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Title: Genesis LC (Last Chapter) in paint shop...
Post by: Bob Hunt on June 11, 2022, 06:30:14 AM
How would you like to be my Fine Line tape salesman these days? I have two ships in the paint shop. In a previous thread I gave a sneak peek at my new twin, the Turning Point, and here's a peek at my latest (and probably last - although there may be a twin Genesis in the future...) Genesis. All that remains are the letters and numbers, and they will go on today, and then clear.

I've always wanted to build a Genesis with twin rudders. Joe Perovich (a very close friend of the family) recently passed away. Joe saw a drawing I did of a Genesis with twin rudders and he wanted to build one. He built a wing for the Genesis Extreme variant and was ready to start construction on the fuselage and tail when life took a tragic turn for him. So, this one is in memory of Joe Perovich, and is a tribute to his amazing spirit. He was a very talented and motivated young man who left us way too soon...

Later - Bob

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Post by: jfv on June 11, 2022, 07:11:22 AM
Nicely done as usual.
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Post by: kenneth cook on June 11, 2022, 09:03:46 AM
              Bob, it's sad to hear of Joe's passing. I know a couple of times he came to visit us flying and he brought his gigantic dog. He was indeed a character. Ken
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Post by: Matt Colan on June 11, 2022, 10:55:30 AM
Looks great Bob! I notice some wing fences on the leading edge of the wing of that plane
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Post by: Frank Imbriaco on June 11, 2022, 11:24:33 AM
Looks great, Bob !
I now remember Joe. Sad news. Much too young to pass.
If I'm not mistaken, he visited Solberg Airport with you and Robbie just a few years ago.
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Post by: Dick Pacini on June 16, 2022, 06:31:02 AM
Good looking plane, Bob.  Haven't run out of that paint yet?  How are you doing with your back problems?
Title: Re: Genesis LC (Last Chapter) in paint shop...
Post by: Paul Taylor on June 16, 2022, 07:57:17 AM
Looking good Bob.

This one looked kewl to. 👍🏼

Title: Re: Genesis LC (Last Chapter) in paint shop...
Post by: Charles Carter on June 24, 2022, 04:32:14 PM
Wow Bob! looks beautiful. 

Charles Carter
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Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 24, 2022, 05:45:54 PM
This one mounts a BadAss 3515-710 KV motor, a Jeti Spin 66 ESC and a Fiorotti timer system.

I cant wait to see what the Genesis LC II looks like. LL~  Love your power train.  Glad to see the Fiorotti is still your choice.   Why the longer nose?  I ask because I have added 1" to my last two.  First one flies better but that could be a host of things, second one is still in dry dock.

Ken
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Post by: Frank Imbriaco on June 24, 2022, 06:27:25 PM
That ship is frightening in person !!
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Post by: Motorman on June 24, 2022, 06:38:24 PM
You should recreate that Flying Models cover photo with your latest Genesis if you still have those trophies and a pair of white pants. 

Motorman 8)
Title: Re: Genesis LC (Last Chapter) in paint shop...
Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 24, 2022, 06:54:10 PM
You should recreate that Flying Models cover photo with your latest Genesis if you still have those trophies and a pair of white pants. 

Motorman 8)
What about the hair? LL~

Ken
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Post by: M Spencer on June 25, 2022, 09:42:37 PM
Far Out . Nice picture . Winter here , wanna swap ! .

One of Jose's mates , they put the prop forward a few inches , went from 9 to 11 or suchlike on the Impact master tweener E
They thought it helped it no end . Ide think tangentaly it dosnt resist turns , but the thrust moment pulls the ship straight for
smooth exits , without the bobble or baulk into turns .

A case of opposites being feasable . The Typhoon with no nose ( 8 in to prop ) the lower moment to the WEIGHT of the 18 Oz Engine
has it light controlled & very smooth , & tight in squares .

Tho ' uver ' with the  L o n g moment , tracks on course in manouvres , deliberate fine ' corrections ' to defy wind distortions easily accomplished .

Think the swept hinge biases ' centering ' = Keeps the nose straight = lessens yaw from crosswinds - varying windspeed gusts .
also id think , the more it blows the more effective they are . which near the ground , counts .

Nice plane there .  H^^
Title: Re: Genesis LC (Last Chapter) in paint shop...
Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 26, 2022, 02:17:28 PM
G'day AM:
Later - Bob
Do you use a split horn?  I assume you do.  How do you compensate for the change in the angle of the pushrod?

Ken
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Post by: Crist Rigotti on June 27, 2022, 06:40:01 AM
Great story!
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Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 27, 2022, 09:48:07 AM
Hi Ken:

I do not use a split horn, and neither does Billy, even on his models that have 2 1/2 inches of forward TE sweep per panel. I did use the split horns on the 1980 Genesis and it caused me so much grief that I almost missed the 1980 World Championships.
Later- Bob
Loved the story.  I only asked because I have had several tapered TE wings, all on profiles and I never used a split horn.  I just assumed that with a full body you would.  The more I read about the tapered wings the more I wonder why everybody is not doing it.

Ken

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Post by: Bruce Shipp on June 27, 2022, 10:04:50 AM
I remember someone of reputation said on this board or in an article/column “if you ever see me building another airplane with a swept forward flap hinge line,  break my building arm” or something to that effect. I remember because it made me chuckle 🤭.  I am hesitant to name names ‘cause I could be wrong…but I seem to remember either Ted F or Paul W.

What I take from this is that either can be made to work well, obviously.  There is an propensity in stunt ship design to incorporate a major change into an existing design and when it doesn’t fly as expected, other changes or construction variances between the two planes are overlooked as a possible cause. 

That’s what I’ve always liked about stunt.  So many ways to solve the problems.