GENESIS PLANS.

[Claudio Chacon]

Good morning guys!
A friend of mine (he is not a forum member) is looking for the original GENESIS plans in .pdf  or any other vectorial format.

Is there anybody selling them?

Thanks!
Claudio.

[pmackenzie]

There is a pdf on aerofred.
 Not vector format however, so you will have to trace it in cad.

[Claudio Chacon]

There is a pdf on aerofred.
 Not vector format however, so you will have to trace it in cad.

Thanks Pat...although I couldn't find them using the search tool.

I sent a message to Bob Hunt...sure he can help.

Thanks again,
Claudio.

[pmackenzie]

Here is a link:
https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=97959

[EddyR]

 I guess I am old school as i could build it from that small three view. Did many over the years with nothing more than that.
Ed

[Tim Wescott]

Those Aerofred plans don't look like the 1976 Genesis.  Claudio -- which one exactly are you looking for?

If you can stand to be old school, Flying Models has paper plans for $16.00.  I have no idea how quick their turnaround is these days, though.  https://store.flying-models.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=243

[john e. holliday]

Just looked and Flying Models Plans Service show the plans  under the stunt listing.

[EddyR]

 It is the original .35 size model. I believe it came about two years before the .46 size model
Ed

[peabody]

O wager Bob Hunt has all of the plans for his designs. He can also help you figure which iteration you wish.

[Claudio Chacon]

Those Aerofred plans don't look like the 1976 Genesis.  Claudio -- which one exactly are you looking for?

If you can stand to be old school, Flying Models has paper plans for $16.00.  I have no idea how quick their turnaround is these days, though.  https://store.flying-models.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=243

Hi Tim,

We are looking for the "GENESIS EXTREME" plans, which I think is the last version of this plane.

I could not get Bob's reply yet...and I see that "Robin's View Productions" is not listed in the vendors corner any more...

Thanks for your input, Tim!

Later,
Claudio.

[Claudio Chacon]

I guess I am old school as i could build it from that small three view. Did many over the years with nothing more than that.
Ed

I am too! (I'm 65 now...) I used to draft my own plans...but in this case
I'm not building the Genesis...a handle pal from other province will..I'm just trrying to get the plan set for him.

Claudio.

[Bob Hunt]

Hi Claudio:

I tried to send you a PM, but for some reason I'm blocked now from doing that. Perhaps just a system glitch...?

Anyhow, I do have the plans for the Genesis Extreme. Try to send me a PM and then we can communicate further (hopefully).

Thanks - Bob Hunt

[Dan McEntee]

Hi Claudio:

I tried to send you a PM, but for some reason I'm blocked now from doing that. Perhaps just a system glitch...?

Anyhow, I do have the plans for the Genesis Extreme. Try to send me a PM and then we can communicate further (hopefully).

Thanks - Bob Hunt

   If glitches persist, I can relay any messages. I show  that I can message both of you.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

[Claudio Chacon]

Hi Claudio:

I tried to send you a PM, but for some reason I'm blocked now from doing that. Perhaps just a system glitch...?

Anyhow, I do have the plans for the Genesis Extreme. Try to send me a PM and then we can communicate further (hopefully).

Thanks - Bob Hunt

Hi Bob!
Great! Please, try with this address for sending me a PM:

claudiocch@gmail.com

"See" you soon!
Thanks a lot,
Claudio.

[Claudio Chacon]

Thanks guys for your help!

Bob PM'ed me...I'm in touch with him now!

Regards, 
Claudio.

[Mike Ferguson]

Those Aerofred plans don't look like the 1976 Genesis.  Claudio -- which one exactly are you looking for?

If you can stand to be old school, Flying Models has paper plans for $16.00.  I have no idea how quick their turnaround is these days, though.  https://store.flying-models.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=243

Pretty quick! I ordered plans from them at the beginning of the week and had them in hand on Friday.

[Air Ministry .]

If its ' not on paper ' his Next Plane used the same wings - swept flap line ) etc . So THEY ARE on paper ! ! ( if ive got this right )
So it is still straightforward Do Able . Ask him about that , if youre stuck .

[Bob Hunt]

Claudio has the Genesis Extreme plans now.

Just for clarification, the Genesis is/was more of an aesthetic than an actual airplane design. There have been at least nine different sets of "numbers" onto which the Genesis aesthetic has been stretched. I think of an airplane as a "mannequin" of numbers. Just like a mannequin in a store window onto which different clothing can be draped to achieve a certain appearance, a model can also be looked at as a sort of mannequin. You can drape that mannequin of numbers with a WWII fighter look, a jet look, a racer look, etc.

Genesis 1 through 7 had straight trailing edge wings (no forward taper). The 1980 Genesis had 1 7/16-inch per panel sweep forward. Years later I took that particular mannequin of numbers and added a fin to create the first Crossfire. Even the modern Crossfire designs have had the swept forward hinge line, although the nose and tail lengths have been played with a bit. I have a brand new Genesis that has the same wing as the 1980 ship, but with an inline motor and wing. I like the way the swept forward hinge line wing works in the wind, so I've pretty much settled on using that feature from now on in my designs. I have reduced the amount of forward sweep from 1 7/16-inch to 3/4 to 1-inch of late.

The Genesis Extreme was an experiment to try much smaller than normal flaps, and it featured a straight hinge line. It was built in 2001, and is still flying great and is one of my all time favorites. I just might try that basic wing design with a bit of forward sweep just to see if it gets even better...

Now that I'm retired, I have a lot of time to design, build, and write. I'm working a bit everyday on my Genesis Saga book, which chronicles all the Genesis variants, and the adventures had flying them all over the world when I was younger. I'l certainly announce here when that book is finished and available. It is currently close to 100,000 words in length!