Getting nostalgic. Anybody got one of these?

[Ted Fancher]

I've been sitting here in my den looking at old airplanes on the wall and a handful of pictures I've framed and hung.  One of those is of my Intimidation that won the Concours in 1981 along with the, by then regular, Arlie Preszler carved prop.  While doing so I was reminded once again that I haven't a picture of my "Citation" that won the first ever Nats Concours in 1977.  That first year, interestingly, was the only  that the award wasn't a carved prop (or maybe one of two years; I think Windy provided one one year when Arlie wasn't able to do so).  That first award was a silver plated, engraved ice bucket/wine chiller.

I would dearly love to have a picture of the airplane with the trophy.  It was the second of my more or less similar red, white and blue paint jobs and the airplane was "jet styled" with a forward canopy, raked rudder and a cowl the shape for which was stolen from Bobby' Who's Genesis.

The one picture I remember of the airplane and the trophy was a Sig Ad which was published shortly after the Nats in American Aircraft Modeler.  It was a good sized picture and in color.  If anyone has a collection that includes those magazines back that far I'd really appreciate a scanned image that I could print up to hang on the wall along with the 1981 picture.  An actual picture of the two would be even better if anyone collects that stuff.

Thanx in advance to anyone who can help me out.

Ted Fancher

[Dan McEntee]

   Hi Ted;
     Your picture with the concours trophy is in Wynn Paul's column in the November Nats issue of Model Aviation. American Aircraft Modeler went out of production in early 1975 and was replaced with AMA menbership later that year with Model Aviation as we know it now. I check the SIG adds all through 1978 in both Model Aviation and Flying Models and didn't see the phot that you refer to. Some young punk kids named Fitzgerald seems to have hogged a lot of press space at that time with his Chipmunk. Must have edged you out!!! But seriously folks, if we can nail down the date of the add, I'm sure I'll have it. I haven't checked Model Airplane News yet, and they still had C/L coverage at that time and the SIG add was different in the other two mags, and may have been in M.A.N. I have tools scattered all over my garage from a motocycle project I'm working on, (1977 Penton 400 MC-5 that I'm converting to a GS model) and tonight or tomorrow I'll look some more. You do have access to Model Aviation through the AMA website in the Members Only section. They have scans of M.A. from the first issue up through 2000, I believe and may have updated more recent issues. If we can figure out the exact issue, I'll get it for you Ted.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
 Florissant, MO

[wwwarbird]

 Holy cow Dan, you're turning into a Trostle of information!

[Ted Fancher]

   Hi Ted;
     Your picture with the concours trophy is in Wynn Paul's column in the November Nats issue of Model Aviation. American Aircraft Modeler went out of production in early 1975 and was replaced with AMA menbership later that year with Model Aviation as we know it now. I check the SIG adds all through 1978 in both Model Aviation and Flying Models and didn't see the phot that you refer to. Some young punk kids named Fitzgerald seems to have hogged a lot of press space at that time with his Chipmunk. Must have edged you out!!! But seriously folks, if we can nail down the date of the add, I'm sure I'll have it. I haven't checked Model Airplane News yet, and they still had C/L coverage at that time and the SIG add was different in the other two mags, and may have been in M.A.N. I have tools scattered all over my garage from a motocycle project I'm working on, (1977 Penton 400 MC-5 that I'm converting to a GS model) and tonight or tomorrow I'll look some more. You do have access to Model Aviation through the AMA website in the Members Only section. They have scans of M.A. from the first issue up through 2000, I believe and may have updated more recent issues. If we can figure out the exact issue, I'll get it for you Ted.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
 Florissant, MO

Dan,

Thanks for the help.  I knew that the mag changed names about three times over the years.  Wasn't sure which one it was in '77.  I was almost positive one of the mags had a Sig ad with it as the concours was kind of unique and the ship was painted with Sig dope.  Oh, well.  They say the memory is the first thing to go.  If there is a decent picture in Wynn's columg from back then I'd like to have a copy of that if it can be scanned.

Thanks again for checking for me.

TEd

[Dan McEntee]

Holy cow Dan, you're turning into a Trostle of information!

    I can only cower and bow to the great Kieth Trostle !!! HE can come up with stuff while I'm still trying to figure out which shelf or file cabinet I should look in first! If I live to be a ripe old age I doubt I will ever be as organized as his library. My next trip out to Tucson, I have to get a look at his library and files for ides. Didn't think to do that last time. Maybe Mike Gretz might have an idea on which mag it was in.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

[Marvin Denny]

  I came up with the same thing that Dan did, so I will review the MAN and FM mags today ---IF I get time to do such time consuming research --- what with having to watch the Dallas Cowboys play ---fumbleball--- er--- foolishball-- er---whatever.

  Bigiron

[Bruce Perry]

http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=13312.0

in this it says nov 77 model aviation has a pic....

[Chris McMillin]

Dan,
Are you planning on VSC this next year?
Chris...

[Brett Buck]

The one picture I remember of the airplane and the trophy was a Sig Ad which was published shortly after the Nats in American Aircraft Modeler.  It was a good sized picture and in color. 

   I don't know if this will help or hurt, but I am pretty sure it wasn't in AAM - I think the last issue of AAM was in 1975 sometime. Model Aviation was its successor.

    Brett

[Randy Powell]

I remember seeing a ton of pictures of that plane. Studied them a lot. I probably still have the magazines. I'll look too.

[Sean McEntee]

Dan,
Are you planning on VSC this next year?
Chris...

      He should....hes got a place to stay, though its about an hour drive from the field

[Randy Powell]

Found a bunch of black and white pics, but I know there is a color one somewhere.

[Chris McMillin]

      He should....hes got a place to stay, though its about an hour drive from the field

How about you, Sean. Got a model built?
Chris...

[Ted Fancher]

    I can only cower and bow to the great Kieth Trostle !!! HE can come up with stuff while I'm still trying to figure out which shelf or file cabinet I should look in first! If I live to be a ripe old age I doubt I will ever be as organized as his library. My next trip out to Tucson, I have to get a look at his library and files for ides. Didn't think to do that last time. Maybe Mike Gretz might have an idea on which mag it was in.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

Dan,

You've sure got that right.  You could spend weeks in Keith's den and never get bored.  I think the only guy that might have as much and possibly a touch more would be Wynn Paul who has been promising to publish an amazingly complete history of stunt for a long time now.  Slightly different from Keith's mammoth collection of everything ever published about stunt.  Wynn's will be largely original text and include lots of data on who won what when and what they used to do it.  Hope I live long enough to see it.

And, although I'll get excoriated for saying this outside of a dedicated BOM Boxing Arena, the fact there is an anxious following/market for collections and publications such as these simply proves to me once again that it isn't the flying that keeps us in this game for a lifetime.  It's the artistry and craftsmanship exhibited by so many talented and friendly people...a lot of whom can also fly purty good.

Ted