tying Treble hooks to the “trash bin” candidate planes and having a wrecking day.  There’d be two or more guys up, flying at the same time, beating the crap out of their planes.  Kind of like an Aerial Demolition Derby. 

Is anybody here guilty of this fun?
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2008, 10:30:47 AM »
I only burn something when it gets too oil soaked to repair. It burns better that way anyway.

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2008, 11:39:52 AM »
New event? Demolition Derby??!!! :! :! :! #^ #^ #^

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2008, 10:58:40 AM »
HI Steve,

The Father of a certain WC Junior that we both know trash canned the remains of his Classic winning Oriental after said Junior WC son crashed it.  A guy I know got it out of the can and my friend told him I would be GLAD to repair it for him!  Broken motor mount inthe engine compartment, split and hlaf missing. 

Now I have a really good spare set of Tom Morris controls for an Oriental, and my trash can got a bit heavier......

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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2008, 12:00:04 PM »
Years ago, notice how only old folks say that?; I trash caned a novi 4 out of a wing over barely got the fuselage inside the barrel. picked the engine and tank out and left the rest.In an entirely different vein although with the same result s at the end of the season with an entirely fuel soaked freeflight , would load it with about 3 to4 oz. of black powder and install the De therm fuse into the powder crank it up launch it and wait on the flames.
BTW managed to set the field on fire several times.AH the things we did as youngesters.
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Re: Getting rid of a crashed plane
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 09:53:20 AM »
We lived on the edge of town growing up.  More country than city.  Us kids used to lay in a ditch with our BB guns and try to shoot down the .049 planes one of use would use to "strafe" the kids in the ditch.  We even scored a few hits in the Lil' Satan we generally used as the strafer.  Never did any damage masking tape couldn't fix.

But, I really always wanted to do this using a bigger plane and a 12-gauge.   Not so much the strafing, but the shooting...........  Rick had better be keeping one eye on the bushes next time he takes to the air.


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