Author Topic: Getting back into flying after 22 year layoff!! (Read 4645 times)

Michael Graves · « **on:** June 02, 2012, 04:46:33 PM »

Hello everyone! I am trying to get back into CL stunt after a 22 year layoff. (Got married had some kids, you know the story) I used to fly a couple times a week back in the 80's. Unfortunatly I no longer have any of my tools for building anymore, BUT I hear there are some really good ARF's out there. I am looking for something that I wont get bored with after I "Knock the rust off" But I also dont want to spend a fortune either. Something in a 40 size I think? What do you guys think? Im in southern Cal right by a beautiful permanent RC airport and control line field called Whittier Narrows. So if anyone out there has something they want to part with to get me back in the air please let me know.
Thanks guys!!!!
Mike

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2012, 04:54:35 PM »

I can't suggest a plane, because I'm still at the "information receiving" stage. But -- do you know about Brodak?

http://www.brodak.com/

Everything control line...

Michael Graves · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2012, 05:03:33 PM »

Im hoping to find one that is ready to go that someone is selling to thin his heard if possible. Im in the southern cal area.....

Leester · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2012, 05:16:10 PM »

Hi Michael Welcome to SH. I'm sure someone close will chime in soon and help out. Good Luck

peabody · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2012, 05:23:07 PM »

Hi Michael....
Join PAMPA....lots of great information, and a really good membership directory!

http://www.control-line.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=1

Have fun!

Michael Graves · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2012, 05:23:36 PM »

Thanks Lee!! you were a great help earlier Thanks for being strait up with me!!
Mike

Randy Powell · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:07:22 PM »

And welcome. You can always come here to ask questions.

ChrisSarnowski · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:22:03 PM »

You probably won't go too wrong with a Brodak profile Pathfinder or P-40B.
OS LA 46 would go fine with that ( LA 40 or FP 40 probably too).

Thinking profile in case something funny happens and you need to make a new fuselage.

What do you guys think of that idea?

-Chris

Michael Graves · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:49:57 PM »

What about the Brodak Cardinal ARF or ARC? Thoughts?

ChrisSarnowski · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:59:52 PM »

The Cardinal is a good idea too. The ARF's were out of stock when I checked the web site but they ARC is available.

In my opinion you will want a 45 class power (OS LA 46) on the Cardinal not 40.

-Chris

Gene O'Keefe · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:31:33 PM »

I'm with Chris on the ARC Cardinal with La .46 ( or a ST .46 )

Walter Hicks · « **Reply #11 on:** June 02, 2012, 10:20:05 PM »

Michael there are two excellent clubs in So Cal. Circle Burners and Knights of the Round Circle. I am sure they can hook you up. There is a contest her shortly, Dale Kirn Knights Joust make sure to come to that we will all be there. I am in Central Ca but come to the So Ca contests. Great bunch of people.

Norm Faith Jr. · « **Reply #12 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:41:46 PM »

Quote from: Michael Graves on June 02, 2012, 04:46:33 PM

Hello everyone! I am trying to get back into CL stunt after a 22 year layoff. (Got married had some kids, you know the story) I used to fly a couple times a week back in the 80's. Unfortunatly I no longer have any of my tools for building anymore, BUT I hear there are some really good ARF's out there. I am looking for something that I wont get bored with after I "Knock the rust off" But I also dont want to spend a fortune either. Something in a 40 size I think? What do you guys think? Im in southern Cal right by a beautiful permanent RC airport and control line field called Whittier Narrows. So if anyone out there has something they want to part with to get me back in the air please let me know.
Thanks guys!!!!
Mike

Hi Michael...This just might be what you are looking for...I've never flown one, but haven't heard many negative comments about it. I've seen several and they look as good as any ARF I've seen. I'm not endorsing or advertising a product, guys...Just trying to help a "way-ward contoliner."

Norm
http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HAN0115

john e. holliday · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2012, 06:55:59 AM »

As stated earlier, you live near one of the nationally known sites. Check with the people that are flying there. I would imagine someone will have something just collecting dust. I myself just last weekend in Topeka gave away a Shameless in need of tender loving rebuild and a ARF Oriental that needs flying. So good luck on your search for a plane.

Bryan Higgins · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2012, 12:33:00 PM »

Welcome Michael

You will get alot of help and friendship here on Stunthanger. Just by joining you will get a chance at a free control line kit.
There are plenty of members that will help you awnser your questions. Glad to have you back Bryan

Michael Graves · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2012, 12:46:42 PM »

Thanks guys!! this site is awsome! I was digging throught the rafters in my garage last night hopeing to find some of my old stuff, and to my delight hidding in the corner was one of my old profiles just sitting there!! Its been there 12 years (That is when we bought this house) I musty have put it there during the move and forgot about it. I dont even remember what it is. it has a old FOX 35 on her. I have pics but I do not know how to upload them. If I can get them on hear maybe someone will recognize what plane it is.

Paul Taylor · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2012, 01:54:58 PM »

Mike
Sounds like you are real close to a bunch of control line pilots.
If you subscribe to control line world there is a good artical on building a F/A Twister. It is a quick building plane that will get you going quick. Build it light and that Fox 35 will haul it.

Posting pictures is even easier. Click on additional options in a post and browse to you photo. Picture has to be under 1mb.

And welcome back and also glad you found us here at the Hangar.

Leester · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2012, 02:01:51 PM »

Michael, to post pictures at the bottom left of your message area you type in you'll see "Additional Options" click on that... were it says "Attach" to the right of that you'll see "Browse" in a little box. Click on that and it should take you to your computers folders go to were your pictures are when you find the one you want click on open and it should Attach. Then click on post. piece of cake

Brian Massey · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2012, 02:08:08 PM »

Welcome back Mike! I flew at Whittier Narrows back in the 60's till about 72 when my kids had me going in different directions. 36 years later I got back into it and am having a ball. Moved to the Central CA area back in '92 so haven't flown the Narrows since.

When you're ready to upgrade the Fox, I heartly recommend going to an OS LA 46. Inexpensive (as motors go), reliable and dang good! You should be able to pick up lots of flying/info buddies at the Narrows and Sepulveda Basin.

Brian

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2012, 02:08:58 PM »

Quote from: Michael Graves on June 02, 2012, 04:46:33 PM

Hello everyone! I am trying to get back into CL stunt after a 22 year layoff. (Got married had some kids, you know the story) I used to fly a couple times a week back in the 80's. Unfortunatly I no longer have any of my tools for building anymore, BUT I hear there are some really good ARF's out there. I am looking for something that I wont get bored with after I "Knock the rust off" But I also dont want to spend a fortune either. Something in a 40 size I think? What do you guys think? Im in southern Cal right by a beautiful permanent RC airport and control line field called Whittier Narrows. So if anyone out there has something they want to part with to get me back in the air please let me know.
Thanks guys!!!!
Mike

Whatever you do, GET OUT TO THE WHITTIER NARROWS FIELD NEXT WEEKEND !!!
You are going to meet the greatest folks on the planet.
Make sure you look up Warren Walker, Dennis Coleman, "Good" Larry Renger, Dave Sabon, Eric Rule and Kirk Mullenix. Hell, introduce yourself to everybody there. They are going to be thrilled to meet you. Tell them all that "Evil" Larry says hello!! (Since I wont be able to make it). And tell Antone Kephart to...
awe never mind, I'll tell him myself. Have fun and welcome back!!!

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Bill Barber · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2012, 03:40:58 PM »

Micheal do make the CL contest at Whittier Narrows next weekend June 9th & 10th . There will
be CL stunt , scale and carrier events . If you can make it you will meet a lot of helpful people
who would be glad to answer your questions . Here is a link to the contest flyer ;

   http://www.kotrc.org/events/flyers/joustflyer2012.pdf

   I plan to enter on Sunday , hope to see you there .
   Bill Barber

Gerald Arana · « **Reply #21 on:** June 03, 2012, 04:19:03 PM »

Quote from: Michael Graves on June 02, 2012, 04:46:33 PM

Hello everyone! I am trying to get back into CL stunt after a 22 year layoff. (Got married had some kids, you know the story) I used to fly a couple times a week back in the 80's. Unfortunatly I no longer have any of my tools for building anymore, BUT I hear there are some really good ARF's out there. I am looking for something that I wont get bored with after I "Knock the rust off" But I also dont want to spend a fortune either. Something in a 40 size I think? What do you guys think? Im in southern Cal right by a beautiful permanent RC airport and control line field called Whittier Narrows. So if anyone out there has something they want to part with to get me back in the air please let me know.
Thanks guys!!!!
Mike

Hey Michael; I strongly suggest an ARF Vector with an OS LA 46. I have the ARC version (modified to open canopy) and it flies great. It will take you all the way to "Expert" if you should want to go that route.

Listen to Larry. He's the president of our "Circle Jerk" club! And a damn nice guy to!

Jerry

Michael Graves · « **Reply #22 on:** June 03, 2012, 04:40:57 PM »

WOW!!!! I will be there on Sat. I would go both days but I have to work Sunday Will there be stuff for sale out there???

Bill Barber · « **Reply #23 on:** June 03, 2012, 04:53:54 PM »

Yes there is always stuff for sale , kits, tools, used planes , etc.
Bill

Leester · « **Reply #24 on:** June 03, 2012, 05:20:41 PM »

Michael, here's more temptations www.rsmdistribution.com one of the post said Eric Rule would probobly be at the contest, he owns RSM.

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #25 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:03:46 PM »

Quote from: Gerald Arana on June 03, 2012, 04:19:03 PM

Hey Michael; I strongly suggest an ARF Vector with an OS LA 46. I have the ARC version (modified to open canopy) and it flies great. It will take you all the way to "Expert" if you should want to go that route.

Listen to Larry. He's the president of our "Circle Jerk" club! And a damn nice guy to!

Jerry

Who the hell elected me president?

?
And thats "South Bay Circle Jerks" to you

Oh lord, the company that I keep. (He says with head bowed in shame)

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

john e. holliday · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2012, 06:45:42 AM »

Larry, didn't Mom always tell you to watch out for the friends you keep?

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2012, 08:48:41 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on June 04, 2012, 06:45:42 AM

Larry, didn't Mom always tell you to watch out for the friends you keep?

To know them is to love them.
Best bunch of flying buddies, ever.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Terrence Durrill · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2012, 10:01:07 AM »

Michael,

You can't go wrong (as a weekend fun flier) with an S-1 Ringmaster and a Fox .35.stunt engine....10/6 prop......4 oz tank....I have spoken.

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2012, 12:16:35 PM »

Quote from: Terrence Durrill on June 04, 2012, 10:01:07 AM

Michael,

You can't go wrong (as a weekend fun flier) with an S-1 Ringmaster and a Fox .35.stunt engine....10/6 prop......4 oz tank....and the dreaded burp on the outside maneuvers.,

(I know, I know , Fox .35 's don't burp on outside maneuvers. I know)

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Terrence Durrill · « **Reply #30 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:40:46 PM »

Larry,

I have been flying S-1 Ringmasters with Fox .35 stunt engines/4 ounce Perfect tank and 10/6 Top Flite (paddle design) prop since 1955. I currently have 28 Fox .35 stunt engines in my engine collection (almost every variation from sandcast to the 50th anniversary model) and have always had at least one or more of this combination ready to fly (1955-2012). Yes, I have seen the burp on the outside maneuvers on occasion but has been a rare experience and has never been a problem for me. I still recommend this old, but proven combination for the weekend fun flier, especially after a few years out of the hobby. This combination is a real classic.

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #31 on:** June 04, 2012, 05:24:22 PM »

Quote from: Terrence Durrill on June 04, 2012, 01:40:46 PM

Larry,

I have been flying S-1 Ringmasters with Fox .35 stunt engines/4 ounce Perfect tank and 10/6 Top Flite (paddle design) prop since 1955. This combination is a real classic.

I'd go with a Sig Skyray with an FP.20. The combination may not be a real classic, but it sure as hell flies better

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Terrence Durrill · « **Reply #32 on:** June 04, 2012, 06:06:24 PM »

Quote from: Larry Fernandez on June 04, 2012, 05:24:22 PM

I'd go with a Sig Skyray with an FP.20. The combination may not be a real classic, but it sure as hell flies better

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Larry, thanks for the advice.
I am building a box stock Skyray 35 now, as we speak. It will be powered by an FP20. If I ever get it finished and tested, I will let you know how it performs.

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #33 on:** June 05, 2012, 01:31:41 AM »

Quote from: Terrence Durrill on June 04, 2012, 06:06:24 PM

Terrence
I can tell you right now, its gonna perform great. Make sure you run the FP with an APC 9x4 prop.
Most will not agree with me but mine flew better with .012 lines, 58 feet as I recall.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Michael Graves · « **Reply #34 on:** June 05, 2012, 08:11:34 AM »

Well here is my "attic" jem I built in about '87. I forgot it was even up there. After a good cleaning she is ready for the flight line once again......

Larry Fernandez · « **Reply #35 on:** June 08, 2012, 11:39:19 AM »

Micheal,
Make sure you get out to Whittier Narrows this weekend.
You'll thank me later.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Bill Little · « **Reply #36 on:** June 08, 2012, 11:53:43 AM »

Quote from: Michael Graves on June 05, 2012, 08:11:34 AM

Well here is my "attic" jem I built in about '87. I forgot it was even up there. After a good cleaning she is ready for the flight line once again......

HI Michael,

Do give it a pull test before that first flight, ok?

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Michael Graves · « **Reply #37 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:26:21 PM »

Bill you are right, That will be the first thing I check

Author Topic: Getting back into flying after 22 year layoff!! (Read 4645 times)

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